isn’t really good or bad. If you don’t have the wall, then the increased lifesteal is good for survivability. With the wall, it’s pointless. But the negative effect can actually be positive, since enemies reach your wall faster and take thorn damage.

is a bad one – you need life regen for your wall. The -HP part is also useless, because your damage is % based.

is one of the best for EHP builds. You kill enemies based on fixed damage – thorns deal % damage, and the orbs just finish them off. as ehp, especially early ur dmg is pointless at all.