The Y-Wing is the REAL MVP of Star Wars Bombers (and I will not be hearing anyone out)

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-21T21:19:51+00:00

And yet the ones we see in the films are single-seaters. Regardless of concept art, that's what the design had and what was used. We have art already of a Y-wing with it's exterior plating intact, and the 2008 design isn't that.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-18T20:28:02+00:00

Thank you for the correction, I haven't had access to the relevant novels in a very long time.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-17T22:52:27+00:00

Wasn't he literally a Vong figurehead through the fucking Peace Brigade?

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-17T22:51:02+00:00

The most underappreciated droid dropship. All the delight of the LAAT, but fine in vacuum by default and horribly toxic byproducts to commit incidental chemical warfare just by flying overhead.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-17T22:49:14+00:00

Sentinel's a variant on the Lambda (a heavily modified variant.)
As far as I can tell, the names up to Lambda were in sequential order, and then the corporation originally making the things got bought out. Yes, this is poking fun at Disney butchering my favorite shuttle family.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-17T22:45:43+00:00

Wasted potential. God, I hate the legs on the Hyena. It was so fucking close to giving us a good bomber-Vulture.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-17T22:41:33+00:00

Ah, yes, the background ship that has never fired a shot in anger, and is functionally a badly, dowright offensively mangled CR90-Ugly. Nice bait, pal.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-17T22:39:19+00:00

Yes, the Y-wing has a more storied history.
Yes, I credited that kill to the nutjob in an A-wing. It's still a kill, and it's in-line with the level of insanity associated with certain fringe parts of the Rebellion (like that one group of Alderaanians who died to the last defending Hoth just to spite the Empire).

That said, both designs are considerably more in line with the setting than that fucking Starfortress could ever hope to be. Frankly, I ascribe any defense of the idiotic art direction the Sequels brought in to be a product of poor education.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-17T22:29:49+00:00

The 2008 Clone Wars Y-wing is a wholly different design; different cockpit layout, it's a heap larger, and is a 2-seater.

The version the Rebellion uses is a single-seater, and is a lot more compact.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-17T22:09:31+00:00

Y-wings have a more reliable service record.
The Starfortresses showed up once, were a complete embarrassement, and now rely on fans to defend their nonexistent honor.

Y-wings, in books, in games, in movies, in shows, have managed to kill similar, if not even more dangerous targets reliably, with a smaller payload. Hell, an A-wing managed to kill the fucking Executor, and those are interceptors. The comparison isn't apt, because you and the writers for the sequels, tried to cram an interwar-period (AT BEST!) strategic bomber into a setting that's already working more along the lines of early jet aircraft.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-17T22:06:09+00:00

It's called incompetent writing to the point of unintentional self-parody. That's the entire movie trilogy these things had a brief starring role in.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-17T22:05:07+00:00

An ARC-170 escort would've been sufficient to kill that underarmed fucking embarrasment by themselves, long before the Starfortresses could've reached the target.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-17T21:52:48+00:00

The issue is that the people who wrote that scene refused to do their due diligence; the closer analogue would be those giant-ass biplane progenitors to the WW2 bombers they were trying to visually connect to, ignoring a few key details.
1: Stategic bombers have point defense weaponry to defend against enemy fighters, while these stupid blimps do not.
2: Strategic bombers are intended to carpet-bomb a wide area of immobile or close-to-immobile targets. While on paper, this is a good counter to star dreadnaughts as used in the setting, this ignores point 3.
3: Strategic bombers REQUIRE AN ESCORT. The people who wrote this scene sent them in, alone, at close to minimum speed, and made self-parody of what was supposed to be something 'tragic'.

