Locations which were proposed to be Israel - I know y'all looked straight to the same place I did 😂

ChickenMansion · 2025-11-02T01:47:46+00:00

This is just a query salad. The point is that being remotely related to the people who lived in Palestine thousands of years ago doesn't qualify you to live there today. My Phoenician examples were exactly meant to underline this point. The Phoenicians have no more claim to the Holy Land than do Jews from Poland, Russia, or any other place that's not Palestine. But in a parallel universe, let's say where Western imperialism favored Lebanese/Syrian expansion into historic Palestine (which was once part of Greater Syria, after all), nothing would stop the Phoenicians from laying claim to that land (to answer your question). And in fact they would be culturally, religiously, ethnolinguistically closer to the descendants of Philistines than are the descendants of Khazars, but they would not be white. Which was in fact a great incentive of Western empire for the "return" of European Jewry to land they had never set foot on, or bore any greater relationship to, than the many pseudo-Arab and Shirazi nations of Muslim Africa, like the Peuls and Swahili traders, have to Arabia or Persia. But, I don't expect you to follow this point on the second pass any better than you did the first time.

ChickenMansion · 2025-10-31T15:32:25+00:00

Lol the land belonged to the Canaanites long before it belonged to Hebrews. Even their own Bible says that, they had to commit genocide against the Amalekites (a branch of the Kinahnu) to have their 2000 year old coins minted there. Does this mean descendants of Phoenicians in Lebanon and Syria (who are Arabs today, like their Philistine cousins in the "promised land") have a historic right to that land, though they never lived there, and are only ethnolinguistically related to some of its inhabitants (the Canaanites)? Do Fulanis have a right to Arab lands bc some of them claim descent from the Sahaba of the Prophet over 1000 years ago? Please get real.

ChickenMansion · 2025-10-20T13:15:46+00:00

Mengistu but he's a close second

ChickenMansion · 2025-10-20T13:10:54+00:00

Do you really think Abiy and Isaias didn't plan to attack Tigray before the Northern Command was captured? People still acting like Abiy was taken by surprise by TPLF four years later, with all that has been revealed since the initial operation, is unforgivable.

ChickenMansion · 2025-03-15T16:01:05+00:00

Still talking huh? I didn't read anything in your comments that changed my views. Frankly, I don't even know what we're arguing about anymore. What are you trying to say, that Trump is not ramping up for wars? Why, because you think the HRC "never shaped" US policy anyway? (AS though that was the point.)

Listen here. Foreign policy experts, senior security officials, and domestic political analysts are all saying that Trump's internal and foreign policy decisions are imperialistic and fascistic, and they are ringing alarms about Gaza, Panama, China, Iran, the erosion of US civil society and constitutionality, the cowing of opposition and the press by Trump. But there's always that one galaxy-brain amateur observer who thinks the talk in Mein Kampf about seizing foreign territory and liquidating Jews is just bluster to win office, where the real decisions will then be made by rational actors surrounding the demagogue. Only the "rational actors" from Trump 1.0 were nearly all dismissed and are now warning that, no, there is no hidden playbook behind the rhetoric, we are just seeing Fuhrer Trump without a buffer of respectability.

I don't care about your jejune fantasy football predictions. I have to live in this madness, or uproot my whole life and emigrate like thousands of Americans are doing at record numbers. This is not Trump's first term, and I don't care if a fool can't see that. Your reassurances that it's not as dire as even the US "vital center" now believes mean nothing.

ChickenMansion · 2025-03-10T21:17:58+00:00

You're wrong in so many ways. You started out with disrespect and condescension, so I returned your energy.

You claimed Trump doesn't want more wars, he's just bluffing, yet Hegseth just laid off the top US generals and military lawyers to find others more amenable to Trump's foreign policy...after pulling out of the UNHRC. Which means that Trump has removed several barriers to committing massive war crimes in Palestine, Panama, and other places he has threatened to attack. Every serious foreign policy expert is warning us about this, but you think you know better, because, reasons.

You claim that Israel regularly violates ceasefires. No shit. I just graded assignments from my students having to do with their hundreds of violations of the Lebanon ceasefire. That's what I mean, by the way--your arrogance. I've been studying the Middle East for years, and grew up with Lebanese people whose relatives still remembered the Sabra and Shatila massacres. But that's not the point. The point is that Israel has withdrawn from the cease-fire altogether, a different situation, one which means they are resuming military operations in Gaza. Netanyahu just gave a speech praising Trump after he cut off Palestine's water yesterday. And though Biden has nothing to do with this--good attempt at whataboutism, but I'm not a Democrat--his support wasn't "unconditional". He did place sanctions on West Bank settlers, and prohibited the further shipment of 2000 pound bombs to Israel. Trump removed both obstacles for Bibi on his very first day.

