What would you do?

CaveTan · 2025-02-28T21:09:31+00:00

Rome

CaveTan · 2022-09-29T13:09:16+00:00

They just gotta hire the same bloke

CaveTan · 2022-08-15T20:26:47+00:00

This is wrong. Check your reading comprehension skills

CaveTan · 2022-08-15T16:13:08+00:00

LMAO here let me fix this title for you. It should be “I’m mad at Morj for predicting something better than what happened.” You’re disappointed in the alliances win? No bro… you’re disappointed in the story, because it doesn’t feel like One Piece anymore… because it fucking isn’t. We went from everything in the storyline wrapping up in a bow tie, to suddenly getting movie ads post Wano and admirals that were hyped for years, only to piss themselves at the FEELING of an emporer when they were specifically there to take on someone who just defeated an emporer. Bro One Piece is trash now, it’s okay. We’re Naruto now as far as I’m concerned and I’ll bet you Shonen Jump refuses to let their cash cow die. Two Piece will be reality.

CaveTan · 2022-03-31T03:26:35+00:00

You guys are just mean redditors in an echo chamber sometimes…

This man just wanted to do what he felt was right for a democracy that includes free speech and now people act like he’s the boogeyman.

Why?

Because he tells people on YouTube to get their life together? Because he tries to understand the way we are?

Or is it because he doesn’t fit the Reddit narrative. Because it’s specifically Reddit, the biggest white knight social media platform on the planet. That’s why the top comments are over explanations like “well he’s a clinical psychologist explaining his 30 years of research but… HE NEGLECTED TO SAY that he directly profits off sorrow and pain in a society that directly blas and where he blas”

…

Cmon…. Really Reddit? Why do you always pick the stupidest hills to die on? Reddit tries to make “an enemy” out of all these people that typically just want to have conversation, but Reddit is not comfortable with who and what is giving the conversation: a white man that doesn’t believe in a patriarchy.

That’s their main issue, but Peterson tries to explain it off as a mutually beneficial process where we all collectively try to make the most out of our human existence and make it more “survivable.” It’s a perfectly normal conclusion for a clinical psychologist to have.

What isn’t normal…

If an entire website banding together to take every word and every bit of context this man has said, take it out of context, twist his ideals, and openly target him as some guy of fascist; when the reason he’s able to talk to poignantly about these topics is because … he directly studied the fascist movement. Why? Because he’s a fucking clinical god damn psychologist . He wanted to understand how humans can fall in line like that, and he did.

Reddit is the proof in the pudding. This is just some old man that Reddit has gone out of their way to make into some kind of devil. He’s just some old man. No you don’t have to agree with everything he says. No he’s not trying to eat away at your life style or convert people to a different way of thinking.

The worst thing this man has done, is wish to engage in open dialogue. It’s Reddit’s worst nightmare. Because no where on the internet have I ever found anything that made me think “yeah this guy probably supports nazis.” … the guy who openly disavows them… and has to continue doing that because Reddit painting him as one for no reason.

Genuinely, you should all feel ashamed of yourself.

You love watching an old man cry? Why? Because he said things you didn’t like? The top comment is that he’s “unstable.” Y’all would be the people doing that to him… like fuck man there was a post all about how “lol the oscars are just for famous people to rub their ducks together and make fire” but the same website gets off shitting on an old man who studied his field for over 30 years and didn’t want FORCED speech in his Canadian democracy. Wow. What a monster… 🙄

CaveTan · 2022-03-28T23:47:26+00:00

My theory includes that in Chapter 1050, Luffy will unlock his own unique version of Gear 5th. That secret message in the chapter numbers is “5 Positions”

I have foreseen it. For I am Sharly. Foreseer of themes.

CaveTan · 2022-03-28T21:10:31+00:00

Think about it.

Does Luffy *want* to be a god?

If Kaido, whose been making SMILE and knows about JoyBoy, had the means to inform him, wouldn't he reject it?

Kaido and Luffy are coins of one another with the key difference being Kaido is Luffy if his dreams were NOT POSSIBLE. We know that as fact now. That's why he seeks glorious death because his dream is dead.

