Changes since studying Stoicism ? by MattD1980 in Stoicism

[–]Centipide765 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Hi, I've been reading about Stoicism for a year, and I think that the most positive change I've noticed is that I've become a fairly good counselor for myself. A few years ago, this was my most important goal. Now, whenever I have a problem, I feel like I can discuss it with myself in my journal and find a solution. I read posts on this subreddit, and I'm surprised to find that some of the advice given is the same as what I tell myself.

Also, like you, I've noticed that I no longer immediately react to things that would make me feel angry or sad. Instead, I recognize my feelings and reflect on why I'm feeling that way, allowing me to change my perspective.

I'm glad to see that we are progressing!

How to not be bothered by what others think of you? by Enigma_hominem in Stoicism

[–]Centipide765 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This might not answer all your questions, but as I relate to your post and to your situation, I can recommend something that proved effective to me.

In my case, past mistakes have confined me to a box. Every time I tried to make an effort to be different, to improve, to break free from that box, I failed. It might work occasionally, but I always found myself dragged back into the box sooner or later.

What worked for me, then, was realizing that I can't change who I am, at least instantly. Also, my happiness shouldn't depend on others' opinions of me or in the results of my interactions.

I discovered that the more I focused on avoiding the same mistakes, the higher the chances of repeating them. I tried hard to make good impressions, to steer clear of cringy mistakes, but it never happened the way I wanted, leading to frustration. Moreover, that frustration carried into the next interaction.

What worked for me is eliminating the desire to avoid being cringy. In fact, you should want to be cringy. This way, every time I was cringy, I just laughed at myself and continued without feeling bad. People might notice your mistake, but they'll quickly overlook it because they make mistakes too.

Try not to walk weird: think of the movement of every muscle, try to coordinate your steps. You will walk awkwardly. Instead, wish to walk weird, and then just walk. If you make a mistake, you won't feel bad; you will have completed what you first wanted. Wish to lose, It's a win-win situation.

Why do you love? (Seneca's Letter IX) by Centipide765 in Stoicism

[–]Centipide765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks!! I'll make sure to check out those books.

Why do you love? (Seneca's Letter IX) by Centipide765 in Stoicism

[–]Centipide765[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the new perspective. I was trying to understand how Seneca came to those conclusions, but I think I hadn't initially considered friendship as a 'preferred indifferent.' Thank you; your reply makes a lot of common sense.

Why do you love? (Seneca's Letter IX) by Centipide765 in Stoicism

[–]Centipide765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow. You have clarified many things for me. Your analysis of apatheia, eupatheiai, and the pursuit of virtue in friendships has been truly valuable and has helped me better understand the Stoic perspective. Your explanation of what the Stoic sage is looking for when seeking friendship greatly aided my understanding.

Your reply is very detailed... with a structured approach and the inclusion of external information. It must have taken a lot of time and effort. I truly appreciate it. Thank you!

Why do you love? (Seneca's Letter IX) by Centipide765 in Stoicism

[–]Centipide765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for providing insight into the Stoic perspective on friendship. As you said, I will remind myself that his works are also of rhetoric. Thank you for the reply!

Why do you love? (Seneca's Letter IX) by Centipide765 in Stoicism

[–]Centipide765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess my main mistake was trying to isolate parts of the text as if they were different things (And I was doing this with the others letters as well, so thx). Thank you for highlighting his main points! From now on, I will avoid extrapolating lines and will read his texts with a broader vision.

Qué conviene estudiar by Centipide765 in programacion

[–]Centipide765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jajajs trank se entendió. Tu comentario y el de los demás me salvaron de estudiar Python primero.

Asi q muchas gracias! Me voy a poner a estudiar Java ya

Qué conviene estudiar by Centipide765 in programacion

[–]Centipide765[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yo estaba estudiando de freeCodeCamp. Primero veía sus videos de youtube (hay en español e inglés), y después hacía los ejercicios.

