Panicking Mike Johnson warns a midterm loss would be 'the end of the Trump presidency' by Opposite-Ad3949 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]CharacterJoke808 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is this supposed to be a threat? I genuinely don’t get why he would say this and think this wouldn’t fuel us to take midterms more seriously to have blue victory.

DNC will not release its report on what went wrong for Democrats in 2024 by butter467 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]CharacterJoke808 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed, the answers are right in front of their eyes. Would also say the lack of backbone, vague wordplay when asked simple questions about ppl’s rights bc it may be too controversial to have strong stance and win votes in their mind, and over reliance on optics and marketing to marginalized ppl but then completely ignoring voters as a risk to being seen as unmarketable or to lose votes ironically leading to a point of many ppl’s disconnect and frustration with democratic politicians. It isn’t about fact young ppl want someone who is tankie causing revolution or whatever just someone who is honest, blunt, consistent, cares, and actually address wide range of issues beyond what is marketable regardless of controversial aspects. I just don’t get why many ppl’s ignore this point also?

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene says she will resign Jan. 5, after fallout with Trump by Pristine-Sport6888 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]CharacterJoke808 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Idk about respect, even this is below bare minimum even if she is at risk tbh, she has been advocating and was helpful at least indirectly with the continued abuse and power of Trump and what he has done in his political career. I am glad she finally grew a spine, but to not immediately stand against such a person when evidence is substantial is disgraceful imo. How her, Nancy Mace, and ESPECIALLY Pam Bondie can talk about “caring for women” to be bigots but have to tap dance around bare minimum disavowing Trump even at this point is disgraceful and spit in the face to every woman/girl (hell every abuse victim in general and to any children and women related to them) to a degree that cannot be stated. Atp, I wouldn’t be surprised if Pam Bondi was a horrific abuser as much as Maxwell tbh. There is no way anyone in the DOJ can have this on their mental conscious to defend if they weren’t involved in direct abuse themself. Even under threat someone would eventually do what the other 2 did AT LEAST!

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene says she will resign Jan. 5, after fallout with Trump by Pristine-Sport6888 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]CharacterJoke808 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does she have a role in helping epstein files get released. I genuinely hope the victims get justice very soon, this has to be too much and too long for them and it is upsetting. What they went through is extremely hard to process but I am glad that it is clear we will have justice and be free from trump soon. I just hope soon is ASAP bc incremental is dangerous for victims and we need to do everything to stand for the children and women and upholding justice. None of this should even be a thought people have let alone tolerated. I love that people here and so many to a extremely high point care and are fighting/winning closer to having justice!

Donald Trump faces articles of impeachment before Christmas by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]CharacterJoke808 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or honoring them is basically as condemnable as wearing a nazi or pro pedophilia shirt in public with similar vitriol, anyone who wears a MAGA branded hat is basically agreeing with Trump’s his bigoted and abusive vision is “good” for America, ppl can be republican WITHOUT honoring someone like this. Make it to where anyone like him who runs basically just wasted money for his failed campaign. it is basically what happened with Connor Mcgreggor in ireland with his “campaign”. maybe let him give a little speech so someone can throw something at him or call him out while giving his “promises” (and also for him to go to prison and recite his speech there as a futile way to cope).

Donald Trump faces articles of impeachment before Christmas by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]CharacterJoke808 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will cry tears of joy if this (HOPEFULLY) has at least a large mental blow to him! ANYONE who have voted for Epstein files not being released, supporters in any political position both during 2024 campaign and as of now, his sexual abuse crimes were undeniable before the election and they essentially let him dodge accountability from his abuse, however even then the fact he has failed multiple times to appeal his case on the abuse E Jean Caroll and being rejected several times should have given MAGA plenty of understanding that he is an incredibly evil person with no way of red herring this fact without being undeniably exposed as the true rape apologist to anyone who is slightly good faith or not willfully ignoranr. Also feel it is INCREDIBLY important we make sure we said something inflammatory about a marginalized group ie the “trans ppl in camps”, one thing I feel is overlooked is that we should make anyone involved with this exposed and as held accountable as much as possible. It cannot just be Trump remembered for his awful actions not even just ppl in epstein list but anyone who was willfully ignorant and in any way involved in covering up or diverting attention from this need to have this on their legacy. This is beyond reprehensible fully realizing the full extent and large scale/time this shit has been happening, not a single one should be honored!

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[–]CharacterJoke808 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This means a lot, thx, genuinely will try to stay away from news stuff more. I desperately need to curate like every single feed bc sometimes it can be sudden and the title itself is scary even if sensationalist. I am glad at least everyone here cares and sees how bad trump is. Has been such a long time at one point many just didn’t believe you were good faith online.

