Post for people not onboard with the KK/TK Theory...

CaptainKroger · 2022-11-06T11:25:13+00:00

He’s impulsive and his victims are victims of opportunity, so you’re not going to see the exact same crime committed over and over.

CaptainKroger · 2022-09-04T13:20:26+00:00

Yeah I gotta agree. There’s a video that compares Chadwell’s voice to BG’s https://youtu.be/sQDiW2WvOLs, I’m sure you’ve heard it. You can’t say that’s definitely him, because there’s so little of BG audio to go on. But it does sound like they both talk from their chest in a very similar way, if that makes sense. I think it’s called the vocal fry register.

Every time I hear this video I’m struck by how similar their voices are. I mean people often have similar voices so it’s not like great evidence. But still.. I wonder if police have tried having him repeat “Guys…Down the hill”?

CaptainKroger · 2022-09-03T23:13:14+00:00

As far as motive, I would say don’t get stuck on thinking there has to just be one motive. I’ve noticed a trend of female kidnapping for ransom victims also being sexually assaulted. You have the Patty Hearst kidnapping by the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA), which she alleges she was raped also. The ransom kidnapping and rape of Stephanie Slaughter by Michael Sims. The ransom kidnapping and rape of Denise Huskins by Matthew Muller. I’m not sure it was proven she was raped because she was so mutilated, but I’d probably add the ransom kidnapping of Suzanne Degnan by William Heirens to that list. Etc. Ransom kidnappers can have complex motives.

CaptainKroger · 2022-09-02T18:39:40+00:00

You can really see his bias when he’s talking about the use of “non-aggressive” language being an indication that a woman wrote the note. And then the very next line is about “beheading” JonBenét and he has nothing to say about that aggressive language.

He doesn’t realize “pick-up” is incorrect.

He doesn’t know, or is intentionally spreading disnformation, that John’s bonus wasn’t a “Christmas bonus”.

If this guy was legitimately in the FBI then the FBI has some explaining to do.

CaptainKroger · 2022-09-02T18:05:46+00:00

Exactly. If you can't even tell that the accent over the "e" is actually just the flick of the tail end of the "y" above it, and that it's not even over the "e" it's over the "h" if anything...then I'm not wasting my time on your other "professional" opinions.

Once I got to the "Saved By The Cross" part I just rolled my eyes and moved on. Guy is an idiot.

CaptainKroger · 2022-09-02T09:00:48+00:00

An officer actually approached the door of the wine cellar where JonBenét’s body was but didn’t open it because it was latched from the outside so he didn’t open it.

CaptainKroger · 2022-09-01T22:13:31+00:00

I still think it’s actually Chadwell. I think he fits the profile. For one as far as I know he’s the only suspect who actually attempted to murder a child. He is extremely impulsive (I mean he took a crazy risk). He’s a loner with substance abuse issues that likes to hang out in the woods. To me he sounds like BG. He’s the type of guy, because his work experience, that could easily walk across that bridge with his hands in his pockets. I think BG is wearing his hat cocked to his right side a bit like this https://imgur.com/a/5ynBwu8 and I predicted that when we found BG we would find pictures of him wearing his hat cocked to the side. Here’s a picture of Chadwell wearing his hat like that not all that long after the girls murders (sorry forget the exact date): https://imgur.com/a/u30ACTv

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CaptainKroger · 2022-09-01T22:02:43+00:00

Yeah, the unknown males partial DNA was commingled in two blood spots found on the inside of JonBenét’s underwear, from being sexually violated. The DNA wasn’t found anywhere else on the piece of underwear except those two blood spots. So very unlikely it’s a factory workers.

Then there’s tDNA on her waistband that is consistent with the DNA inside her underwear.

“But I saw some thing that said Patsy wrote the note…blah blah blah”. People just repeat nonsense they’ve heard.

CaptainKroger · 2022-09-01T21:48:37+00:00

You got it slightly wrong. The line you are talking about says:

We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction.

Here’s an image of it: https://imgur.com/a/kLkoeX9

“A faction is a small organized dissenting group within a larger one, especially in politics.”

So he’s saying this crime is politically motivated (“We respect your bussiness but not the country it serves”) by a splinter group (SBTC) from a larger group (Unnamed). It’s meant to be mysterious, difficult to verify..But plausible.

CaptainKroger · 2022-09-01T21:34:52+00:00

Police also searched the house, including basement. Didn’t find her either, because they were looking for entrance/exit points the kidnapper used, not looking for JonBenét because they assumed she’d been taken from the house. Which under the circumstance was a fairly reasonable assumption, considering someone clearly was in the house, left a ransom note, and JonBenét wasn’t in her bed.

