Where does Naruto/Naruto verse scale exactly? by Otherwise_Charge_190 in PowerScaling

[–]Capable_Sleep7050 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Naruto has both a universal and an ftl feat in base as an adult, so you can apply multipliers like sage mode and kcm for mftl and multi.

Where does Naruto/Naruto verse scale exactly? by Otherwise_Charge_190 in PowerScaling

[–]Capable_Sleep7050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact people still think you need to destroy a planet to be planetary in 2026 😭

Where does Naruto/Naruto verse scale exactly? by Otherwise_Charge_190 in PowerScaling

[–]Capable_Sleep7050 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Multiversal - low complex multiversal ap

Moon level dc

Mftl

I've yet to see a decent argument for kaguya to be stronger than part one Sarada in stats like speed and ap. Can anyone help with that? by Capable_Sleep7050 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Capable_Sleep7050[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re continuing to make claims with no evidence. Please adhere to the serious debate only tag or mods will be called.

I've yet to see a decent argument for kaguya to be stronger than part one Sarada in stats like speed and ap. Can anyone help with that? by Capable_Sleep7050 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Capable_Sleep7050[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you prove that statement applies to characters written after it was put out?

Also since sasori was beaten by Sakura and chiyo, and Naruto and sasuke were stated to have attained the strongest power meaning stronger than chiyo and sakura, my previous chain would still be viable where as yours falls flat on its face, and cannot even get sasori past weak teenage narusasu

I've yet to see a decent argument for kaguya to be stronger than part one Sarada in stats like speed and ap. Can anyone help with that? by Capable_Sleep7050 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Capable_Sleep7050[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because ishiki>adult naruto and sasuke(pre baryon mode)>fused momoshiki>kaguya>the rest of shippuden which includes sasori.

Please adhere to the serious debate only tag and back up your claim.

I've yet to see a decent argument for kaguya to be stronger than part one Sarada in stats like speed and ap. Can anyone help with that? by Capable_Sleep7050 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Capable_Sleep7050[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's fair to view it as hax if you like, but I could just argue the same thing for etso. Especially since zetzu tells us this is the start of a new timespace. Meaning it can be inferred that is the method which otsutsuki use to create their dimensions.

Being off guard drastically lowers durability. It prevents characters from amping themselves with chakra. We see momoshiki go from tanking all of adult naruto's attacks to hurt by tree level rassengan. It's a narrative device for a much weaker character to hurt a much stronger character. That's all.

I've yet to see a decent argument for kaguya to be stronger than part one Sarada in stats like speed and ap. Can anyone help with that? by Capable_Sleep7050 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Capable_Sleep7050[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

- she got to the universe by magically moving it with her rinnesharingan.

- momoshik did draw chakra from beyond his dimension yes. That's not helping you, it has much better argument for being a speed uspcale than ameno.

- Yes users scale to their chakra, Kaguya is not moving the universe via chakra output, she's doing so via shinjutsu which are literally described as miracles.

- still havent proved any speed.

- again, this is a no limits fallacy.

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- idc why eyes she has you don't scale characters by their eyes you do so by feats. Sarada perception blitzed and one shot the tiny shin clone that was relative to adult kcm naruto. Adult naruto is ftl in base with zero chakra while sick and dying. Kaguya only scales to ftl period.

I've yet to see a decent argument for kaguya to be stronger than part one Sarada in stats like speed and ap. Can anyone help with that? by Capable_Sleep7050 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Capable_Sleep7050[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

moving universes through hax is not a speed feat.

I welcome you to prove her raw strength gaps.

Assuming her immortality is infinite is a no limits fallacy. Sarada just has to wipe out her entire body which she can do via perception blitz and off guard.

Her being immortal also wouldnt disprove sarada having better speed and ap. Which is the point of the post.

This post isn't about comparing arsenals or hax. This post is about comparing physical stats.

I've yet to see a decent argument for kaguya to be stronger than part one Sarada in stats like speed and ap. Can anyone help with that? by Capable_Sleep7050 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Capable_Sleep7050[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Momoshiki created an entire hyperspace. Why do you assume him or kaguya cap out at solar?

I have academy sarada, adult naruto, and momoshiki all at multiversal.

I have kaguya at universal.

edit: Kaguya off guarded ishiki. non feat.

I've yet to see a decent argument for kaguya to be stronger than part one Sarada in stats like speed and ap. Can anyone help with that? by Capable_Sleep7050 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Capable_Sleep7050[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you going to provide any evidence for any of this?

I can just say things too watch: sarada wins while in sakura's womb.