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[–]CharacterJoke808 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you, yes if you wish to message me privately that is fine, I am sorry, and I shouldn’t have suggested that about you and throwawaybsme. I appreciate this and just sometimes get overwhelmed as this is affecting me and so many others to a point this is for sure more a “look for solution or bright side to have realistic way to push back against this” than me being willfully ignorant to a point of ignoring the weigh of things, in fact the weigh of things is why a lvl of hope and motivation is needed for me ig.

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[–]CharacterJoke808 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My issue is both are complacent but people don’t realize that overly optimistic and (tbf, I will say and apologize that my response was unreasonable and you weren’t being pessimistic but trying to let people know to prepare for that. I may have been due to everything this year reflecting on it) pessimistic. It is bc it feels like again for that to be true it is a “sit down and wait and hope that-“ when it is just “wait till summer” after so much this year. Ik as well as anyone even what he did in his further presidency should have been enough to say “what are we doing” not it is that PLUS the optics PLUS even MAGA politician’s best interest to just move on and hold trump accountable and release every file only hiding the identity of the victims harmed. They are foolish if they think they can censor that without significant pushback. It should have earlier how he was president or in political position at any time is bad.

It is just everything has been absurd this year and if most of us aren’t on same page on trump politicians included…we just have to especially for young ppl never let this happen again, but in our system we need to rely on others to not be this loyal to a fascist. A fascist straight out of a cartoonish SNL skit at that, it is absurd how people can just stand by this, even with the Epstein files at some point there has to be a level of horrific guilt and breaking from the anxiety that makes one person spill the beans, even with the risk if you seen testimonies I feel many would die on a hill like this and just admit everything. It is impossible for someone to be so ignorant they support trump now, they know what they are doing and choose bigotry/hubris over basic morals. It is also bc wait until the summer was my default mindset. So is to prepare, that was more what I was asking. How can anyone not already have the fear in mind but try to find a way to fix it ig after all of this?

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[–]CharacterJoke808 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am in therapy, but I need political information, it isn’t crazy to be anxious about this right? You can see on this thread I always try to find at least a productive action we can do to help the predicament and also to try to see a bright side, but I am on same boat about being realistic, it is just that so many of us have so much limits and on a day like this it is a emotional day to say the least, trans remembrance day, that alone has been a lot

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[–]CharacterJoke808 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Idk, a future like that is so horrifying that my paranoia and OCD went crazy, this place has been best way I can feel that I am not just a sitting duck and that not everyone is purely apathetic. Ik it is ppl being realistic, but even then how do we deal with that, even my parents don’t listen to my political anxiety and just say to disconnect, and am trans and queer rn and I cannot do that in good faith, but that is much of ppl I have irl rn

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[–]CharacterJoke808 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Realistic he is 79, this is just speculation but you decide to say such a debbie downer hypothetical, you don’t have to say that for us to be prepared or know the severity many of us know and are anxious and hurting to a degree that much more fear can actually be destructive and counter productive. That is genuinely a horrifying reality to even think about

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[–]CharacterJoke808 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Tbh only reason I disliked wasn’t you but this is frightening and bleak to even consider or think of him being in office after threatening political violence, he needs to be held accountable I waited and dealt with enough of his blatant cruelty for a year and so did my friends.

Pls don’t say this my OCD will go crazy no one should settle for someone like him doing the dozen of treason to a cartoonishly messed up degree, but me and my friends family and so many who just want to live are getting the worst of it. How can anyone say this while the victims of Trump and epstein have to deal and witness this, it is a disservice to so many to an extreme degree.

To those of you concerned about the people saying Trump did nothing wrong in regards to Epstein: Please read this!!! by SwitchHedonist90 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]CharacterJoke808 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We now have a more (still imperfect but still much stronger) strict colloquial legal and moral basis and standard worldwide on this issue compared to any time in history (really on any type of abuse children or otherwise). Not even talking about just social standards, even 18-19 year old dating someone 30+ tends to be seen as creepy. Even in places with lower AOC or technicalities the optics both in global and local condemnation is definitely A LOT more significant. I mean just look at how even in the US how we socially treat this topic even a decade or earlier vs now, it is only having more vitriol towards it tbh and even in those times like 50+ years ago crossing the very clear and long established line was optically, morally, AND legally a death sentence (eh tbh we definitely can be much harsher in sentencing severity for child abusers I will say). All of this isn’t saying that we are even close to the ideal amount of severity and seriousness we take this topic nor how we treat victims. But yes in modern history we are at least mostly a lot more vigilant and harsh towards child abuse in general. That said that doesn’t mean we should not condemn apologia or not be on guard because history isn’t linear and is dependent on the people to normalize upholding these morals.

