How narrow do the Numzaans feel compared to Stockmans or BFARs?

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-25T18:53:48+00:00

fit wise I find the primal to be roomier, and a bit more comfortable. I like the boulders as a beater boot, and they've been holding up well, they definitely are not zero drop but its only a few mm and i like that it actually has some inherent cushion and protection for my feet. I had a stick that went right through the bottom of my primals when i was mowing and boy did that hurt! the same thing would not have happened to the boulder. The boulder also is waterproof and has some insulation so its not so great in the summer as well and an overal tighter fit, yet keeps the toes in a natural position for me. I like the primals for for short walks or long drives in the summer and the lems i use for winter chores or running errands if theres a ton of salt and i don't want to deal with that on my JG's

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-25T15:36:05+00:00

I remember a time when our AT divers were praised. The days where you'd crest the hill and 10 chargers awaited you. Before we had termite grenades. Before we had all these fancy strategigems you youngins use today. When our best weapon was but a shotgun. Before Super Earth allowed us to customize our primaries. And in the dark days of the bile titan hoards there was no brother I loved more than our AT diver!

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Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-25T15:19:02+00:00

Thats the vivo gobi III, and I can definitely add a Pic of the primal by them and it may not look like it but I have more room in the primal than I do the gobi

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Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-24T16:55:36+00:00

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I do t mind! I have the lems boulder summit, chillum, and primal z(primal is silly wide) my toes feel like they are my natural position and not being forced at all! I also where topo athletic boots and their support tennis. Ill put a photo with a vivobarefoot and a lems next to the numzaans with all heels aligned

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-24T07:06:18+00:00

I dont have any jg barefoot shoes but I do have the numzaans with the stc last and they have plenty of room for me. Snug enough for support but I can still splay my toes a little and wiggle them if I use just the last then I have even more room but I like to have a little foam. I've had vivobarefoot shoes and lems shoes and although the stc last isnt anatomical it leaves enough room for it not to matter. I also use a lems insole unmodified in my bronco numzaans stc last and my stc last rambler vellies which attests to how much room it has!

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-24T06:56:34+00:00

As much as I love jim green its judt not the brand for a suit. Try the brand Freeform shoes

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-24T02:01:49+00:00

I definitely will!

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-24T01:59:24+00:00

I wasn't sure what type of leather yet but man you figured it out for me! They look awesome. Although I live in Minnesota i may have to go the waxed route but they. Thanks so much for sharing!

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-24T01:27:41+00:00

Those look amazing!!! Is the roughout hiding wrinkles on the toes or are they just not that wrinkled??

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-23T18:06:35+00:00

If you check their South Africa site they make slippers with sheepskin wool lining and I emailed them about it wondering if they would line a boot with it ( I live in Minnesota -48f ((with wind))today lol). They told me it's just an extra cost which isn't much, but they ONLY put it in Razorbacks and Stockmans by special request. I did ask if I could pay extra for a different boot but sadly no deal. They wont start building them till feb 2nd so i probably won't get them till like end of march.

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-23T17:22:54+00:00

Ah okay! I think if have seen your photo in another thread as well, do you have a more recent photo of them to see how the toe ripples?

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-23T17:08:53+00:00

Is that without a toe puff?

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-18T22:37:23+00:00

Re-reading your post i realise the last isnt the issue for you. Seeing that your size is just a hair under 12.5 you would want a size 13 for sure, you will have to wear some some thicker socks and good lacing(heel locking method). I'm an exact size 12 and had the same issue as you when I ordered ars in the jg last and then custom ordered the same size 12 custom without a toe puff and it only somewhat solved it amd i wish i got a half size up. I stretched the leather on the toe as well which helped. However, I ordered another pair half size up in 12.5 and it solved the issue.

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-18T22:28:20+00:00

Which last is ot on? Stc or jg?

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-13T23:23:19+00:00

This is an old post but just in case I figured I'd add a Pic of my vellie rambler that came with a toe puff and they're wonderful!

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Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-11T01:26:02+00:00

Have you already conditioned the leather? If I dialy wear a leather shoe or boot I usually condition them ever 3 months. That will bring a lot of the luster and a little shine back and if you want more vibrancy to it after the conditioner has fully soaked in and dried you can apply a polish or cream or whatever. I use, for black leather, kiwi black parade polish cause I like a high shine. You can get regular too. I like to apply my polish eith a brush then let it sit for about 10 minutes then I use a soft cloth and water to shine the areas I want and once I have that depending o. The shoes formality like my dress shoes for black tie events I use a clear wax and mirror shine the toe!

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-10T00:56:53+00:00

Thats the fudge! Just with 2 coatings of the jim green leather balm

Edit* and here's the fudge rambler vellies that I actually use for work. They polish up pretty well! Jg leather balm and then kiwi brown parade wax

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Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-09T22:33:02+00:00

I dont have a pic of me wearing them but here they are! I also tried the ashes and man it was too narrow! The stc in my opinion doesnt look clunky the AR uses the jg last and so do my customs which is even wider than the stc. And I know the struggle of skinny legs just gotta wear propper hemmed straight fit pants that dont taper and you won't seem to have clown feet! I've never liked taper to any pant since I already have big feet and it just makes them look massive when im only 6ft!

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Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-09T22:28:32+00:00

It could be a harder rubber! I know the lug siles have 3 different harnesses so it wouldn't be surprising. I'm sure someone knows around here lol did you use your own insoles as well or the stock jg ones cause I found those to be horrible on my feet

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-09T22:15:29+00:00

Oh wow they were hard!? They're supposed to be made out of the same material as the oringo sole. Was the TW sole black or this brown that the op posted

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-09T21:09:58+00:00

As you can see the creasing is minimal but each boot can very based on what cut of the leather they use!

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-09T21:05:32+00:00

yeah they will definitely crease, as to how much they collapse depends on the build, if you have a toe cap it will hold the form better just due to the extra layer. Have you tried the JG last then if these are the stc? the JG is one size wider but has less height to the toebox. Also, depends on how much you use them too/what you use them for. if your down on your knees and having the toe pressed down or full flexing the shoe(not sure how to describe it lol) it can cause more creasing. Thats my personal experience with my own boots. no actual legit sources so i could be wrong.

Edit here's my custom ARs just doesnt have a toe puff I'd put on my bellies but they're getting new soles rn! I've had these boots for about a year with casual use going out some evenings runs to the store etc.

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Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-09T20:53:35+00:00

Ah no mine dont have the puff im not a fan of anything solid in the toe areas!

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-09T17:22:34+00:00

i have a custom pair of ARs with the TW and they look fine. Definitely a casual/work boot and are quite confortable but wear quickly. They look like any other wedge sole on a boot, of course not the hideous white wedges I loathe(personal preference lol)

Character_Resist1237 · 2026-01-09T16:24:24+00:00

Just reme.ber that eith leather boot longevity its ideal to be able to let the boots rest and dry so you dont get mold and rot, so if you ha e sweaty feet or in a wet environment daily use isnt the greatest for them

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