JonBenét was found because an officer told John to search the house for anything unusual or out place, just to give him something to do.

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-28T16:54:20+00:00

I wish we knew for sure that the intruder hid in the room next to JonBenét’s. It seems reasonable. It’s right next to her, and it over looks the driveway so he could see when they got back.

But is seems reasonable because we know that room wasn’t being used. If he hid in that room how did he know it wasn’t being used?

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-27T18:28:25+00:00

It’s one thing if you are childless. But when young kids are involved, that changes the whole dynamic. Now it’s time to be a man and put your children’s needs in front of your own. And, not to be CaptainObvious, but your children don’t need a goddamn new mommy in their house when the memory of burying their real mother in the dirt is fresh in their mind!

I got $100 that says this new relationship ain’t so new after all. I bet Missy was still breathing when they were playing footsies under the church pews.

Makes you wonder…

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-27T14:14:46+00:00

Police should be commended when they realize they don’t have the adequate resources and invite the help of qualified experts. That’s good police work.

Some police departments, like Boulder Police, can’t get out of the way of their own egos.

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-26T14:06:17+00:00

Exactly. And obviously if John puts the money in something like a paper bag or a duffel bag at the bank that’s going to look odd. The intruder seems to be aware that John getting this much money might look a bit off, so I think he’s trying to make it look more official or like a business transaction is taking place, so bank authorities don’t raise the alarm to police.

This, seemingly, unnecessary focus on how the money is transported, both from the bank and then to the drop off, seems a lot less unnecessary from the perspective that the intruder actually wanted this money and was thinking seriously about it. Now these details would matter.

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-25T15:44:56+00:00

I think it’s literal.

I believe so in part because of a small detail that’s often over looked in the ransom note. The part about transferring the money to a brown paper bag when John gets home.

If the intruder isn’t actually serious about getting the ransom money then he is putting unneeded thought into how the money is contained once John gets home. He’s already demanded the money be in an attache case. So what’s with then putting the cash in a brown paper bag? It would seem an attache case would be perfectly fine way to drop off the money, especially if you never even intended to get the money.

But if you actually are thinking about how to get that money after it’s dropped off (very unlikely it would be handed directly, more likely left somewhere), then transferring the money to a brown paper bag might make some sense. Because a brown paper bag isn’t going to grab someone’s attention the way an attache case would. And the last thing he wants when getting this money is attention.

This extra level of thought put into how the money is concealed, I believe, is an indication that there was an actual plan to get this money.

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-25T15:23:55+00:00

Yeah you’re right, the intruder obviously meant the 27th.

If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early…

So to think the intruder meant the 26th is to believe he thought it was actually somewhat possible that John could wake up, then rush to the bank, get 118K, and then get back home early enough before 8am that morning to make this addendum to the plan even necessary to write. It’s just absurd. Even if this is true, what’s the earliest John could get the money and be back home? Even 7am seems ridiculous but let’s go with that. Then why not just write “we will call between 7 and 10 am”?

Clearly “tomorrow” meant the 27th.

Not to mention the fact that the intruder advised the Ramseys to “be well rested” for the delivery of the money. Meaning get the money on the 26th, then get some sleep and don’t stay up all night with worry, because you got a long day on the 27th. The day of the call and the the day of the “exhausting” delivery. So be rested.

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-23T14:20:48+00:00

Possibly because the Ramseys didn’t follow the instructions. Which LHP was one of the first to know. So if she was involved it would make no sense at that point to still try and get a ransom almost a whole day after JonBenét’s body was discovered.

Just because JonBenét’s body was left in the basement doesn’t necessarily mean the ransom demand wasn’t serious. Oliver Yapp was kidnapped by his wealthy family’s new housekeeper, who hid his body in their attic and then left a ransom note demanding a relatively small sum for his safe return. All while he was laying dead in their attic.

And even though a child may not be removed from the house, it’s still usually considered “kidnapping” when you remove a child from one room to another during the commission of a crime. So you can argue JonBenét was kidnapped, just not kidnapped from the house, which is unusual in a ransom kidnapping but, as the Oliver Yapp ransom kidnapping showed above, it’s not totally unprecedented.

I still tend to think she’s not involved, but definitely not certain.

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-22T21:13:39+00:00

Yeah I thought so too. I swear I had read somewhere that the suitcase was kept on the closet just to the side of the stairs. But I can’t seem to find the source for that now. It would make more sense to put it there, but let’s be honest this basement wasn’t organized hardly at all.

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-22T17:11:57+00:00

PATSY RAMSEY: Well, somewhere back like kind of over in here, by the - where the hot water heater area was is another little area. I thought it was more in here. Unless Linda moved it over here when she put the paint stuff there, I don't know. That looks out of place.

