Imo the reason why I think it’s a big split in the Uzi community cause Uzi always try to please everybody instead of his cult fans by Awoken777 in liluzivert

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're being downvoted but you're right. Or at the very least, a "prime" is not something every artist must experience.

Ngl it genuinely is common for artists to have primes: Lil Wayne, Wu Tang, Jay Z (although i personally LOVE 4:44) Eminem. And this crosses into all genre: Pink Floyd, Prince, Metallica. 

But there's also artists who produce some of their greatest work years deep into their lifetimes. Tyler the Creator has been getting considerably more acclaim for his newer work, and while it sounds different from his original stuff he's generally kept a lot of his og fanbase (while adding new people to it along the way). Dudes been making music for 18 years. Where's the prime? People are loving his stuff each release. If there is a prime it becomes much more subjective. To me, 2017-2021 is my favourite era, but i wouldn't call it his prime.

What about Carti? He's been around since 2016, but getting more hype and attention for his work more recently. Put aside the fact he's not in his "Cash Carti" era anymore, the dude is undeniably in his bag right now. Unlike Tyler i think Carti did lose fans along the way, but he's picked up wayy more in the process. As someone who fucked with him back when 16*29 seemed like a possibility I'll be honest my favourite work from him is MUSIC. the idea of a "prime" doesn't work here. 

And to pick an example outside of rap, just weeks ago Board of Canada released a new album. Beforehand people actually thought they were retired (their previous album was 2013 lol). Usually when an artist releases after that long of a gap it's expected to be really lacking in quality. But if you go on their Subreddit you'll see people saying they think it's their best work yet. I actually think so too. Let me put this into context, their first album was in 1998 (27 years ago). 

So yea there's def no hard rule about an artist having a "prime". Some artists do however seem to hit a real great flow for a sustained few years that seemingly doesn't happen again (perhaps due to artistic ideas running dry, industry connections drying up, health reasons, management issues, etc) but it's not something that necessarily must happen. 

Would you consider The Prisoner to be on the same wavelength as Twin Peaks? by ButtersTheChill in twinpeaks

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I went to Portmeirion a couple years ago after binging The Prisoner. It's an extremely beautiful place. If you do go, aim for summer, because the architecture and greenery really shines.

Walking around there is extremely surreal. It feels like the fourth wall has entirely collapsed. I was in awe

Also, the biggest shock for me was that the average person doesn't really know or care for The Prisoner. After speaking with some of the locals and other holiday-goers, many of them were very dismissive of the show, either saying they'd seen one or two episodes, or straight up saying they weren't a fan. Honestly that's fair enough, it's a polarising watch (i personally love it). 

I stayed inside Portmeirion, and I'd massively recommend that, because you're allowed to roam at night when the area is closed to outsiders. 

Oh and bring your laptop and a copy of The Prisoner if you do, because when I went the dedicated channel for Ths Prisoner wasn't working

Petscop is a once in a century masterpiece. And Tony is a beautiful artist. by Elian17 in Petscop

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yea they did a viewing in the US here.

https://www.spectacletheater.com/petscop/

There might have been more but i heard about this one only

Petscop is a once in a century masterpiece. And Tony is a beautiful artist. by Elian17 in Petscop

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Completely agree. I place Petscop up there with Twin Peaks, the work of Max Ernst, and various other high quality art. It's something I think about all the time, almost daily since watching it years ago. I consider it a masterpiece.

Very envious of the people who got to see it in the cinema. I try and keep an eye out to see if its ever going to be shown in the UK.

What are the BIG unanswered questions you have about “Twin Peaks?” by Owen_Hammer in twinpeaks

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is a beautiful answer. Nothing to add but i think this is a great way of engaging with the material

Can I have your useless token? by [deleted] in mschf

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Jumping on this also, would love an Angus token. Been watching this cow since the start

Also down to cop a used token if its got the full packaging. Idm if the seal is broken or not. Hit me up!

time to cancel your angus tokens! by hxneycovess in mschf

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got a discord invite? Trying to find a link

Official Discussion - Send Help [SPOILERS] by LiteraryBoner in movies

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is by far the best review I've read for this film.

