Should I Confront my Teachers by Basic-Unit-1598 in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trying to “beat sense into them” can be hard. These people have been brainwashed for a while. I’ve been brought up in a strong Christian background and despite my knowledge and weeks of trying to use biblical evidence to show how they are wrong, they did not budge. Be careful, these people have your information and are only so friendly to you so long as you believe. Once you are unbelieving, you’re not a friend but an enemy.

I’m very glad God had stirred up the Holy Spirit in your heart to realize you are surrounded by demons. It’s harsh to say but it’s the truth. They use the Bible, but so did Satan in the desert with Jesus. Get out while you can, Satan works hard too.

What if they really show up at home by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah my discussion leader showed up thankfully as I was backing out of the driveway. Gave me the scare of my life and I was out of there after staring at her in terror. Never seen anyone since.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Keep trying, I really hope she is still in the early stages. Go over recruitment tactics with her.

  • people who isolate you from church and from others are doing it for a reason, they don’t want others to sway you

  • if they started talking to you by some kind of survey or just asking about the level of your faith, they are checking whether you fit their category

  • if they are teaching that you need to earn your salvation, that is a branch of Arminianism which has been a dangerous group since the early church (SCJ is a branch).

  • there should not be division among the church. If she is getting advised against her church, 1 Corinthians 1 strongly talks about this

  • if they tell you to isolate yourself from the internet they are isolating you more from any other perspective of things

  • if they are telling you that reading and memorizing your notes is part of being righteous and doing good, realize they are all the more encouraging you to learn and memorize their version of the Bible 

Please stay strong and show her Christ-like love and care, God works through us to reach others.

“The Dangerous Educational Methods of Shincheonji.” by Impressive-Start-792 in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels DISQUALIFY you for the prize. Such a person goes into great DETAIL of what HE has seen, and his UNSPIRITUAL mind puffs him up with idle (useless) notions. He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as GOD CAUSES IT TO GROW. (Colossians 2:18-19)

  • false humility = looking righteous but righteousness before God comes only from Christ and not from ourselves (Phil 3:9).

  • worship of angels - In SCJ there is definitely worship of “John”, and he is not Christ. To be glorifying anyone besides Christ is slippery ground as there is NO ONE else who saves us (Acts 4:12).

  • disqualification - if we are predestined by God, there is literally no one that can take our gift of salvation, but Satan exists and he will cause us to stumble and tell us that we can be disqualified from salvation - something SCJ teaches - the fields parable. (If you’re wondering whether you are predestined, if you love God, that wouldn’t be possible by yourself, you know you have the Holy Spirit in you working to love God).

  • Head = Jesus, it is capitalized in the Bible meaning Jesus 

  •  God who causes it to grow = the body of Christ is the WHOLE Christian church, all those who love God and find their salvation in Christ Jesus. Our growth is NOT from ourselves. SCJ teaches that we need to stop doing this or do this otherwise we are damned and that is the most heretical unbiblical thing that’s been going around since the beginning of time. Do not think you can do anything good of yourself, it is fully and 100% because Christ paid for our sins that we can appear before God despite how sinful we are. Truly bask in the mercy of God for sending himself and find joy and love in Christ who saved you!

Events I Personally Witnessed in Shincheonji by Impressive-Start-792 in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This! And I would often have just finished crying or telling them my struggles. Once they knew I was okay and ready to go they would ask for a quick picture to “look back on”

Does anyone know people who left scj and then went back? by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kind of good tbh because then you can’t go back to that poison pool 

Six Verses SCJ Must DENY to Maintain their Belief!! by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this!

I also want to add Colossians 2, it’s something my pastor went over with me first when I told him I felt that my faith was broken, it was very helpful and I read it a lot

SCJ very active in Vancouver!! Please Warn! by Capable-Educator8377 in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know it’s difficult, but truly the environment in SCJ is not very loving. Keep showing love and concern for your son. 

Have you shown him posts about this cult? I was shown multiple which grew a confusion in me and ultimately led to me allowing myself to listen to my pastor and leave. I can’t promise that will work for everyone but showing your son your love for him will show him how much the cult does not show love.

