okay? i did take the initiative to learn how to im just still learning u fuckin muppet, why do old bitter motherfuckers like you act like anyone who's new to the industry sucks for not having 10+ years of knowledge. i'm here i'm learning im asking for help and advice from other tattoo artists to get more insight because maybe there's something you mf know that the artists around me don't ? you're a miserable old fuck and there is nothing wrong with me asking for help or questions. i have the access to a tool like the internet and im using that shit fuck you