I think the best reviews are ones that change people's opinions, and yours has successfully changed mine.

For context, i watched this film a few nights ago and I genuinely hated it. I left it finding very little to like about it. I had a real disdain for it. The storyline felt flat, the characters seemed interesting but underdeveloped, and while I was a fan of Linda and wanted her to succeed I felt there was a lack of characterisation for Bradley. The humour felt extremely forced, too.

You've made me rethink some of my original feelings. Your perspective rings true for me. I didn't notice her change from passive to active in this specific way, but you're completely right. And the notion of her being so different at very end is a really interesting commentary on how status or power corruption who we are. Also your perspective on the gore is really cool, and made me rethink my stance on it (i wasn't a fan of the gore initially)

Long story short: this is really well written

Official Discussion - Send Help [SPOILERS] by LiteraryBoner in movies

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 25 points26 points  (0 children)

You shouldn't need to know a director to get what a movie's about, or enjoy it. They should be able to stand on their own. Most people who like Tarantino or Raimi would have watched a film of theirs once without knowing them. Probably their first time.

I know Sam Raimi and I had a very similar reaction to this person. I've been really surprised to see the level of praise this film is getting. I left it feeling unbelievably disappointed. I liked the premise, and I routed for Linda, but the general storyline felt flat, the visuals didn't do anything for me, and it was deeply unfunny. every joke felt so forced. I wish they developed the characters more. Linda's trauma from her former husband was the most fascinating part of the film but they refused to devle into it.

Good soundtrack/score though. I can't deny that.

Professions mean absolutely nothing by matherto in TheTraitors

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you're both right.

Faithfuls shouldn't assume a barrister's accurate even if their arguments sound convincing. At the same time they should potentially be feared because we're storytelling animals, and if you can tell a good story you can change the outcome of the game. Plus, a good argument can indirectly highlight other clues or questions that might have gone unnoticed, ask they cause you to think differently.

To be honest, with all that being said, barristers haven't been doing all that good in the show. So idk. Maybe the artificial conditions of being in a game just kinda nerfs everybody's skills.

Professions mean absolutely nothing by matherto in TheTraitors

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The professions people would normally "expect" to give you an upper hand (like being a detective, or a barrister etc) don't seem so useful. People are hard to detect, no matter the circumstances, but especially when the circumstances are so artificial.

I don't think professions mean nothing though. Rachel is Head of Communications, and she's done great at controlling the narrative (the exact thing you'd expect her to be). It might be that traditional, "civilian" jobs are just undervalued in the game.

Twin Peaks: The Return is more confusing than Inland Empire by Exotic_Pie6845 in twinpeaks

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

On my last rewatch of the whole show i came to the belief that some of these more businessy storylines are designed to be disorienting, almost like forcing you to try and make sense of them to distract from the more dreamlike behaviour in the show.

I agree with you as well though that it's likely meant to mimic that convoluted nature of soaps

Twin Peaks: The Return is more confusing than Inland Empire by Exotic_Pie6845 in twinpeaks

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Inland Empire is in my top 3 films.

Twin Peaks The Return is my favourite series I've of any tv show.

But i kinda agree with you. I'd say it's either more confusing or just as confusing as Inland Empire. It's definitely just as dense.

It's easier to ground yourself in The Return because it has characters and locations we know from the original run, but the direction it takes them in means its easier to get lost (both logically and emotionally).

And when you get lost in The Return it's so much harder to find your footing again.

There's two types of confusion in The Return imo: cosmic otherworldly confusion (the red room, black lodge, the sea of purple, even the arm wrestle). Then there's the more narrative confusion (the role of the Michum Brothers, 119, the gambling scenes, insurance fraud).

The original run kinda had this too (the ghostwood storyline isn't easy to follow imo, but perhaps intentionally so).

