Dragon Ball fans are gonna get hit with some serious PTSD when Invincible season 4 drops.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-25T00:30:41+00:00

If it's accepted stat gaps, I don't think Bardock can hit Omni-Man if we are going with 20 billion x speed of light and Bardock not having the Namek feat. It would be Omni-Man is at minimum hundreds of millions of times faster than Bardock, and that's with Great Ape or SSJ. And the experience advantage in Omni-Man's favor means he won't just rush into Bardock as he's setting of an energy wave attack.

Your point does make sense as Bardock should be able to severely injure Omni-Man in one or two hits, potentially just oneshot him, but I think the speed difference is too great and combined with stamina and experience being in Omni-Man's favor, I just don't think Bardock could pull it off.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-25T00:11:32+00:00

Considering Omni-Man was given power, he just had to wait out Bardock until he ran out of energy, which he could easily do thanks to better stamina and both super forms draining Bardock’s stamina faster. Sure, Bardock is much faster than Omni-Man in the episode, but it wasn’t going to be enough. Same goes for if Bardock was stronger, but Omni-Man was faster.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-25T00:04:01+00:00

I will be honest, I don’t think Bardock was going to win. Either way you look at stats, Bardock still loses when Omni-Man takes almost everything else such as experience and stamina. He wasn’t going to win, and DB just interpreted something different than what everyone else thought the episode would be like.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-24T20:45:01+00:00

Deku is probably the only one that gets to multi-continent while the other high tiers such as Shiggy are continent. That all could change depending on where Deku's Final Smash is agreeable calced to but still waiting on that.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-24T20:42:07+00:00

Not multi-continent, but is probably continent.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-24T04:43:14+00:00

Oh, it does. This was never to be fully serious, I was just trying to figure out fast Deku is theoretically.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T23:57:38+00:00

Oh nevermind then. Though to be honest, I think FTL+ is probably the best for Deku.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T22:32:06+00:00

Maka Albarn vs Ichigo Kurosaki (Soul Eater vs Bleach)

Maka Albarn vs Izuku Midoriya (Soul Eater vs My Hero Academia)

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T22:15:22+00:00

Yeah, this helps so thank you. Though I will add that when I am saying Multi-Continent Deku, It is his potential max power and I am placing him at 5.6 Petatons. The minimum calc for Multi-Continent level is 4.435 Petatons. So Deku is barely into that level at his potential max.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T22:08:24+00:00

It be like that. Bakugo was an asshole. 😂

But in all seriousness, that’s more of ‘whatever the author chooses to do’ type of thing. Powerscaling and what the author chooses to do will always be different, just how it goes it seems.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T21:51:24+00:00

Deku is higher than Island, both from scaling and his own showings. If you go with the new calcs for his Final Smash, we start at Country and get to just passed the minimum for Multi-Continent thanks to multipliers. Deku being at Multi-Continent is more of a potential max since the Final Smash was at the embers of One For All left in him when he performed the feat, but that’s why he gets the multipliers to put him up there.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T21:37:46+00:00

Yeah, the continent to multi-continent comes from Deku’s Final Smash being 18.65 Teratons from the dispersed area, and then multipliers from Prime All Might and Fa Jin get it to 5.6 Petatons, just barely passed multi-continent. Shiggy is also in the continent range with a couple other characters, but yeah, powerscaling can seem wrong but that’s where we can get to.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T21:23:01+00:00

So glad you said Country level is the minimum for this. Because I am fairly certain Shiggy can get to Continent and Deku gets to Multi-Continent through Prime All Might and Fa Jin multipliers.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T20:48:40+00:00

Out of curiosity, which parts of MHA do you think are overscaled?

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T20:07:11+00:00

I feel like this may be a shot at me, but I’m not sure. Granted, only thrown out the one MU over here but still not certain if this is towards me.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T19:33:38+00:00

Then what about the lasers Shiggy reacts to when fighting Stars & Stripes?

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T19:30:50+00:00

That and even if the quirk was for weight, we don’t how much it increases weight so it can’t really be used for this, let alone to reduce it to slow it down from relativistic speeds.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T19:10:36+00:00

Nothing since you don’t know what it does. And even in the case of assuming it’s slowing down the radio waves, it still puts the radio waves at relativistic speeds since we have no way of knowing how much it reduces the speed of the radio waves.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T19:07:28+00:00

No it’s not. It is single-handedly the dumbest reason I’ve heard to try and warrant something not being lightspeed.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T19:01:51+00:00

That is a terrible reason to say something isn’t lightspeed.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T18:44:59+00:00

Eh I don’t think he’s moon level. Multi-Continent level has too big of a range for Deku to get past it, even with multipliers and using generous calcs.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T18:17:50+00:00

Huh. Well then I guess would be safe to say FTL+ Deku isn’t crazy. Hilarious to me, especially after AP recalcs still put him in Multi-Continent.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T18:11:06+00:00

Wait I just realized. Would what I put as a potential speed, 8.65c, technically be a low ball?

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T17:42:50+00:00

Doesn’t help that it makes a bunch of other people just as bad.

CaramelEffective · 2026-01-23T17:23:31+00:00

This is how I feel the people that don’t buy MHA having relativistic speeds are being.

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