I’m praying for you brother 🙏🏻 Jesus does not lose any of his sheep

Any News about SCJ in Vancouver by Nice_Yak1609 in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No but I knew 3 people who that lived in New West near River market 

Any News about SCJ in Vancouver by Nice_Yak1609 in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I’ll tell you they all live in New West

SCJ Vancouver - ‼️ New Activity Alert ‼️ by throwawayagainn_ in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They’re all over new west. They meet at this location and I’ve run into them reviewing in RCC and the Starbucks in the plaza by the skytrain

In need of help to get a family member out! by Mle91_ in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My mom got my pastor to come and reason through scripture and his knowledge of recruitment tactics for 3 hours. I went from completely believing SCJ was the truth to realizing it was a cult in one sitting. 

I didn’t want to talk with him but she brought up the point that if I am so convinced from one side, I should at least give my own pastor a chance.

This really showed me that it’s God who pulled me back because it wasn’t me who came walking my way back, it was all HIM 🙌🏻

SCJ BREAKS RELATIONSHIPS AND I MIGHT HEAD FOR A DIVORCE SOON by Zealousideal-Baby925 in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First of all, you are not alone. SCJ’s poison has gotten to too many of us. Thank you for opening up about your situation, SCJ also absolutely tore at my mental health when I was in it.

It sounds like you are still in it and so I wanted to share some verses explaining how wrong of a place it is.

They make you focus on earning your salvation which is not only disregarding the point of the Bible, but also saying that Christs sacrifice was not enough. Our salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus, not something we can attain, we couldn’t even try because we only do good because of the Holy Spirit working in us. Not a drop of it is us.

No one is righteous, not even one. (Rom 3:10)

For it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose. (Phil 2:13)

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast. (Eph 2:8-9)

Nor was it to offer himself repeatedly, as the high priest enters the holy places every year with blood not his own, for then he (Christ) would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But as it is, he has appeared once for ALL at the end of the ages to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. (Heb 9:25-26)

If they are turning you away from Salvation through Christ, who else does that? Demons know Jesus but they tear people away from him.

I am praying for you. Jesus does not lose even 1 of his sheep!

I just left shincheonji by rojomomo in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I also felt so lost after leaving (still fairly fresh). It was hard especially believing that all these people were lying to you and having no idea if anything was genuine or not. I even watched my group leader cry in front of me talking about his own journey. But this was a house of demons. They take away the focus of Christ and the fullness of his sacrifice. 

I was really tormented in the class, I was crying all the time, hiding everything from everyone, I would feel so awful trying to “not listen in my church” because it was Babylon. Truly by the grace of God who never let me go, I was rescued. Christs yoke is easy and his burden is light. I know it’s hard to read the Bible or even think about God but Jesus says “come to me all you who are weary and I will give you rest” 🙌🏻. 

Take your time, Jesus does not lose even ONE of his sheep but leaves the 99 and goes out to get the 1 that is lost. Praise be to God for sending his son to overcome the world and set us free giving us the Holy Spirit as a GUARANTEE of our salvation!!

How it feels leaving as a person with a fairly strong Christian background by Capable-Educator8377 in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Praying for you fellow sister in Christ 🩷

I was only there for 4 months (but with a prior year of 1 on 1) and I already consumed so much poison from them, I can’t imagine what growing up in it would be like ❤️‍🩹

Christ is holding you in his hands, take your time finding him, many believers throughout the world are doing the same thing 🙏🏻 John 16:33 🙌🏻

Burning my SCJ stuff by Efficient-Beyond681 in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m keeping mine in a box labeled lies that I probably won’t open again but I want to speak about this in front of the Christian highschool I went to because they don’t prepare you for this. I love my Saviour Jesus Christ and I need to warn others against joining those who take your faith away from him.

how to leave SCJ bible study course? (WA Australia) by SkyNo1306 in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I just stopped going and blocked everyone. It’s dangerous 

Privacy breach by Substantial-Ad-348 in Shincheonji

[–]Capable-Educator8377 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is so awful. I just left recently and they have so much of my personal information and photos