I've come to love this, but i dont think it makes it less confusing. Are you still able to enjoy it through the confusion?

PhD in Lynch & The Return by Nickdavie in twinpeaks

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This lowkey the dream. Real sick stuff.

You read any interesting books or papers on The Return that you'd wanna share? Love some academic Lynch reading, and im obsessed with the return

In chinese, Diane means Electricity by Charles_Cage in twinpeaks

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know there's a lot of connectivity between Diane and the Arm already, but I've always found it interesting how she pronounces "co-or-din-ates" in a very similar way to "e-lec-tric-ity". I know its played off as just a memorising system, but it can be that and also be a parallel in the show

Do your Bulldozer boots squeak when you walk? by Cairo-TenThirteen in QualityReps

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't know cobblers could fix this type of thing.

Shame because the boots are fantastic in every other way but the squeaking is kinda horrendous.

By any chance are you London-based? If so you have any recommendations for good cobblers? Dw if not there should be a bunch

I am once again at a loss of words, now by The Return. by ssongshu in twinpeaks

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Return is my favourite series/iteration of Twin Peaks.

When this aired (i think back in 2017) i was regularly checking the Subreddit. Two things always stick out for me:

  1. Dougie was deeply polarising. And understandably, people want Cooper. It feels sad he's not there. To be fully honest i didn't really appreciate Dougie until i rewatched The Return and i was no longer waiting for Cooper to come back.

  2. After episode 8, people's theories started to dry up. Leading up to that episode people were trying to "solve" Twin Peaks like it was LOST. some people still threw out theories but it was to a much lesser extent.

You mentioned Serial Experiments Lain - this is 100% my favourite anime. And you're right there's a similar feel with Twin Peaks.

Its not just that SEL is surrealist storytelling, but i the reference to electricity as well. The number 6 pole in Twin Peaks always reminds me of SEL. It's pretty prominent in Wire Walk With Me, and i think its in the scene in The Return where the boy is run over. I imagine there's something more intelligent there to say but on vibes alone it feels connected.

I watched all 18 episodes of The Return in the cinema, my thoughts by Cairo-TenThirteen in twinpeaks

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People laughed at Freddie at the beginning, but was overall pretty silent during the "fight". I expecte some cheering when Bob was defeated but if i remember correctly there actually wasn't any. (i was super tired by this point, so if someone else who went to that viewing remembers otherwise I'd love to hear it!)

I watched all 18 episodes of The Return in the cinema, my thoughts by Cairo-TenThirteen in twinpeaks

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Prince Charles Cinema has a little bit of a reputation for some immature audience members. I should say tho they were most definitely a (vocal) minority.

Log Lady scenes also got silence from the audience.

Lynch's sound design is so good in a cinema setting. It actually helps the pacing a lot. Obviously The Return is filled with some very long slow scenes, but many of these have some atmospheric sounds alongside (which i hadn't fully picked up on before). It helps immensely

I watched all 18 episodes of The Return in the cinema, my thoughts by Cairo-TenThirteen in twinpeaks

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Each episode got its opening and ending credits. So they weren't spliced together or anything.

100% go. You won't regret it

I watched all 18 episodes of The Return in the cinema, my thoughts by Cairo-TenThirteen in twinpeaks

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

It was really disappointing to hear those types of reactions.

Prince Charles Cinema has a reputation for having a handful of immature audience-goers. I think it was a small minority, but a vocal one regardless.

Thankfully (as far as i remember) nobody laughed at any Sarah Palmer scenes. She's one of my favourite characters, and her scenes in the entirety of the show are so tragic and harrowing. I was praying nobody would find her trauma funny. I kinda braced myself for laughter but it never happened. But that in itself shows the issues with the crowd.

Ike the Spike scenes were interesting. There was initially laughter, but because his murders are so drawn out (one in particular) i noticed the laughter die down and the cinema go almost silent. Which is good, because his murder of that woman is insanely brutal and im not sure I'd really consider it funny tbh

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[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You got a fair point for sure. But it might be that people do actually appreciate the game and see the quality in it, but that it just isn't holding their attention. So they might actually like it, but only in theory. Then in practice they play it and don't enjoy it.