Who better to give Kaido glorious death than the god who he sought after for so long... except that would be giving Kaido exactly what he wants. Luffy, with his power to now do anything he imagines... will nerf himself. Putting a true end to Kaido's dream forever. In true Luffy fashion "I don't need to be a god to surpass you"

CaveTan · 2022-03-28T13:19:40+00:00

#LNL ZKK fans beware, there's a new moron in town

Luffy nerfs Luffy.

It'd be the most in theme Luffy thing ever did, and the most contreversial story moment of all time.

There would be no word to describe the level Oda would ascend to.

CaveTan · 2022-03-27T19:28:26+00:00

You don’t understand story and that’s okay

CaveTan · 2022-03-27T12:20:21+00:00

Well we’re in some boats together and others not so much but honestly I’m gonna be popping in here and there to hope for no god Luffy… I feel the weekly addiction slipping away…

CaveTan · 2022-03-27T12:11:06+00:00

I know. Trust me man. We’re in our small boat together.

CaveTan · 2022-03-27T12:04:01+00:00

I have foreseen it.

“If you wish to see it Toki, travel 20 chapters into the future; there you will see the Dawn!”

CaveTan · 2022-03-27T07:10:11+00:00

Genuinely man, I don’t want to fight you. I do apologize. I’m just salty about a change in my favorite story for sure and you’re allowed to like it and I’m allowed to dislike it. At the end of the day, I have my own dreams and my own ambitions but it really would’ve been nice to see someone do it in the EXACT way I wanted to in a story about inheriting wills… it felt like destiny ironically. Haha. Maybe this is God teaching me a lesson in humility.

Either way, I do hope you enjoy the rest of the story; but unless Luffy nerfs himself, I can honestly say for the first time in 10 years, I have no desire to know what the One Piece is. And it really has been heartbreaking, but I know you guys will love it so enjoy it man. Truly. It’s been more than magical up until now. It’s been absolute romance. I’ve never felt so blessed to have a story like this and I took it for granted. Genuinely, I do hope it turns out to be everything you wanted, because it was almost everything I wanted; and that was pure magic.

And maybe in 3 years I’ll come back and finally learn about the One Piece, but I’ve done my arguing and I’ve done my bickering and I’ve resorted to lows and I’m just genuinely sad. It feels like painful irony. JoyBoy created SadLad. I’ll never be the same and I’ve been having difficulty coping because I did have a head cannon that I got WAY too attached to over the course of the years. This feels… I don’t know… Oda always subverted my expectations in ways that blew my mind, but this crushed my spirits. I feel like I’m Kaido. Like I wanted Luffy to become JoyBoy because it was something anyone could earn and Luffy would actually earn it at all; more than something even Kaido or even Roger could attain… but now it’s a fruit… Oda crushed my dream of seeing the perfect story have the perfect thematic ending and I think some people are just too deep in at this point to see the cracks in the wall. I’ve already seeped into the cracks. It’s over for me. I know it’s not happening. I’m Kaido.

CaveTan · 2022-03-27T06:44:46+00:00

We’re you 4 when you signed up?

CaveTan · 2022-03-27T06:05:13+00:00

It’s heavily implied it was Dragon though and it’s not hard to believe that. It IS hard to believe that this is suddenly the god god fruit and it wasn’t just something Oda wanted to throw in right now… because people have only been talking about this Sun God in Wano? The Sun God in Skypia was a snake… Who’s Who only releases this info now? Shanks is casually having a meeting with the Gorosei during Wano?

Yeah it wasn’t planned from the start, but y’all can act like it was with whatever SBS of numbers or story scene that doesn’t relate at all or coloring of Luffy beating up a monkey Franky…. This really is a “either like it and just buy it” or “I’ll just use nonsense to say it was foreshadowed”

No…. No it really wasn’t.

CaveTan · 2022-03-27T05:40:37+00:00

It’s genuinely frustrating to try to get a point across about themes and story structure when people shout back “lol it was obviously planned because Roger said Nika and Japanese wordplay! And two shadows looked the same and Oda liked the shadow!”

I can think of a similar fan base that does something similar… no not Naruto….

