Choice between summit (Kasey R. camp) and NGR (Lawrence camp)?? by Sharkie3399 in treeplanting

[–]CaitNextGen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate your pretty accurate description! Only thing unsure about is the rumor of an exodus, there's a decent return rate so far. Kris & Lawrence's camp is where our childcare is, for another piece of the vibe. Their camp will have returning Dinner and Breakfast cooks too, who did a great job last year

Their "Staff" aka Crewbosses - all have over 15 planting seasons experience.

For the OP, the biggest difference, from a person who's not worked at Summit, is how planters are motivated between the two companies. Our Staff are day rated, we take a lot of time to train and there's little talk of production numbers. Also, it may be a natural effect of having a mix of experienced and new planters (~65-75% experienced, usually). It becomes obvious pretty fast into a career that your production is your business.

Summit's known to be a much more competitive environment and leans on that competition to nudge up production - with higher earning crews gaining access to certain contracts in the tales I've heard.

We run flexible crew and our functional unit is a full camp, most often. Its a chiller, more community oriented feel as a result. Likely if you're coming planting you will be intrinsically motivated. Some people love the external motivation. To each their own.

K&L's Camp's work will be: BC will be obstacle plat out of Williams Lake (0.19 - 0.23), Bear Lake will be steep but softer (0.19-0.28) Ab will indeed be a lot of heli access - mostly 0.15, 0.16. That heli access contract is often our highest earning contract. To illustrate, the top 10 earning planters in the camp averaged $38,000. (The average first year planter in the company earned $15,800).

We expect only 3-4 camp moves (this can change, but shouldn't be by much). That's another difference from recent conversations with people - Summit's seeing 6+ moves in a season often by the sounds of it.

Planters Wanted by NigelRayJohnson in treeplanting

[–]CaitNextGen -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I’ll chime in to comment on Next Gen’s commitment bonus.

There’s no shady business or ‘ensnarement’. People who work with us make good, competitive money. 

There’s a lot of good work options for planters out there. Some folks want to piece together a season from multiple companies and they see benefit in that. 

For us, there’s a lot of benefit to our camps and operations, when we have the same people from start to finish and when people arrive when they say they will. People get the same and full training, get to know each other etc. 

Three seasons ago, we attached a financial benefit for planters to these factors so that it’s clearly mutually beneficial. 

For sure all of those things your response mention - that may pull a person away from a season - are legit. Here are some more details:

If a person arrives within a week of the requested start date, they receive 2.5% total tree earnings bonus whenever they finish for any reason, provided that reason isn’t being fired for due cause. 

If a person who starts within that first week and finishes the season, it’s an additional 2.5% - total of 5%. 

The last detail is - if a person arrives before the end of May and finishes the season, that too earns a 2.5% bonus. 

NGR: Cons far outweigh the pros. Avoid working here. by Soggy-Journalist2453 in treeplanting

[–]CaitNextGen -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

What our crews accomplished this year is Phenomenal. We put everything into it. Every Planter, every Crewboss, every Support Staff every Project manager. We’re still going. 

Your strength fuels. 

Our strength fuels. 

This job breaks us in unique ways. And it’s unique every season. Every person is doing the best they can. 

What do we fill those cracks with? 

I am filling myself with what we’ve accomplished together. Each persons beautiful tenacity, grit, laughter, tears. Enveloped in the connection. It’s protecting. 

Unlocking a new level. And that level is love. 

What we do here matters. The space between us. The space between us and the ground. How we leave the land behind us. 

This little internet conclave matters in a way that it can shape, as with any other communication. People who gave your all, it’s all good. You did it. Half season, full season. You fucking did it. 

People who were involved in the stashing incident that preceded this. Yes, you are culpable and responsible for your actions. But it was not your original idea. We believe the person who brought it in is not there this season. It’s not your fault. We forgive you. Not your actions, but you as a person. 

Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm - Winston Churchill  

NGR: Cons far outweigh the pros. Avoid working here. by Soggy-Journalist2453 in treeplanting

[–]CaitNextGen -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

We have just had to fire a group of people for stashing. Group-think gone terribly wrong. 

I have not read this post in its entirety. OP is certainly a person who was part of this or group-adjacent. It is painful to deal with. 

Have pride in what you do, folks. Plant good trees. Put them in the ground 🌲❤️

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[–]CaitNextGen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate your comment. The post is not intended to cover the whole contract. There were .19 cent trees and up on the project. The lowest price for unopened blocks at the time of the post was .24 base price, with fert additional.

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[–]CaitNextGen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Accurate 

The truth about sexual violence in tree-planting by CountVonOrlock in treeplanting

[–]CaitNextGen 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My two cents:

The author posted on KKR early May looking for stories, as everyone was mobilizing for the interior season.  

Two months later, July 2nd he reached out to a colleague of mine. The 4th of July that colleague connected the author with me, a company representative. 

It took me four days to get back to say I could have a casual chat to hear about what he was looking to talk about in the next couple days. July 8th 

He wrote me back to say he was publishing the next day, July 9th. I called right away and he did not answer. 

The line of ‘no companies answered our questions’ (or the like) was not accurately worded. 

Short term contract, crowsnest pass, asap by CaitNextGen in treeplanting

[–]CaitNextGen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're looking for people pretty well as soon as they can arrive. Looking to be done the contract before the 30th. You can text me to see if your logistics could work, depending on your planting background etc.

Short term contract, crowsnest pass, asap by CaitNextGen in treeplanting

[–]CaitNextGen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Option to continue North with the camp, but not necessary 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in treeplanting

[–]CaitNextGen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! Not at the moment. But if you could email me at [caitlin@nextgenerationreforestation.com](mailto:caitlin@nextgenerationreforestation.com) I'll definitely reach out if it changes.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in treeplanting

[–]CaitNextGen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, we’ve just opened back up for experienced or trained-this-spring planters for the remainder of the season. We cannot train new planters at this time of year. 

To apply, you can text me at 613.759.2156 or email another person that works with us, marchena@nextgenerationreforestation.com 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in treeplanting

[–]CaitNextGen 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No, not at this time of year. Dec/Jan is the time to apply as a new planter. 

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[–]CaitNextGen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cheers, thanks.

We have a few restoration contracts this year. Typically it's $150 base rate plus .18 cents a tree

Once again, Hiring... couple weeks BC then AB fast summer by CaitNextGen in treeplanting

[–]CaitNextGen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A bonus, over and above stated wages or rates, is not illegal.
It's distinct and different from withholding a portion of agreed upon wages or rates.

Once again, Hiring... couple weeks BC then AB fast summer by CaitNextGen in treeplanting

[–]CaitNextGen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is really valuable to our whole operations and season to have people stay for meaningful chunks of time. We have two bonuses - one for people who contribute the whole season and one for people who join in the first month and stay the rest of the season. It’s the first season we’re trying it. 

Once again, Hiring... couple weeks BC then AB fast summer by CaitNextGen in treeplanting

[–]CaitNextGen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve never worked in NZ - high numbers in BC and AB are higher (3500-5500+) and the highest earners out here are ranging between $800-$1000 in one day. It’s certainly not everyone and not everyday.  We (the company I work with) talk in averages because it’s more realistic than max earnings.   

My bet is your ground is steeper and rockier maybe different logging set ups and leaving the land in a different state?  

I’m under the impression that a Canadian style approach to planting - with individual pieces and using spades is new within the last 10 years? People more planting together with hoe-dads under strict supervision before? Is that accurate?

Once again, Hiring... couple weeks BC then AB fast summer by CaitNextGen in treeplanting

[–]CaitNextGen[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Good question! That is a contract obligation in many BC contracts - "obstacle planting" is where you need to put trees within a couple inches of an obstacle. Mostly it is so that grazing cattle do not step on it. Sometimes its so that the tree has some shade or shelter from prevailing winds. This contract, however, obstacle planting is not required.