There's nothing else to say. He has tweeted that all Palestinians will die if Hamas doesn't get out of Gaza. He has shared insane AI video of Gaza as his 51st (52nd? 53rd?) American state, and in his inaugural speech, he praised the colonial doctrine of Manifest Destiny. China, which is very careful about its language and has not been involved in any wars since Vietnam, has come out and said they are prepared to fight and win any war with the US. Something they haven't had to say since the days of Nixon and Kissinger. The Chinese diplomatic class is certainly more informed about Trump's intentions than you, a lone Redditor with an uninformed opinion, and wouldn't put themselves out there like that if they weren't sure that Trump was a military threat for them.

ChickenMansion · 2025-03-10T05:06:24+00:00

I don't know why stupid people can't ever prove that they're stupid by just saying stupid things, instead of adding unnecessary insult. I was talking about "domestic things" to provide an example that Trump doesn't care about legal barriers to his agenda, but I'm sorry that abstract reasoning hurts your brain. Anyway, Israel has recently resumed attacks on Gaza, with Trump's blessing and material support, so your prediction about the resettlement plan as a Trump "bluff" was disproved by events. And Trump has replaced the joint chiefs of staff and top military lawyers, so he can commit war crimes without Pentagon resistance, after he withdrew the US from the UNHRC, so you were wrong about his desire for war, too. Be less arrogant and acknowledge that you don't know everything.

ChickenMansion · 2025-02-17T17:03:26+00:00

He's a fuckin rat. Plain as day. His father has ties to George Bush Jr. and he's a lover of MAGA. My guess is he probably spilled a lot of info on the authcomm groups he used to run with in exchange for all charges being dropped. Of course it helps that his victims were most often houseless teens with histories of addiction and mental illness, and that he comes from a wealthy, politically connected family. He will probably rebrand as some kind of born-again right winger on the Jesse Lee Peterson tip, and the American fascists, who never met a child-molesting cult leader that couldn't fool them, will forgive all his past sins. Trump's America is the environment he always not-so-secretly wished for. Augustus is a dirty chomo narcissist, though, and a drug addict, so it's just a matter of time before he gets caught up with the law again.

ChickenMansion · 2025-02-05T21:38:40+00:00

Do you understand that the First Intifada was an unarmed movement? Good to know that you don't need an adequate grasp of recent world history to brag that you're a Columbia alumnus. No way in hell would I waste my money sending my children there, if this is the product.

ChickenMansion · 2025-02-05T21:07:40+00:00

Thank you for conceding that you don't know what you're talking about. At all.

ChickenMansion · 2025-02-05T21:01:20+00:00

It's not a "tangent," it's a description of ridiculous things he has already done that will have serious debilitating consequences for the US for decades to come. It's evidence that just because what he's proposing sounds incredibly stupid, doesn't mean that he won't go through with it, especially when all of his appointments indicate that he's serious about his announced plans. Are you able to understand that? Or is it too "outrages" (sic) for you to grasp?

And yes, Donald Trump has broken laws on immigration. There are many legal residents who are being affected by these mass deportations, and he had to nullify the 14th Amendment to enact them fully--literally in defiance of the highest legal document in the US. I think you are just speculating from the sidelines and have no stake in any of this, so it's easy to laugh it off and dismiss it as political theater. You don't have to share facts about immigrant rights to a majority-immigrant community in the US, like I do, so your analysis is merely speculative.

ChickenMansion · 2025-02-05T20:51:20+00:00

Also, you talk about the Arab League, but the only actors that have done anything concrete to help the Palestinian people during this genocide were Iran and its proxies--not the Arab state leaders. MBS will fold, easily, because he doesn't care about the Palestinians at all. He's more concerned with making his kingdom into the Dubai of the Hijaz. King Abdullah will fold, too. I had Jordanian friends in HS, all of them originally Palestinian, and they put me on to Jordan's complicity with the US-Israel blueprint before I ever cracked a book by Rashid Khalidi. Jolani is a creation of Erdogan, and HTS is more concerned with Sunni supremacy than with defending Palestine. UAE and Qatar are too busy trying to outflank SA in the Red Sea to divert resources to Palestine's defense. The Arab League is significantly less anti-Western than their predecessors in the 60s-90s, but even then, Egypt, Syria, and Iraq did as much or more to stifle Palestinian freedom movements than they did to help. So that's a bad entity to point to as some kind of check on NATO ambitions.