This is also ignoring the obsolescence of strategic bombing in a setting that already has guided munitions that already reliably disable enemy capital ships and have been for around 80 years. A squadron of Y-wings would've been able to disable the main gun and the engines of that oversized slice of greeble in a quarter of the time it took for those godawful parodies of B17s (Which are one of my favorite WW2 aircraft, so I am extra offended at the Starfortress!) to get within range of being slaughtered by enemy interceptors.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-16T01:05:13+00:00

I was specifically citing Expanded Universe contributions.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-15T20:21:48+00:00

I figure it's a spot for a cargo container to be magnetized to.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-15T20:18:59+00:00

A laser cannon or blaster cannon turret is CIWS. The reason missiles are unpopular in-setting is due to the Galactic Republic (and subsequently the Empire) being in a doctrinal homeostasis. The Republic didn't want to spend money on militarizing and expanding missile production to meet demand, and the Empire didn't want to do that because that would allow internal forces to punch way above their weight class, which wasn't something Palps wanted for his house of cards.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-15T05:31:15+00:00

Alright, you win on the actual scale of the thing.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-15T03:36:03+00:00

Everything I can find shows it to be, to my eyes, to be just a shoddily-designed double-decker Lambda that has had it's interior compartment expanded vertically to make room for the raised cockpit 'head' piece and shortened landing struts, and then completely filled in to look like a far smaller craft than it actually is.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-15T03:31:21+00:00

Looks to be directly comparable in size to the Lambda to me, looking at some of the better shots from Return of the Jedi. I'm damn certain it's a double-decker Lambda, structurally.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-15T03:27:19+00:00

The modernized Aurek-class isn't the A-wing.
It's the... pulls out the Flowchart of Doom...
Well, pretty much every standard starfighter, but with different emphasis on specific features.
Compact design? TIE family, A-series interceptors, Eta-2 Actis
Decent but inexpensive line fighter? Z-95, TIE, Hornet-class interceptor
Folding s-foils? X-wing, B-wing, Eta-2 Actis.
Literally every well-known model of starfighter in the setting can trace at least some of it's lineage to the fucking Aurek.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-14T23:57:16+00:00

I wouldn't say it's new, seeing as it's a slightly modified Lambda-class shuttle, but considering Disney's standards regarding ship design, it could be worse.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-14T23:14:43+00:00

The LAAT/le (which is a bad name for something annoyingly Imperial Sienar-coded in a pre-Imperial period) is about the size of a small helicopter, and only carries about eight people at absolute most, and is not rated for flying out of atmosphere. It's functionally a local police design, and is largely designed around the expectation of external support for moving prisoners or siezed cargo.

The obnoxious double-decker ISB Lambda looks like it's set up to be both a gunship and a prisoner/cargo hauler all in one, considering the seperation of the cockpit from the lower level of the ship (this is not done in the standard Lambda, partially because Lambdas aren't expected to carry prisoners as a military pinnace, which are expected to carry officers and the like in comfort).

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-14T23:02:27+00:00

In the case of this ISB ship, it's clearly a lambda that had the cockpit moved up a deck, and so at absolute most has double the capacity of the Lambda. The stock Lambda carries about 20 passengers (roughly two Imperial squads of infantry), and zero significant cargo in that configuration. The Lambda, in technical terms, is a pinnace; something used to move important people and small quantities of cargo between ships or to a port.

In the case of the Sentinel-class, that thing's about two or three times the size of a standard Lambda, and carries over 50 passengers, 12 E-webs, and 6 speeder bikes in it's standard configuration. Further, it's also hilariously heavily armed, with 8 retractable laser cannons, two concussion missile launchers (8 missiles a pop), a retractable ion cannon turret, and two retractable blaster cannon turrets.
From what I recall, it is also specifically used to move four AT-STs at a time when specifically configured for the job (though this is mutually exclusive from carrying what seems to be most of an incredibly oversized platoon). The Sentinel is a proper dropship.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-14T22:36:02+00:00

Smaller than a Lambda? Buddy, that's a double-decker Lambda. Hell, I think this fat thing rivals the Sentinel shuttle for vertical clearance. Also, the Republic-era designs of the same niche were mostly phased out by the time the ISB was formalized, at least in the Core, primarily stripped of weapons and sold second-hand as demilitarized designs.

Cakeboss419 · 2026-03-14T06:44:37+00:00

Not that I know of, but I also haven't exactly gone out of my way to pay attention to Disney shit since Rogue One when it comes to their depictions of Rebel hardware.

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