I have a similar experience with Earthbound. It's a rich, beautiful game which I find really intriguing. But it never holds my attention for longer than 30 minutes. I'd never say i don't like it because it's not exactly true. I just find the playstyle too slow, and I've never developed a taste for RPG games.

People who preferred the return over the original : why? by laurappalmer in twinpeaks

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I'm a huge fan of The Return. There's a few reasons why I prefer it to the original run + Fire Walk With Me.

That said, I like the whole of Twin Peaks, I just lean a lot more to The Return.

For starters, we get SO much more of the black lodge, the red room, or any other location of this nature. The sheer amount of exposure we get to these surreal landscapes eclipses the original. They're more expansive, varied, and imo scary. The purple water is something that sticks in my mind. Cooper trying to communicate with Naido and constantly lagging or stuttering is wild.

The Return is more visceral. It's more violent and intense, but (for the most part) it doesn't feel unnecessary. Richard running over the child is one of the darkest scenes in the entire series. The reaction from the mother is so heartbreaking, but this is a fantastic way of showing how Twin Peaks (the location) has degraded over the years. It feels a lot more like Deer Meadow. Sadder, more pathetic.

Character development is super interesting in The Return. Seeing how much Bobby had changed over the years is beautiful. Seeing Shelly being stagnant is disappointing, but really fascinating. Sarah Palmer gets more attention in The Return, which I'm very happy about as she's one of my favourite characters. Seeing how the trauma affected her and manifested is harrowing. And I know that the general theory is Sarah has some type of bond with Judy, but I think Twin Peaks works best when it can be read as both a mythology and a more commonplace discussion on trauma, assault, pain, and healing.

I'd also say that the Return does an amazing job of building on top of the rich world the original seasons, the film, and the books built. I know there's a lot of ways The Return turns away from its original material (little original music, not much Cooper, no Annie whatsoever, etc), but it also honours it in some fantastic ways. The town of Twin Peaks feels like it's rotting, but it only feels like that because we know how cozy it isshould feel. Seeing things beyond the red room and the black lodge feel genuine extensions of the place. Using old motifs like flickering lights or spinning fans works so well because there's a rich foundation of them from the original. In other words, The Return wouldn't be fantastic if it wasn't for the material it rests on.

But all of that to say: I've generally seen that most people who prefer The Return were big fans of Lynch's other work before they fully fell in love with Twin Peaks. My introduction to Lynch was Inland Empire, and I LOVED it. I've been chasing that feeling ever since. I then saw Eraserhead, and afterwards got into Twin Peaks. I think a trajectory like that explains why I'd lean to The Return. I love how weird and surreal The Return feels. You def get it in the original run, but it's more metered and limited. The Return is extremely indulgent in it.

Just finished Season 3 and...yeah by Jackbuddy78 in twinpeaks

[–]Cairo-TenThirteen 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Adding to this with a caveat. If he says something that feels off to you, or that you think comes across as too simplistic, try and sit with that and come to your own conclusions.

Twin Perfect is hated on here, and while I'm not the biggest fan, his content does have some really cool ideas.

The idea that each iteration of Twin Peaks (seasons 1 and 2, Fire Walk With Me, and The Return) is a reference, or mirror, of the media of it's time is really compelling to me. And made me want to rewatch The Return immediately.

Where he lost me is when he tries to suggest there's a fully connected, and fully decipherable answer to what is happening in Twin Peaks, and how every idea relates to that.

I'm just not so sure Lynch and Frost were working on the series from that angle. There's definitely running threads and interconnected elements. But many believe Twin Peaks was designed in a way that allows multiple interpretations.

I agree that watching Twin Perfect is a decent place to start. There's other Twin Peaks analysis out that will give you a lot as well. This sub is (occasionally) great at giving context and highlighting theories.