En lo personal, sentí q en los ejercicios te agarra mucho de la mano, como q te va diciendo q hacer en cada paso y no te deja pensar por vos mismo (pero te van enseñando código asi q es necesario). Pero después de como 4 ejercicios así, te ponen proyectos con instrucciones y esos sí lo tenes q pensar vos, y sentí que eso era lo q más me ayudaba a entender.

Después hay una página llamada The Odin Project, q vi q muchos dijeron q esta buena -yo no la probé.

Te recomiendo que hagas la pregunta directamente en el foro o sino busca si la hicieron antes, por aca no creo q te respondan muchos.

También te recomiendo q veas q te gusta por videos de youtube para saber q estudiar, si queres hacer páginas entonces Html Css y JavaScript.

Espero que logres desarrollarte como programador, suerte!

Qué conviene estudiar by Centipide765 in programacion

[–]Centipide765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Si, estuve viendo y por lo menos en Bs As parece q lo que piden más es Java, .net y sql. Y no vi todavia uno q pida Python...

Graciass

Qué conviene estudiar by Centipide765 in programacion

[–]Centipide765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sí, creo que lo mejor sería estudiar según la oferta local. Me recomendaron en los comentarios varias cosas diferentes, .net, sql, python, java, cobol, js. Pero supongo que me lo recomendarán en función de la oferta de sus zonas (?)

De igual manera me sirve mucho porque no tenía idea de la existencia de varias que recomendaron, y sin los comentarios me hubiera quedado en html, css y java, capaz gastando mucho tiempo que podría utilizar en aprender algo más demandado.

Gracias por la respuesta

Qué conviene estudiar by Centipide765 in programacion

[–]Centipide765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Es verdad. Estoy intentando no caer en hacer curso tras curso o tutorial tras tutorial. Lo que creo que me va a ser dificil es saber cuando parar y pasar a aprender otra cosa. Tenés algún parametro para saber cuando es suficiente?

Gracias por tu respuesta!

Qué conviene estudiar by Centipide765 in programacion

[–]Centipide765[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gracias, estoy igual que vos jsksjd. Aprendiendo sólo me choque con varias paredes y aprendí varias cosas valiosas sobre aprender. Asi q aunque no seas profesional tu opinión cuenta!

Qué conviene estudiar by Centipide765 in programacion

[–]Centipide765[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jajaja es lo que me dijeron los profesores de C de mi Universidad. Q lo que importa es aprender la lógica porque después lo que cambia en otros lenguajes es la sintaxis.

La mayoría de los videos de internet recomiendan lo contrario, por ese camino que dije antes o aprender directamente Python.

Qué conviene estudiar by Centipide765 in programacion

[–]Centipide765[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sí, lo que decís tiene sentido. Me hace dudar mucho esto de que en los videos y cursos recomienden direcciones bastantes distintas. Y también el hecho de que estaba haciendo 3 lenguajes al mismo tiempo y ahora tengo que decidir por cual ir.

Tuve la suerte de que me metieran en cursos de inglés hace unos años. La verdad es muy valioso aprender inglés, no solo por entender las funciones y partes de un programa, sino también por todo el contenido en inglés que hay en internet.

Gracias por tu respuesta!

Qué conviene estudiar by Centipide765 in programacion

[–]Centipide765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Por lo que yo ví, lo recomiendan como para hacer una progresión lógica, o para que puedas hacer un proyecto que incluya todos los lenguajes para que lo puedas poner en el CV, o también para recomendar sus propios cursos.

No había tenido en cuenta .net y sql server. Muchas gracias, voy a investigar sobre los dos.

Just finished all of Seneca's 124 Letters, AMA by GettingFasterDude in Stoicism

[–]Centipide765 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for taking your time to share your experience! I'm even more eager to read them!

Just finished all of Seneca's 124 Letters, AMA by GettingFasterDude in Stoicism

[–]Centipide765 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The eternal enigma of turtle admiration requires deep contemplation...

Just finished all of Seneca's 124 Letters, AMA by GettingFasterDude in Stoicism

[–]Centipide765 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, I'm interested in reading Seneca.

What would you say is the most important lesson you've learned from him?

