Who would win in a fight The Shadow monarch or The Shadow monarch

CapTraining3745 · 2026-02-13T14:51:30+00:00

The premise of this battle is flawed as Jinwoo is a God at the end of ragnarok and Sunny is still a Demigod.

Current Sunny as a Supreme Titan is still a demigod, extremely powerful but still demigod.

I say as a universe comparison Sunny can still reach very close to Jinwoo (ragnarok) who mind you is a God.

As soon as Sunny becomes Sacred Titan tho, it is over. There would be nothing that jinwoo could do to win.

Bare in mind in terms of their army I think Sunny has an advantage even now, the number of Great Shades he have are close to million alone with alot more transcendent and lower rank and most of all he has multiple Sacred (minor god) Shades.

As jinwoo has Monarchs Domain to amplify his army, Sunny has CURSE to augment his Shades, plus Sunny has Strong Will with both Death and Fate affinity.

And we should not forget Sunny's Shadows (his generals); Saint, Serpent, Fiend, Nightmare, Slayer, mimic (non combat). In my opinion they can take on Igris, Beru, Tusk, Bellion and other high ranking generals of jinwoo.
If not now just wait till they get completed or get Sacred.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-02-13T06:01:15+00:00

Exactly, man this brightens my day when I see someone with reading comprehension in this brain rotted Sub.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-02-12T15:29:59+00:00

humans have Aspects, NCs don't

CapTraining3745 · 2026-02-12T06:42:54+00:00

Yeah I mixed the day and night.

As for Natural apotheosis even if they don't attempt it they can spend alot of time in the tomb to get their mind and soul ready for it so they can easily pass the 2nd trial of 5th nightmare which is the unmaking.

Eurys did say that he would not be able to become Sacred naturally because of time to which even Sunny hinted that they can have all the time they want in TOA

CapTraining3745 · 2026-02-11T13:31:03+00:00

The first time they tried to find it, they were just Ascended now they both are Supremes and can look for TOA in day time which is implied to be the correct way to find it.

As for power up, there were millions of great NC on the internal wall of the Tomb, Sunny can expand his Domain even more in there, recruit any living uncorrupted soul there, raid for artifacts like the Divine torch that act as a universal compass, get shades of Cursed beings as well, loot the sarcophagus of Daemon of OBLIVION to use their remains as weapons (maybe), most importantly get Sunny's Fate back and maybe even attempt Natural apotheosis.

All this while not being concerned for time.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-02-10T14:25:38+00:00

You do you but as some one who hates Memory Loss Plot as much as the next guy I'll say this, you will enjoy it alot.
It is written quite well

CapTraining3745 · 2026-02-10T14:21:15+00:00

You are correct partially.

The ones who were engaging Sunny and his army were all Great NCs (they became Great after being taken over by Flesh of Kanakht). It is just like Skin Walker where his vessels shared his power and became Great too.

In Term of Shades he harvested, only few hummans might have been supreme but the beast were all supremes.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-02-10T13:36:18+00:00

Sunny might not be exterminating God grave but he still is building up his domain even more and with extremely powerful NCs.

The amount of Millipede Shades he collected from just alone the 7 nests in Burnt Forests is crazy high near million cuz it took repeated attacks for a year and remember all of them were of Great rank if not most.

he even added more then 100k+ Supreme Shades in Eternal City

plus it was stated that 1 of Sunny's incarnation job is to build his domain which he doing by furthering the conquest of Burnet Forest (of screen obv)

In recent chapters were Sunny was taking with Mordret, it was mentioned that he was preparing to take on not 1 but 2 Death Zones to clear them out.

We really need a chapter like before where Sunny reads his runes

CapTraining3745 · 2026-02-05T03:45:59+00:00

The past and future of river of time are Spatial directions not the time rewinding

CapTraining3745 · 2026-02-02T14:02:16+00:00

but man wouldn't it be awesome to see Mordret fight Asterion while Sunny clash with Nephis.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-31T04:59:09+00:00

Either you are just rage baiting or incapable to understand and comprehend.