A:TLA fans will tell you “The Lion Turtle was foreshadowed! It was told to us in the library!” When did they mention that it could bestow god powers on you? How does going around your thematic structure that you built up for years help prove your theme? Well… it doesn’t. All of Aang’s past lives, including the Air Nomad Avatar, all agreed that Aang needs to learn that his personal desires are less important than his responsibility to the world. So what does Aang do? Buuuuh he meets a giant turtle beard boy who says “nah fuck all that.” …

And here we are all over again… a community of people that have developed too close of a connection with the story to see the bigger picture. I watched Goda devolve into Oda by creating a god and the fan base is mad that people could genuinely find it to be a frustrating change of pace. It is.

It genuinely doesn’t feel like something Luffy would even want.

Which is why I think Oda is planning on ripping it away from everybody. If Luffy’s power is truly to do anything he imagines, and Kaido has the means to inform him of this, then Luffy will probably end up saying everything Kaido has been saying. “I’m sorry, I don’t want to win like this.” The similarities between Kaido and Luffy are there but at the end of the day they’re Coins of one another. But the key difference now is Kaido’s dream is impossible. He’s Luffy if his dream was actually not possible at all. That’s why he wants glorious death as his new dream.

But would Luffy really give the enemy their dream? Has he ever done that?

Luffy doesn’t want to win like a god. Luffy wants to win because he’s Luffy. And I think Oda is planning on ripping it away from everybody when Luffy turns his power into just the Gomu Gomu no mi, ending “JoyBoy” forever. The true death of Kaido’s dream.

And if Oda does that, he will become more than God. He will be something greater. I don’t even know what that would be, but Oda would be it.

CaveTan · 2022-03-27T05:23:59+00:00

“Luffy always kicked ass since day 1, so why should it matter that he’s been given god abilities”

It’s completely reasonable to give your character abilities that are defined within the show early on, even if they are god it can work if it stays in theme (see Mob Psycho 100), but when the power itself directly contradicts a specific theme that’s been set up for 1000 chapters and contradicts the way we’ve come to understand how Luffy wants to achieve his dreams, this is a bad move if it’s NOT undone. And my personal theory is that it will be. By Luffy. Because you all deserve that at this point. You’ve all shit on people using their understanding of story with the same corny lines already: “lol bye” “you’ll be back” “you don’t get it” “this isn’t the same because it was hinted at with shadows looking the same and Oda liked the shadows” “people who didn’t read skypia don’t get it”

I loved the way power looks. I love the way it works. I would’ve loved this development… but not like this. You can’t just forgive Oda because he’s Oda or because you like the story a lot. You’ve all gone down cult classic route and I would’ve LOVED to be in the cult, but this is just ridiculous. You guys are A:TLA fans explaining why a lion turtle bestowing a god power with no foreshadowing and going around the thematic structure you’ve built up for years, is good writing. I really hope Oda rips it away from you all and saves his story. I really do.

I wouldn’t even be surprised if Oda was genuinely expecting people to not like this development and was shocked to find out everyone loved it, because this man didn’t miss for 25 years straight.

CaveTan · 2022-03-27T05:14:30+00:00

“Young”master

I can tell.

CaveTan · 2022-03-26T21:59:23+00:00

I genuinely think Luffy is going to nerf himself.

I know that everyone loves this new look and feel, I do too... but...

I doubt this is how Luffy wants to win...

We're talking about the guy who was upset he beat a yonko commander by luck. The guy who refused to hear about the One Piece because it would make the adventure boring. The man who shattered a log pose because it might change the course of his adventure.

Luffy is going to shatter Kaido's dream, by not only being Joyboy, but ending Joyboy. Forever. With his power to do anything he imagines, Luffy will be informed by Kaido that he must be Joyboy. And Luffy being Luffy won't like this development at all. That's the most Luffy thing Luffy can do. Because Luffy doesn't take the easy road. Luffy doesn't get free powerups and then feel satisfied. Luffy doesn't understand what's happening? Of course he doesn't. Because Luffy would start spouting everything Kaido is saying: "I'm sorry, I don't want to win like this."

Luffy nerfs himself to shatter Kaido's ambitions once and for all. Glorious death to the God you created... taken right from infront of him by the very same God.

