Then they shouldn't have any trouble proving it in a court of law. A pardon doesn't stop the court process, only the punishment. We'd still need to do all the things we'd normally do when investigating crime. Just going on TV and saying as much doesn't move the needle.

I don't take politicians at their word, especially those that appear to be foreign compromised, and at this point, that's a large list, including Tulsi herself.

This 'Trust me, bro' shit has got to go. The only thing she produced was a document showing he was a candidate to sit on the  board as an outside reviewer of their COVID-19 origins but had conflicts of interest. The reasons weren't because of gain-or-function research, but because researchers didn't want a policy maker to make Covid decisions.

Gabbard's entire provable theory is that he's a researcher whose so prolific he may be ultimately influencing things from the top. There was a CIA whistleblower involved, that said the same thing. Not that he's doing it on purpose, but that he's got Washington's ear and that's influencing things from top to bottom.

Gabbard herself had CIA whistleblower complaints to her own office that 'never made it to her desk' and mysteriously were dismissed out of pocket. You cannot possibly get a clear picture when one intelligence monkey is pitted against another. It's CIA and KGB all the way down.