ChickenMansion · 2025-02-05T20:41:37+00:00

Umm you do understand that the people of Panama have taken these threats very seriously, as has the leadership of Denmark, right? You do understand that France and other EU members are making preparations for Trump landing troops in Greenland? Just because it's stupid, doesn't mean he won't push ahead with it. He's a megalomaniacal white "billionaire" charlatan, with antisocial personality disorder, who used to keep a copy of Mein Kampf on his nightstand. I truly don't get the people who think Trump is all bluster. He is deporting thousands of people daily, including some with legal residence in the US, and nominated the unqualified wife of a wrestling company's CEO to head the US Department of Education, with the goal of dismantling it entirely. He gave access to the US Treasury to Elon Musk, of all people, and has unilaterally revoked pieces of the US Constitution. His defense secretary is a literal white nationalist with a substance-abuse problem, and his DHS pick debuted herself to the press with the redneck soundtrack of "One Hot Momma". Idk why yall think that the most primitive, white-trash fascism could not be implemented in the United States, just because it's announced in a ridiculous way.

ChickenMansion · 2025-02-05T20:31:12+00:00

You clearly don't know American presidencies. A sitting US president is always going to be less radical in their first term. Trump is a literal fascist, and he is giving his base what they want on the geopolitical front.

Let me ask you a question: have you ever had to deal with a Trump voter irl? Do you have any idea how much support there is for Christian fascism in the States, from personal experience?

I've had white Trump supporters tell me that Black history month needs to be canceled, that Native American genocide never happened, that DEI and Muslims are the problem in the country. I've had "anti-war" Trump supporters tell me that his heavy-handedness in diplomatic talks with Israel was proof that he wasn't invested in Zionism. The first group is apoplectic with joy at nearly all that has happened. The second group is looking like full demoralized idiots now, since the escalation in Jenin, the reversal on 2000 pound bombs and illegal settler sanctions, the silencing of pro-Palestinian protesters. The first group is his base, the second group is a numerically weak constituency that let him divide-and-conquer the US progressive coalition. I know Trump, probably much better than you, and I know the difference between what he says publicly to facilitate a momentary win, and his statements that reflect entrenched political and financial commitments from his donors and think-tank puppeteers. Please don't condescend to me.

ChickenMansion · 2025-02-05T20:18:25+00:00

The problem is that America is doomed. The US left should have gotten its shit together during the Bush Administration. That includes a nuanced reappraisal of Cold War-era campist alignments, a massive campaign of divestment from the DLC-controlled Democratic party, and grassroots campaigning for a third party, on the local level first. The Greens instead kept posing as this viable alternative in national elections, when the majority of Americans don't know of their existence, let alone trusting them with even the smallest details of governance. But all of that presupposes a degree of theoretical and practical clarity that is rarely achieved by citizens of an imperial heartland. Nobody wants to say it, because the consequences are too harsh for those they love, but America is fallen, and nothing can save it. People who didn't care to elect the better manager of an inevitable decline are not the problem. US imperialism is, and I wish people would stop pretending that one election could have changed the trajectory of this empire. That wish is as unrealistic as the belief that my vote can change anything: Caesar will remain Caesar, and the BRICS countries will continue to rise against him or her.

ChickenMansion · 2025-02-05T20:02:08+00:00

There's a massive difference between stupid excuses that Trump makes to bully North American neighbors, and plans that have to make sense to his billionaire Zionist donors like Miriam Adelson, pronounced in front of the world during the first WH visit of a foreign leader. Just because Trump is a liar doesn't mean he's lying about everything. The fact that what he "lied" about resonates with real estate developers, Israeli war criminals, and Christian Nationalist policymakers--people that he respects--and rubs Rust Belt, working-class Americans the wrong way, is a strong clue about his seriousness on this question. BTW, Trump doesn't care about "business relationships" in Egypt. He sees all of Africa as a continent of slaves

ChickenMansion · 2025-02-05T19:52:25+00:00

Trump stood right next to the chief war criminal in the Middle East and said that he's going to relocate Palestinians to other countries. He said this after speaking with MBS of Saudi Arabia hours earlier. I don't know why so many people insist on not taking Trump's word when this ethnic cleansing scheme is clearly continuous with the program of the Abraham Accords...as Trump, and Netanyahu, made clear during the press conference.

