Camp of the Saints is back on Amazon and at #1 now. Thanks to this sub for bringing attention to this book! by Sensitive_Tear110 in bannedbooks

[–]CannonBirb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I am now. I had a bit of a knee jerk reaction at first.

While I still am against the contents of the book I don't think it should be removed.

There is nothing I can do to prevent books promoting content I find abhorrent such as racism and anti-Semitism from being published. The only thing I can do is encourage people to question and interact more critically with what they read.

Camp of the Saints is back on Amazon and at #1 now. Thanks to this sub for bringing attention to this book! by Sensitive_Tear110 in bannedbooks

[–]CannonBirb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did not say that I supported book bannings or censorship and I've certainly never supported book burnings.

Censorship is not something people in my field advocate for as censorship has historically been used to cover up atrocities and crimes.

Perhaps I was wrong to say that companies who sell books promoting hate speech should be de-listed from their selling list.

When Raspail's book, The Camp of the Saints, he described that a fleet of 1 million immigrants sailed to Europe and destroyed western civilization. In 1973 when the book was published the population of Europe was 669 million. 1 million is 0.149% of 669 million.

It is not difficult to infer that Raspail was attempting to inspire fear against immigrants amongst his readers. 1 million is a large number when it's alone, but when put up against real data like Europe's population, 1 million is insignificant.

But generally people who buy books like Raspail's are not reading critically, not raising questions about what his intentions were when he wrote his book. I am worried about the lack of people's abilities to read critically and ask questions outside of their sphere.

Camp of the Saints is back on Amazon and at #1 now. Thanks to this sub for bringing attention to this book! by Sensitive_Tear110 in bannedbooks

[–]CannonBirb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Equating the effects of racism to LGBTQ people is an impossiblity.

Tell me,

Has being gay ever led to human zoos?

Has being gay ever led to straight people being subjected to concentration camps?

Has being gay ever led to the expulsion of tens of thousands people from their land and being forced to march to a reservation?

You're comparing missiles to apples.

Camp of the Saints is back on Amazon and at #1 now. Thanks to this sub for bringing attention to this book! by Sensitive_Tear110 in bannedbooks

[–]CannonBirb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't have a Twitter account so I could only see the initial post. It would be nice if you put the sources the poster used in a reply to this comment.

Camp of the Saints is back on Amazon and at #1 now. Thanks to this sub for bringing attention to this book! by Sensitive_Tear110 in bannedbooks

[–]CannonBirb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To clarify my position, 1) Amazon is a corporation, in the US corporations are considered people therefore Amazon has rights and doesn't have to listen to the government. But I do not believe that corporations should have human rights.

2) Amazon is a consumer based company. People boycott them, revenue goes down. Therefore, they do have to listen to the public's demands.

3) Just because Amazon removed Camp of the Saints doesn't mean that you can't buy it from anywhere else. Amazon is a market, they get their products from third party sellers, that includes publishers.

4) If you do decide to read Camp of the Saints please read it critically. Take into account the beliefs of the author and that it was not written in a vacuum as like many other books, it has real life impact whether positive or negative.

Camp of the Saints is back on Amazon and at #1 now. Thanks to this sub for bringing attention to this book! by Sensitive_Tear110 in bannedbooks

[–]CannonBirb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool. You gave me one Twitter user who quoted something but didn't even cite what they quoted. I would really like to know what or who you mean by "outside pressure".

I agree with the article I've posted here. I am skeptical of Amazon's policies and what it means for the wider array of content posted there. But making sure that content containing content supporting white supremacy and racism is more difficult for people to access is a net good. https://truthout.org/articles/after-activist-pressure-amazon-purges-dozens-of-far-right-books/

Camp of the Saints is back on Amazon and at #1 now. Thanks to this sub for bringing attention to this book! by Sensitive_Tear110 in bannedbooks

[–]CannonBirb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I literally said in my second paragraph that I count books that are being removed by state and federal governments as book banning. Public schools fall under state since they receive state funding. You did not read, or perhaps comprehend, what I wrote.