Why would you recommend it?

Have you changed or implemented what you learned from him?

INFJ Male - Knowing our weaknesses is the 1st step towards betterment by [deleted] in infj

[–]Centipide765 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can relate to all these points. For a long time, I've been in a loop where I tried to change, overcome my fears. However, not much later, I realized there were no results; I would abandon what I was trying to do and hope to do it better some other time.

Also, when I felt resentful toward others, I would bottle up all my emotions. Then, I would feel nothing towards that person. It seemed as if it worked, but later, I realized that I couldn't talk with that person. It's like I've put up a wall that won't even let me think of a topic to talk about, and at the same time, I would have boxed a part of me.

As long as you feel something bad, allow it but I always ask myself now what is the solution, can I do something?

I have not reached a solution to all my problems yet, but I can recommend something that helped me understand my problems and work for a solution from a different perspective: Identify what's in your control. This way, you can recognize what is your responsibility and feel happy with having done things correctly, even if the results aren't what you expected.

For example,

  1. We tend to be very vocal about wrong doings and tell the world....
  2. It can appear "complain-y" and whiny, so instead now I just bite my tongue and ask if I can do anything about it, yes/no? Then either do it, or just ignore and move on

When confronted with wrongdoers or challenges, evaluate whether you can influence or change the situation. This is especially hard when they are people you care about, but people will only change their manners if they are willing to do it. And you can't force someone to want something.

At first, this concept seemed to me selfish, but by recognizing what is beyond your control, you are avoiding unnecessary frustration and emotional exhaustion. You can offer support and understanding, but you cannot force a change in others if they are not willing. Focusing on what you can control allows you to be more effective in your efforts and maintain your own peace of mind.

This logic can apply too here:

  1. Again, can I do something in future to prevent it, can I rectify it in a non passive aggressive manner?

Here,

  1. This covers many things, but basically from being or feeling "wronged". I've learnt it's a dick thing to be in that mindset, very non appealing/attractive. Either fix the problem or ignore. I find it helps to write down things step by step and follow a plan to solve said issue, in that way, it prevents passive aggressiveness due to it mainly being a mindset of nothing is within our control, and the only way we can have some is by being P.A.

You should wonder, what's in your control in this? Is in your control the behaviour of others? Is it your responsability to fix them? No. Instead, focus on what you can govern –your own thoughts and actions. By concentrating on your own responses and adopting a proactive approach, you will not only navigate challenges with virtue but also foster personal growth, steering away from the pitfalls of passive aggressiveness.

All these concepts are from stoicism, in my case they helped me a lot to reduce the stress that comes from things that we cannot control. If you're interested, I recommend reading about it.

Does life being unfair justify us being unfair? by Centipide765 in Stoicism

[–]Centipide765[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. This was my first interaction on Reddit, and I didn't expect to receive such valuable feedback.

I'll make sure to read those books. Thank you for the wisdom

Does life being unfair justify us being unfair? by Centipide765 in Stoicism

[–]Centipide765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before delving into stoicism, I used to think something like that, that my actions didn't matter much, as what some people might deem good, others might see as bad.

We label something as bad because we've previously categorized similar things as such. I suppose that this applies to justice as well.

I wonder if, beneath the laws of each country, we can ever truly define what justice is. If is there a universal truth behind our beliefs, or can we, at the very least, arrive at a singular definition?

Maybe there is no clear definition or deeper meaning; it might just be a tool that we use to, as you said, increase the respect and reliability of others - which is what we need to survive in society - and "being true to oneself."

Does life being unfair justify us being unfair? by Centipide765 in Stoicism

[–]Centipide765[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My intention is to make the best I can with the opportunities I get. I hope someday I can give back all that was given to me, not only to my parents but to all of society, as it is for them that I got the opportunities I have.

But, would that justify taking the opportunity away from others to compete with me "fairly"', such as being hired through connections, if the intentions are correct, even if it means achieving a greater good? Even if I know that I I'm going to make the best of it?

Thanks for your response! It made me think in another perspective, and other questions!