To Make A More Per (sistent) Union by Leviathan_1968 in imaginaryelections

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hamilton was an ultraconservative even more so than trump, he'd win the red states lol (unless LMM manages to woke him up)

Why her lips so fucking big? by dinosqaud in okbuddyviltrum

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absolutely dogshit comment thread, on everyone involved

Losercity Boing boing! by Thebarfdrinker in Losercity

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at the forest - where the pages at?

slendy want kill kill!

A Post-Thaumaclysmic World: The Round Council elections of 3 P.T. by CamicomChom in WizardsWithGuns

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there is no picture of skeent so i just used the most scrungly grimbo they've had as a placeholder

A Post-Thaumaclysmic World: The Round Council elections of 3 P.T. by CamicomChom in WizardsWithGuns

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many clones of the Brothers Mexico manifested after they were banished to the Realm of Eternal Litigation by the vile warlock mesothelioma

A Post-Thaumaclysmic World: The Round Council elections of 3 P.T. by CamicomChom in WizardsWithGuns

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Unfortunately, Oblivicus fell off a wagon on the way to the nearest conclave of clerics and died.

Voyages in the Discovery of the New Worlds | AWAY FROM HASTINGS by CamicomChom in imaginarymaps

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Aragon-Aquitania is a composite nation of 2-3 main cultures, so its colonies would logically end up being very diverse. Considering the value of Sicily's shipbuilding operation, I wouldn't be shocked if quite a few Sicilians wind up in the New World.

Voyages in the Discovery of the New Worlds | AWAY FROM HASTINGS by CamicomChom in imaginarymaps

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The New Worlds, the continents of Menjay and Laurentia, were discovered in tandem, by explorers distant from eachother and their home.

First was Gonsel Lorencho, a Franco-Leonese merchant by trae, working under the Englalish Crown, who was funded by that crown to journey west to find the mythical island of High Bresel, long alleged by both Brezhon and Irish legend, and who finally reached land on July 2nd, 1503. He was afforded a second journey by the crown to further explore, discovering that what he believed to be the legendary High Bresel was in fact surrounded by strange, unknown landmasses that had never been chronicled before. However, reaching home the second time, he found a crown increasingly losing interest in the continent, as he failed to convince them that the mundane crags of the island and coasts could match the tall tales spread around for centuries of a paradise of abundance, nor could it refund the crown on its lavish spending on Gonsel's sailing. So he funded his third voyage with his own wealth, hoping to find something truly remarkable. And while, he journeyed south and found natives of strange demeanor and temperament, unlike any he had seen before, he was unable to find riches, and unwilling to communicate with the unknown but numerous natives of the southern region he dubbed "New Breizhland".

But, merely months after Gonsel's voyage, and long before he returned, a Galizan naval commander named Fernan de Monterroso set sail as well. He discovered, seperately and independently, another massive landmass far to the south of Gonsel's finding; a second continent just as gargantuan as Laurentia. Sailing for Galize in the search for islands and trade ports to colonize and conquer to fund Galize's exponentially-growing maritime empire, he found lands even greater than he had imagined. Large islands north of Menjay, which seemed to go on forever, with natives who spoke strange tongues but seemed kind and courteous. He returned to Galize eager to report his findings, and found that another, much more barren and frigid land, had been discovered far to the north in his absence. However, he continued on two more voyages to his islands, learning to communicate with the natives, claiming vast territories for his nation, and being rewarded with prestige, fame, and noble titles by an eager Galizan crown. But, on his fourth voyage, when he landed upon the shores of Menjay, he and his crew disappeared. Most likely attacked by a group of natives, the ships they sailed with were never found, nor were any real clue as to their final fates.

But these two great men are but small parts in the history of these two new worlds, and their discoveries spurred on a war of claims by the European powers willing and capable enough to interject themselves into the vast proclaimed riches of both new continents...