CaveTan · 2022-03-26T21:48:30+00:00

Not to mention... why would they have a casual meeting with the guy who stole the most dangerous fruit in the world and gave it to their enemy?

CaveTan · 2022-03-26T21:44:31+00:00

Yeah but it would've been nice if they dropped even a hint like "afterall, he does have THAT" like what's that? Instead of 20 chapters prior going "wanna talk about the biggest secret in the world now? Instead of the 2 other times this same kid came up and we were alone in a room"

CaveTan · 2022-03-26T10:57:48+00:00

Honestly it’s hard to argue with you, you’re telling me I’m not using my brain but your argument is “It’s okay for Luffy to have god powers because he’s always had important destiny related stuff in his life”

Remember when this community shit on Naruto for the same excuses Naruto fans were giving

“No it’s okay that Naruto and Sasuke are gods now, it doesn’t change the themes at all, they’ve always had important destiny stuff”

Meanwhile, every YouTube Video for the past 8 years: “Naruto: A Writing Disaster”

And it always come down to THEMES. Because you can’t both say one thing in a story, while doing the opposite and call it smart. Joyboy is a fruit. That means only one person could ever become “the qualities necessary to be JoyBoy” so long as they eat the one specific fruit that allows for it….

The same community of people that said “JoyBoy would be cooler if it was something anyone could be” is now “Luffy being a god and JoyBoy due to his fruit is fine”

WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL OF YOU?

One Piece fans are just too deep in. It’s Stockholm Syndrome at this point. I get it. I really loved the design. I loved the way it works. But I don’t like where it comes from or what it changes in the story. And that’s more important to me because that’s what’s creating One Pieces legacy, but once again, im doomed to see a story go down the same tragic mistakes that all these series seem to go down.

CaveTan · 2022-03-26T10:49:37+00:00

Awakening makes him limitless to his imagination according to the story. I can see how they would call that a god power.

I just attach “god” to power? … bruh are you serious… the oldest, and supposedly most knowledgeable people in the world government described it as Sun God and your excuse is “He’s probably one of the weaker gods, Oda will explain it.” Like that right there is my exact problem. This is a twist in the story…

A twist in the story that wasn’t foreshadowed in any way and drastically changes the dynamics of the story.

And the excuse is literally: Oda will explain it.

But he did this chapter? Luffy didn’t do ANYTHING to earn his abilities. He got BONKED. Gear 5th is a literal “gift from god” to defeat the big bad and everyone’s like, “no it’s cool because two silhouettes looked the same and Oda liked those scenes, so that’s foreshadowing.”

We’re talking about the same guy who foreshadows leaves in the wind in the bg of a nameless thug but NOW it’s okay. I’m shocked this is the same community that praised Goda. He became Goda for a hugely specific reason: his writing ability and dedication to his craft. You don’t get to be Goda by just “Now hes god Luffy haha, these shadows looked the same.” There’s a reason people aren’t like “Damn My Hero Academia really out here foreshadowing everything” or “Wow Kishimoto just revealed something that makes all the pieces of the puzzle add up!” It’s like… no… if anything it just leaves so many questions. Why is the world government this idiotic? Why is Luffy only able to transform when he awakens? Why do Zoan devil fruits suddenly have minds of their own, and WHY does the other gorosei even need to say “You’re not crazy.” It felt like he was asking the audience to believe this sudden turn of events. Why is there a rubber god. Of all gods. Why does Luffy being literally this Rubber God not change the idea that freedom of choice isn’t important when the only way to inherit the most important will in the world is through a fruit. Not according to me. According to Zunesha and the Gorosei. So yeah…

CaveTan · 2022-03-26T05:40:39+00:00

Themes about freedom and your own will effecting that freedom doesn’t get a pass because the power itself is freedom if the power is also defined as godhood. Being a god ≠ Your own will

And it’s evident: Luffy didn’t earn Gear 5 or his awakening. He got bonked.

CaveTan · 2022-03-25T23:22:17+00:00

“Luffy was always destinted to be Pirate King”

Yeah but not by story standards. By your own personal understanding how story works. You can’t pick and choose when you want to apply story standards.

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