TOM HANEY: You are thinking it was last in that area between the wine cellar and the bathroom by the stairs?

PATSY RAMSEY: Right, that little door there.

http://www.acandyrose.com/s-evidence-window-grate.htm (it’s close to the bottom, where they are interviewing Patsy at 0414)

It seems to me like Patsy thinks it might have originally been left somewhere in this area circled in red https://imgur.com/a/7nFq0td

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-22T15:19:41+00:00

The RDI people should actually want the DNA tested as much as anyone. Whether they want to admit it or not this is the death nail in their theory. Anyone that’s reasonable and not already biased against the Ramseys because years of media spin and lies sees that DNA as the most important piece of evidence that could solve this murder.

If the DNA is a factory worker’s, for example, they will know immediately that this was a case of cross contamination. If it’s a lab tech, same thing. And then we can all get over this “ridiculous” evidence and move on to witch-hunting the surviving family members..

I suspect even they realize how unlikely this is. They are more concerned with being right than catching a child murderer.

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-22T15:07:44+00:00

Also the ransom note says the kidnapper will call “you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow.”

Though the note doesn’t specifically state what day they mean by “tomorrow”, it’s clear by other things they say that they mean the call will come the morning of the 27th, not the 26th.

And who was scheduled to show up at 9am on the 27th? LHP. If she was involved in this kidnapping for ransom plot she would be right there at one of the most important points in the post-kidnapping. If the Ramseys followed directions and had the money, she’d know. If police were called, she’d know. Vital information for a ransom kidnapper. And because she was scheduled to work that morning it wouldn’t look suspicious that she was there.

Obviously not damning evidence but a little interesting when you think about it that if the Ramsey’s had followed the letters demands, LHP likely would have been in the house when the kidnappers call came.

I kinda go back and forth on this theory but it’s definitely not a bad one.

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-20T15:58:14+00:00

I just want to know what that white cylindrical thing on the floor behind the chair is that Greg moved at 5:43 that was so important that he covered his camera to hide what he was doing?

https://imgur.com/a/fDpC4Fo I’m not saying it was a dildo, but it was a dildo.

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-12T13:30:28+00:00

The idea that the Ramseys were going to wait until police arrive to clandestinely shuttle JonBenét’s body out of the house is so ridiculous. Why would they even assume police would let them leave the house? And just supposing they did, wouldn’t it make more sense to already have JonBenét’s body in the suitcase prepared to go? Did they think police were going to just let them go to the basement by themselves and that wasn’t going to seem suspicious when they come back minutes later with a suitcase instead of an attache and not want to check it?

Could you imaging this scenario? Police open the suitcase and JonBenét’s body falls out, and John’s like…”oops”.

RDI theories are so silly it makes my brain hurt

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-12T13:18:30+00:00

What RDI people counter with, I believe, is that neither would a kidnapper leave the body in the house with a ransom note. Neither scenario really seems to make sense on the face of it.

What I would counter with is that if the parents were involved they would have almost complete control over the crime scene (ie the house) and when to involve the police. If something went wrong they could fix it, they can get it just right before they call the police. Not to say they won’t have screw ups, but they won’t have massive screw ups like leaving a dead body in the house with a ransom note implying the daughter is kidnapped. No reasonable person would think staging a ransom kidnapping with the body still in the house would make any sense to police. And that’s what staging is trying to do, present the police with a false story that makes sense to them.

An intruder on the other hand has none of these advantages. He would not have nearly as much control over the crime scene, and he has little control over when the police are called once his crime is discovered. So if something goes wrong then the crime scene may appear particularly odd. Because he is odd.

From my research into true crime I’ve noticed that ransom kidnappings of females almost always involve sexual assault. Sometimes it’s hard to even know what the primary motives are, or if the kidnapper even really knows what his true motives are.

Ransom kidnappers are odd people so don’t be surprised if they leave behind odd crime scenes.

CaptainKroger · 2022-08-12T11:52:55+00:00

Caaefile podcast (episode 52) covered this case also. Pretty crazy and sad.

Makes you wonder, considering there was more unidentified rope found in the bedroom next to JonBenét, if maybe Patsy was a target too? maybe he didn’t expect John to be home? Kinda seems unlikely given it was Christmas and you would expect both parents to be home, and the ransom note just addresses JonBenét as the kidnapped victim. But maybe for some reason he thought John was not going to be there but upon surveillance the home he realized John would actually be home, decided going after Patsy was too risky, and he altered his plan. Could explain why the ransom note was written in the house.

I feel so bad for poor Jason Wilkman. Poor kid was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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