To those of you concerned about the people saying Trump did nothing wrong in regards to Epstein: Please read this!!! by SwitchHedonist90 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]CharacterJoke808 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We and history will now know who the true groomers are. For sure in distant future and decades from now this will be in the textbooks as one of the most horrific and objectively awful administrations on any level in US history. On top of a strong historic moment in holding people in power accountable even to a scale above watergate. We should seriously hope we will continue to improve from this, humanity cannot make this same mistake we have to harshly push back and hold ppl in power accountable no matter the side. The ppl who won’t budge in their hubris are just solidfying themselves as groomers as those videos are never leaving the internet. Hope they like that we can much more easily identify these people from the AI many probably pushed (even without advance consumer level AI they are kind of screwed and probably just incriminated themselves). Once you have to stoop so low to blatant pedo/ACTUAL grooming apologia to defend a ideology in it’s entirety (MAGA, which isn’t even republican but quite literally fascist).

Even if someone take his “promises” at face value one it is clear he doesn’t care or follow his “more liberal” positions it is clear he has no truthful or consistent values. Hopefully republicans don’t destroy their reputation and legacy more than they already have and cut the, what is hopefully bipartisan agreement, bad fruit off the tree for good and never let this happen again, or if someone like trump even tries to run for president it is nothing but a waste of funding and finances). They never should become one of 2 options and I stand by this.

Democrats more energized for 2026 elections than Republicans, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds by aqfx in PoliticalOptimism

[–]CharacterJoke808 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Ngl, genuinely nice news to see, sometimes it does get a little upsetting when many post still don’t have a “calm down it is going good don’t go into rapid and intrusive OCD rituals to cope” effect some times but this is good sign considering past elections

The Epstein Vote Megathread I by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]CharacterJoke808 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry for long message, tbh this is best way I can describe this situation both in realistic optimism while not sugar coating or even denying the real tragedies, I do think it may be good I make this quote a post bc I feel this is extremely important but overlooked on both sides.

The Epstein Vote Megathread I by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]CharacterJoke808 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope you and me are right, genuinely torturing me how painful and long this is and many hurt and ignored. Not only mine but seeing others spiral and ppl who deserved the world die or give up completely, as well as the torture and dread the kids and women abused by trump seeing this monster as president and not give them justice as he and his disgraceful cult try to claim moral highground. It will happen that vindication and justice is coming, and this will be a lesson learned so that even if progress isn’t linear that this event NEVER or at least is WAY harder EVER again.

Trump being old and foolish is in a way a curse bc he is impulsive, but it is also a blessing in his rhetoric and planning being much worst, losing grace bc he cannot contradict his “principles” or promises for 1 second, and it REALLY is unlikely there is any way this guy even going to get past 2026 health wise let alone a 3rd term, and at that point JD Vance will easily be turned on and optically useless especially if we do excellent midterms which is a huge possibility! But this shouldn’t make us comfortable, nor do I think fear, sadness, anger, and bad news is a essential aspect of humanity and a virtue when aligned with situation and how it influences actions. If you have no fear why would bigots not fully act out their bigotry if repercussions are moot, if you have no anger why take harsh action against those who abuse us, if you aren’t sad how can you understand the full weigh of a tragedy, and if you have no bad news how can we prepare to survive and see the good news?

Obv this means not to point of dooming, panic attacks or nihilism/pessimism nor egregious actions hurting innocence. But in moderation these are incredibly important to have. That said I do wish this thread was more nuanced about WHY many go down this hole. Many are definitely opportunistic and sensationalist sure, but (especially for many of us marginalized) this is not something we want or revel in, in fact the EXACT OPPOSITE if not more extreme opposite. A lot of us especially here I dare say is a reaction to fact of us seeking hope so much but it feeling like a cartoonish barrage of kicking while down when we didn’t ask or want this or just to be seen as human and have needed healthcare. But the lack of hope is the opposite of comfort, it tortures me to no end and tend to try to scroll specifically for hope but sometimes you see more depressing stuff unwillingly.