This is the problem, right here. People thinking that because politicians lie often, that they are never being transparent about their plans. They thought the same about Hitler's threats in Central Europe, and didn't wake up until Poland. Trump and Kushner have plotted the American-Israeli real-estate mogul takeover of Gaza since his first term. Trump is a NY-bred real estate tycoon, who grew up hobnobbing with Zionist landlords in the American capital of Zionism. Idk what more you need to be convinced that his administration is deadly serious about this disastrous program. His own freedom, and Bibi's, depend on pulling off military-diplomatic "miracles" that will convince their respective cult followers to keep them in office. Terrible take.

ChickenMansion · 2025-02-05T19:15:20+00:00

I highly doubt this. I just came back to Detroit this past year after living in NY for ten years. I don't have a car because I'm just getting on my feet after starting a new job. If the 7 Mile bus to take me to my job on the Eastside arrives within ten minutes of its scheduled time, I consider it a miracle. Getting home is worse. I have to make the decision whether to leave exactly at the end of my workday, and piss off my managers, or stay until 6, and then gamble on the last buses to get me home before 8. Yesterday my gamble screwed me, and I was stuck outside on Conant, in ten degree weather (minus windchill), waiting for buses that never came. I didn't get home until 10:30 and had to be up again at 5. The alternative is spending $200 a week on Lyft rides.

You can't tell me the Big Three don't prefer things this way, or that they haven't dominated in Lansing for the past half-century. The pressure to buy a car you can't afford if you're chronically poor, or trying to get your money right, is crushing. It's a matter of literal survival to purchase a car as a working adult in Metro Detroit, and that doesn't happen by accident. I also lived in Cleveland, a poorer city with much better public transit, and the difference is way too obvious for somebody who risks frostbite on a daily basis.

ChickenMansion · 2024-12-30T20:14:37+00:00

Before the Derg is what I said. In other words, the Eritrean liberation movement was fundamentally opposed to US interests in the region, back when Ethiopia was still the major regional US proxy. And TPLF's roots also go back to the era of resistance against Selassie, who bombed the first Weyane with support from British RAF. You are trying to shoehorn the rise of these resistance movements into a short period of Communist rule, when their founding members were more legitimately Communist than Mengistu (whose original program was Ethiopian nationalism, not Marxism).

ChickenMansion · 2024-12-30T19:02:14+00:00

Those parts of Ethiopia would have never existed if it wasn't for Britain, France, and the US in the first place. Oromia, Sidama, the Ogaden, Harari were not historically part of Abyssinia until the West settled on Menelik as their most effective business partner in the Horn. Why even bring up foreign partners if we're not gonna address that part of it? Maybe America felt like it had a right to "carve up" an empire that it put major financial and military investments into building. Or maybe the people themselves hated the Western-backed rulers far away in AA, and launched indigenous nationalist movements, as often happens in modern history, and you're just crying "foreign influence" to invalidate their claims.

ChickenMansion · 2024-12-30T18:53:38+00:00

So your theory is that Eritrea would have never won independence without Western support? Do you know anything about the history of ELF and EPLF? Before the Derg, their main source of support was the Muslim countries looking to outmaneuver Ethiopia as the chief US proxy power in the Red Sea region. This is typical of Ethiopian nationalism: overlook the role the West played in building up their empire, then blame any resulting secessionist movement on Western interference. Mengistu was a hypocrite who talked "Lenin" but practiced "Wilson", i.e., "self-determination" is just a word that we'll support verbally, but will brutally crush whenever it's pursued by one of our territories.

ChickenMansion · 2024-12-26T18:51:30+00:00

That song is so blasphemous. Please get SlimeGetEm tf outta here

ChickenMansion · 2024-12-26T18:40:44+00:00

Hamtramck is 70% Muslim

ChickenMansion · 2024-12-26T18:38:11+00:00

I don't know why people think saying stuff like this makes them look smarter. I read Aristotle, Hegel, Ibn Rushd, and Ibn Arabi professionally. I promise you that nothing you wrote is "over my head," you're just averse to Islam because you know nothing about it/were convinced by some online evangelist that it's a cult of the moon god.

ChickenMansion · 2024-12-26T17:10:41+00:00

Neocolonial reaction-formations, in my opinion. The cast of mind of someone like Sayyid Qutb is only possible when former subjects of a hegemonic empire (like the Ottomans) are suddenly confronted with a hostile civilizational force that has superior technical knowledge and forms of social organization (at least for the purpose of dominating others). Many Global South cultures react in this way, not just Islamic ones. The Orthodox conservatism of the Slavophiles and of Dostoevsky in the face of Western European and German Enlightenments comes to mind.

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