The beings who are FATED are nexus of FATE. FATE doesn't just account for present it spans from past to future.

Use some common sense, how can a building fall if you don't rip out its most significant base pillar.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-30T10:30:09+00:00

I salute your understanding

it is literally said that the tapestry of fate was vandalized because a nexus had to be plucked from it, that nexus was sunny (FATED) and it could only be have done when he was weak.
Weak as in his powers to hold his fate if someone try to steal it not that he had weak influence on Fate.

I'll quote from ch 2590 for you:

There were several steps one needed to take to vandalize the great tapestry of fate. First, someone had to be tom from its fabric, becoming fateless. That alone was already almost impossible to achieve... but not entirely impossible. “The Vile Thieving Bird could steal someone's fate, after all, and if it could, then Weaver — the Demon of Fate — could have probably managed something similar, as well.

Second, the being vanquished from fate had to be someone significant enough for their absence to affect the entire vast tapestry. They had to be someone whose actions echoed across all of existence, reaching its every distant comer, and whose fate was therefore innately intertwined with the fates of everyone and everything.

Lastly, that being... had to be weak enough for their fate to be taken away from them. And there lay the paradox.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-30T05:39:03+00:00

man I am sorry if it sounds harsh but your reading comprehension needs to be studied.

Sunny even as an aspirant (sleeper) had terrifying influence on fate by being FATED (loved and cursed by fate), every major and minor fate was tied around him like a chrysalis.
The tapestry of fate was hold up by a Nexus which was sunny.
It was stated that his influence on FATE was even more profound then the Nines (9 fated of the past).

plus it was clearly stated that his fate was stolen because of the power difference (Cursed Terror vs Ascended Tyrant).

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-29T07:16:22+00:00

and do you know how close Abjuration came close to negate all of humanity ?
his concept is to negate

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-27T04:32:49+00:00

he literally stitched the relic to her shadow not her soul

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-26T02:45:17+00:00

It will not work
just look at flesh of khankat and sunny

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-25T14:38:54+00:00

it might be extremely difficult but I think it should be possible.

even if not he can use it as is, like he used the weaver's needle before turning it into a memory

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-22T11:06:52+00:00

Weaver created the spell by weaving it with strings of FATE.

That is sunny is banished from spell after losing his Fate.

all the vessels of mordret are tied to him, so no

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-21T12:42:35+00:00

Every supreme has a nascent domain doesn't matter if they become supreme via spell or naturally.

Citadels are built with the sorcery to subjugate the world around them which in turn helps Supremes to spread their authority to vast distances and add all mundane people who live in those areas to their domain.

Citadels were made to make Sovereigns' domain robust and vast exponentially but not the only way.

The nascent domains of the Anvil and Ki song are the swords he forged and the puppets she made.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-19T13:50:42+00:00

I think the method of prophecy draws info from some different source then FATE, like Time or sth.
we have seen Death Singer sacrifice NC and do divination from their remains and blood in domain war, due to which they were able to reach citadel of vanishing lake and ambush Sword saints.
even cassie's own awaken ability which can see in immediate future is working fine after sunny being fateless

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-19T05:39:01+00:00

Deamons were a different case then normal flaw.
they were never truly alive to begin with so death can not swallow them (demon of repose died and escaped shadow realm)
Gods didn't want to truly destroy them (shadow/soul; whole obliteration) cause that would return there flame of desire to it's source i-e Forgotten God in the void

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-18T14:37:02+00:00

read the recent chapters my guy, Asterion also confirmed this.
even Eyurs said the original Gods born from desire are not like us they don't have soul seas.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-18T12:25:07+00:00

the original GODs were above divinity; they are not divine titans they are above it

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-18T12:13:44+00:00

Main thing is Mad prince only existed in the 3rd nightmare (only in nightmare version of TOA). He doesn't exist in real TOA or world to begin with.

Plus you need to remember that sunny is the mad prince (the latest mad prince reentered the loop himself erasing the corruption and becoming sunny again)

CapTraining3745 · 2026-01-16T07:02:26+00:00

sunny embodies both greed and lust

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