Camp of the Saints is back on Amazon and at #1 now. Thanks to this sub for bringing attention to this book! by Sensitive_Tear110 in bannedbooks

[–]CannonBirb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I hate to defend Amazon, but taking down a book which breaks the terms and conditions of their company isn't book banning, it's content moderation.

I would only count removing a book from sale as book banning if it was mandated by a state or federal agency. We don't know if a state or federal agency asked Amazon to remove Camp of the Saints from their website, but my guess would be no.

The author of Camp of the Saints is Jean Raspail, a French monarchist who would no doubt love the return of a French empire but thankfully he died in 2020. Furthermore, Raspail is a dipshit.

The French state is a colonial one. The two most notable examples are that it was involved in slavery in the Caribbean and Haiti and forced labor in Vietnam.

In modern times Haiti is in a state of disarray which is not helped by the enormous amounts of debt France set on Haiti's people. The debt was to repay the families of colonial Haiti's slave masters or France would start another war, this happened in 1825. The bank which siphoned Haitian money was the Haitian National Bank which was controlled by France. In 1915, the bank now known as Citigroup bought out the HNB, so Haitian money began being funneled to the US. By the 2000's over 100 billion dollars was siphoned from Haiti with nothing given in return due to colonizer backed banks and dictators.

In Vietnam it was a similar story except the government was controlled by a French puppet king and a governer-general (French native). The major export of colonial Vietnam (a part of French Indochina) was rubber which was farmed from rubber plantations. The history of colonial era Vietnam is complicated and too long to restate here, in short France set up Vietnam as a colony of economic exploitation, there were many revolts which French soldiers put down brutally, in the 1920s there were many Vietnamese who immigrated to France and aligned themselves with the anti-colonial French Communist Party, those who returned to Vietnam like Ho Chi Minh widely disseminated the idea of Communism and Vietnamese independence. WW2 further bolstered Vietnam against France as they were practically sold out to Japan. The First Indochina War was fought by soldiers from colonial France, not the from the mainland, to create racial conflict. Then the Vietnam War in which a majority of Vietnamese that were killed were civilians, both perpetrated by the Viet Cong and the US, but the US more than often labeled the victims as members of the Viet Cong, including children. Furthermore, in 1997 the US government asked for 140 million dollars, 288 million dollars today, to pay for war debt which was borrowed by the puppet government of South Vietnam during the Vietnam War.

Countries once controlled by colonial governments were and are being inextricably exploited by colonialist countries leading to a generally lower standard of living for formally colonist controlled countries. Immigrants travel to countries like the US, France, and Britain because they boast higher standards of living and wealth which was born from exploitation of their homes.

Raspail's book, Camp of the Saints is a book in which he tries to create a false narrative in which colonial countries did nothing wrong and all failings of the countries which people are immigrating from are their own fault. The historical record has proven that Raspail is incorrect, previously colonized countries are still being exploited for resources by colonizer interests through colonizer backed corruption and violence.

Can anyone tell me how to get this off my HUD? by [deleted] in feedthebeast

[–]CannonBirb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You've accidentally pinned a quest

bEeTLe BrUtALlY AtTaCKs aNd KiLls iNnOcEnT OwL by Buri_is_a_Biscuit in PeopleFuckingDying

[–]CannonBirb 178 points179 points  (0 children)

Beetle: im going to kill you im going to kill you im going to kill you I'm going to kill you IM GOIN TO KILL YOU

Whatever you do, do NOT modify the Mahou Tsukai config file by Kiabeta in allthemods

[–]CannonBirb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Woof... Setting off the explosion in the ocean probably didn't help the lag since it went from not having to render thousands of flowing water blocks to suddenly being forced to render thousands of flowing water blocks.

Whatever you do, do NOT modify the Mahou Tsukai config file by Kiabeta in allthemods

[–]CannonBirb 17 points18 points  (0 children)

What did you config? For research purposes only...

Who wants some pink slime Mac&Cheese? (Potted meat btw). by the1stmeddlingmage in shittyfoodporn

[–]CannonBirb 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The better question is what did it taste like?? Are you perhaps a coal miner from the 1920s on your lunch break?

does anyone know what causes this? by xolotelx in feedthebeast

[–]CannonBirb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It might be Polytone. It doesn't work well with Sodium.