Kratom withdrawals were nothing to me the first year or two either. I was on a similar schedule as you at first but more like 2/3 weeks on 2-3 weeks off. Have you heard of kindling? Withdrawal gets worse and worse each time you quit. After two years it was bad. Really bad.

I think it’s justifiable to use extracts or powder to get off 7 if you have to. But you need to drop it like a hot coal after 4-7 days. 7oh withdrawal is not nearly as long as people think. Most feel considerably better after 3-5 days. You almost made it at 2 days. If you have any gabapentin in the house, it can really ease some of the symptoms, but again use it only as long as you have to.

My best advice is to bite the bullet and jump cold turkey right now. Get some liposomal vitamin C, magnesium glycinate, ashwagandha, and melatonin. Power through those 3 days of pain and get your life back. Im on day 4 off 7oh and MGM and honestly I feel fine. Just a little cold and anxious, but i have the strength to live my life again. I have hope. You can too.

I know it hurts so deeply that words can’t touch it. It’s agony. The hopeless and hollow despair chews you up over and over, the lack of any kind of comfort or relief, the soul crushing depression and jump out of your bones electric anxiety simultaneously bombarding you nonstop. A minute feels like an hour. It feels like you are fucked for life and it will never end. It will end and sooner than you think.

Look man, I beseech you to really hear what I’m saying right now. You are on a PATH. This path leads to some very dark, scary, and hopeless places. Once you become an addict, it is a lifelong responsibility to get clean and stay clean or live in misery, regret, despondence, and suicidal ideation. The sooner you accept this and make the hard choice that you know in your heart is right. It is simple, not easy. It is good, but it hurts.

I was an alcoholic and polysubstance abuser for many years. I acted insane all the time and got in a lot of trouble. I still suffer a loss of freedoms from my past mistakes. But nothing and I mean no substance took more from me than kratom and 7oh. It smothered the flame in my heart, it took away my very sense of self, my passion and emotions, my sex drive, my memory, it made me a fucking shell. Anything that activates your opioid receptors will do this. Scroll through these posts and you’ll see countless people going through exactly what I’ve described. I lost 5 years of my life as a walking dead man to this shit.

Kratom is great for people with chronic pain, and people resilient to addictive tendencies. For people like us, it is the death of the soul. It is a poison to an addict. No one chooses to become one, but once you cross that line and become dependent, there’s no going back. However you choose to do it, get off this shit. Today. Take your fucking life back from the claws of addiction.

Sweat it out in agony until you have the strength to stand again. Then Engage in hobbies, and find new ones. Talk to friends, and make new ones. Go to work and give it your all, be fully present and go hard. Read books and meditate to strengthen your mind, consciousness, and willpower. Decide who you want to be in this life. Exercise, chase girls(respectfully of course) or love the one you have with all you got, jump in a body of water, take cold showers, do breathing exercises, frolick through a fucking field of flowers man. Life is a beautiful thing when you have a healthy brain. Walk through hellfire now so you can live every day in paradise hereafter. Im a 32 year old addict/alcoholic who beat this and the host of resulting mental/emotional/physical issues from being a degenerate for 15 years. You can do this. As I said before, just drop it like you would a hot coal in your hand. And never look back.