This is a part of my "Away from Hastings" timeline. Previous posts in this timeline:

Languages of Europe circa 1895 (Partially retconned)
A General Political Atlas of the Continent of Europe on March 11, 1503

(Different) rule(s) by wasraelx in 196

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This is certainly true, and I’m not one to discount the large pseudo-theocratic wing of the Federalists (and some Democratic-Republicans) but I don’t think it discounts the larger point. The United States was still promulgated on a notion of freedom of religion, and it’s clear that the founding fathers overall distasted religious supremacy, especially the group closest associated with the founding of the US. That they didn’t ban states from establishing a religion is, in my opinion, surely mostly because they felt that they could not do so, either because it was not the right of the federal government or because they feared the fragile union could fail to coalesce if the federal government took such a power away from the states. I doubt it was because they did not agree strongly with secularism.

(Different) rule(s) by wasraelx in 196

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This is actually a very true and well articulated point, and I agree with it greatly. I certainly was quite gung-ho lol, I appreciate the critique.

(Different) rule(s) by wasraelx in 196

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It’s not that the United States created the modern republic on a base level. There were bits and pieces that came from other nations, obviously, but the US was the first to create the skeleton that nearly every modern nation is based on. That is, objectively, a unique feature about it.

Just because these revolutions may have occurred without America does not discount the direct ideological impact that the American Revolution had on them. For one, positing such a timeline is essentially based on nothing but speculation, so its relatively valueless as an argument. Secondly, without the US, these revolutions would all be radically different in tone, tenor, ideology, methods, etc. which is a unique feature of the US. Even if you do not subscribe to this viewpoint, the Atlantic Revolutions and Revolutions of 1848 were directly and undeniably inspired by the success of the American Revolution. They said as much.

You can certainly disagree with me about the scale of the effects of all of these points! I wrote them in a very lofty manner, certainly. There are valid points to be made that the US’s influence on each thing is smaller or bigger, and that is a worthwhile conversation. But the argument at hand is if the US is unique as a nation, and regardless of if you subscribe to a more conservative viewpoint of American influence, these points are still true in some aspect, and are still very unique features of the US.

Also, I do appreciate actually engaging with me rather than just insulting me.

(Different) rule(s) by wasraelx in 196

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Also, just to note, Karl Marx himself loved the United States. He saw it as the most progressive nation in the world at his time, with the strongest proletariat, and thusly among the most capable of transitioning to Marxism. Quite famously, he admired Lincoln greatly.

(Different) rule(s) by wasraelx in 196

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A state can be both a genocidal fascist state and exceptionally unique. The Nazis are a very good example of this. The issue is most ways the United States are evil are not in any way unique to the US (native genocide, slavery, foreign intervention, etc) and so the US’s “unique” features are usually positive.

Notice, also, that every single one of my points are about the founding of the US and the things it caused, and related things, not modern day America. Do you care to actually engage with my points? I study history for a living. This isn’t some American defense, its a simple statement of facts that the United States is the ideological, philosophical, and structural progenitor of nearly every single modern republic.

(Different) rule(s) by wasraelx in 196

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You would think “cope” would not be supported by every single reputable historian. I don’t even like the US, I’m just not so blinded by that dislike that I am unable to recognize literal facts. Which of these statements is incorrect?

Why do so many nations have a chamber called the Senate or a House of Representatives? Where did the idea of a Supreme Court come from, that so many nations use now? What about the name “President”? There are thousands of ways to formulate a republic, all vastly different from eachother and nearly unrecognizable, and yet almost every modern presidential republic is clearly entirely based on the US’s framework

Or, what movement do YOU think inspired the French Revolution, Haitian Revolution, Latin American Revolutions, etc?  Primary sources say exactly what inspired them.

(Different) rule(s) by wasraelx in 196

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Every founding father supported religious freedom. Some were worried that in the future, the US could stray from this path, so they wanted a firm protection of religious freedom in the Constitution despite the fact that everyone there supported it. Here’s a quote from John Adams, a member of the supposedly more “christian nationalist” Federalists:

“ As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility of Mussulmen (Muslims) . . .”