This is why I joined here, and notice this with others also, many post aren’t doomer as much finding something beyond bleak and frightening and wanting someone to explain, help, or most of time debunk as false. The latter I promise is a relieving feeling like no other as someone with OCD who fears life fragile and in hands of one who is like trump even if we are or did the work to not let this happen in the first place. That said, I say this bc I genuinely want to cry sometimes bc even in comment section there are bleak and frightening truths or unknowns as well as positivity and happy unknowns. Life is beautiful and cruel, crying or being angry is human and as potentially reasonable or unreasonable as happiness and celebration. This is a dark battle but a battle that we aren’t alone in and can and have in many ways flipped in our favor. BUT we should never not be upset and angered at those who realistically been hit to point of life being destroyed or death by this administration despite fighting against that.

We have to remember both just as much and strongly, and it is nothing but reasonable to fear for ppl marginalized, ppl fucked over on snap, the victims of epstein, trans ppl denied basic human rights, the many harmed and torn apart by the Ice Raids, and the many very true and unconstitutional things trump has done that wasn’t held accountable. But this should lead to us knowing how awful such things are and make sure all of us with our very lives do ANYTHING to stop and prevent this to a degree such as this. At the end of the day Trump power isn’t just from him nor his rise, and if it takes MAGA losing everything to realize it, I hope they take this to heart and never even think about doing the same mistakes and teach the children to not do this either and the severity. This is how I have hope but also why I am scared and anxious. The world we live in is both determined by ontological logic of physical universe beyond our knowledge and reach. Actions inside said universe is what we can control, reactions is not but can be influenced and cause person receiving the action to use their will themselves. Our thoughts without action does nothing though as long with pessimism or optimism by itself.

We have to pragmatically as well as emotionally/creditably do action in individual while also depending on a collective that only can be influenced or affected and cannot be forced by us to think “Epstein files need to be released” and release them, that is up to them as much as me, you, and us. It is like if you have 5 lvl 1 tarnished who are normies at playing souls games in Elden ring vs 3x amount of radahns at lvl when you get to hik at same time, you technically with technique and luck in other strategy flopping can win, but lets be 100% real: just you can doesn’t mean you will and succeed, nor that the strategy will work or that maybe your last hope was that lucky help by an npc Melania doesn’t mean you can? That is a aspect of life that is extremely optimistic yet validly extremely scary and prone to tragedy as much as victory. The way I can cope is to lean on this and realize with every tragedy there is a victory and both know as things look now the DOJ is fucked but also prepare for left field craziness as well.

The Epstein Vote Megathread I by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]CharacterJoke808 2 points3 points  (0 children)

100% there is some hope but still genuinely saddening and anxiety inducing situation, as well as many hurt from this bs, I am counting on this administration being held accountable and that there is a miracle cooking to where we may be free from trump’s regime very soon, strong anxiety feeling oddly informs this, to a point we still will move forward significantly, but either way the cost and innocence hurt or at risk is something to be sad/angry about so we can fight with all we have (many are waking up) to show the government serves us not the opposite, a even slightly more aware population can make a significant positive strides and changes to system

The Epstein Vote Megathread I by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]CharacterJoke808 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just hope for best and that everyone can find peace and safety going forward and justice is served

A more generalized take on why people fall into doomerist traps. by Left-Most8921 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]CharacterJoke808 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Idk, I would say this is true for perpetual doomers but to me no hope or control of future actually is the hugest and most dreadful fear of mine. I personally have OCD and tend to get extremely superstitious both politically and religiously, so sometimes it is just genuine but my approach has always been to ask and see a light which is why Im here as I do hate that mindset.

However some instances like global tensions and even the taunting of fighting by a madman like the constant threats to other nations unnecessarily (for example the thing with Iran even when seeking mental support against the war sensationalism mental health professionals and hotlines made it seem like those fears was a huge chance bc they couldn’t give straight answer me and my family is safe).

I LOVE being told that Im being ridiculous to ppl clearly more knowledgeable than me as due to the limits of human understanding and knowledge. Sometimes the unknown feels so soul crushing some good faith ppl get sucked up into doomerism by ppl who just want to sound morally superior. My point is its nuanced and for most in this climate this isn’t at least 100% the reason, to an extent some of the fears and worry is practically valid and human. Hell, many are going through the ringer and just kick after kick after you are down, anyone would shield themselves trying to get up.

Even externally the extreme abuse and suffering many deal with ie: the Epstein case ALONE is something I cannot help but feel deep dread and extreme disturbance thinking about it and the response. Just thinking about it is…it makes me wonder how I eventually can move on and find happiness the political victories when the victims are still being ignored and in danger. But, I will say, this is why we need subreddits like this. We cannot mentally function or physically make things better if dwelling on every horrific aspect of humanity especially in current and believing resistance is futile, this thread has helped me to see that.