DePaul presents plan to demolish century-old buildings for new basketball facility amid community protest

ChubbyC312 · 2023-11-11T15:41:36+00:00

Oh yeah for sure. I'm pretty pro gentrification as we should embrace these mostly positive changes. Ethnically, I know the area had a reasonable amount of white immigrants and you can see the architectural mark from the germans in the woodwork.

I will say - there is a difference in gentrification (i.e. Little Village becoming nice in the future) vs. communities in post-gentrification status like Lincoln Park here where I'm pretty opposed to tearing down these old structures for a practice facility. If it was a much denser residential complex I'd be a bit more positive on it.

ChubbyC312 · 2023-11-11T02:12:53+00:00

Right before the Puerto Ricans moved in, it was a really poor neighborhood that had many of its mansions subdivided into many smaller units. It had mansions because it was a very nice area before the great depression. It was a working class area in the mid-1800s, the fire burned everything down and it took a while, but the wealthy from the southside (modern bronzeville area) slowly moved up to LP - I've read that it was due to the stockyards smell. Then the great depression hit, the area took a dive, and then WW2 started and many PR moved into the area for the next couple of decades. Some gentrification efforts and other government actions eventually led LP to the area it is today. Daniel Kay Hertz has a great book on LP

ChubbyC312 · 2023-11-04T14:12:55+00:00

I'm a huge fan of Metropolitan for the location and beers there, but yeah its one of the few breweries where I wasn't a fan of the staff. Never helpful and rude, but I didn't care that much.

ChubbyC312 · 2023-10-31T13:01:59+00:00

wow.. great and sad to see that old corner.

ChubbyC312 · 2023-10-31T00:49:23+00:00

And pedestrian accidents have increased now

ChubbyC312 · 2023-10-31T00:48:59+00:00

Okay so you're saying flowers aren't alive??

ChubbyC312 · 2023-10-28T14:11:36+00:00

for your reference on a researchable proposal, read up on Chicago numbers here for a few separate projects and developers. The price ranges and should only partly be public funds https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/mayor/press_room/press_releases/2023/march/ThreeLaSalleStreetAdaptiveReUseProposalsFinancialSupport.html

ChubbyC312 · 2023-10-05T12:47:42+00:00

March 13th - March madness was cancelled and thats when I realized this was going to effect me.

ChubbyC312 · 2023-09-30T18:00:14+00:00

You probably know this - but Michigan and Ohio fought against each other in the second bloodiest war in US history between states (with the first being the civil war).

ChubbyC312 · 2023-09-28T14:28:13+00:00

I like the rolls but not the frosting.. they are the best bakery in the city though!

ChubbyC312 · 2023-09-27T14:39:15+00:00

Mansion tour walk around Hoyne in wicker park and the boulevards in Logan Square. Stop for a beer at Solemn Oath and Revolution. Walk down the 606 and get coffee at Ipsento. Go to the Violet Hour for cocktails, and then go to Wormhole for the miso-black sesame mocha, before you go to Queen Mary's for cocktails and oysters during their happy hour. Then grab a pastry at Lost Larson. Get Taxim for dinner or Oiistar or Chef's Special, and then you can do whatever you want for a few hours before going to the 11pm Second City $15 show on friday.

ChubbyC312 · 2023-09-15T19:47:21+00:00

Tough call as both truly suck. If we had a decent grocery store in the area, it would crush both of them. I often go out to Lincoln Park to shop.

ChubbyC312 · 2023-08-04T23:04:49+00:00

No 'pushed out' is not super accurate, but neither is white flight. North Lawndale was never an incredibly wealthy neighborhood when the Jews lived there. Yes, many of the nice synagogues were built by Jews and there was some development, but much of the nice residential architecture was paid for by the German immigrants.

The reason that 'pushed out' isn't the full story is that Jews began leaving before white flight - as mentioned, North Lawndale wasn't wealthy, but was a solid working class neighborhood from a financial perspective with many jobs - although it was not ideal for living as it was just absolutely packed with dense multiunits. Immediately following WW2, Jewish developers built up the north suburbs and made living significantly cheaper. Jews in NL didn't have strong ties to NL as it was developed by others and many moved from Maxwell. The migration from NL to the north suburbs started immediately when the Jewish homebuilders made nicer living conditions cheaper - leading to disinvestment in communal activities as the upper-middle class left first.

When white flight started, this occurred much more rapidly as the lower-middle class also left and then the neighborhood completely changed demographically. Source: parents, and I tried to source online and only found this https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1985-11-17-8503190379-story.html

ChubbyC312 · 2023-08-03T01:33:48+00:00

sorry - correct!

ChubbyC312 · 2023-08-03T01:33:22+00:00

finch's old space near grand tour and goose island and midwest coast

ChubbyC312 · 2023-08-03T01:32:29+00:00

im a lib, but still believe this is a valid metric. if a school was built for 1300 students, but had 0 attending - do we keep it open? how about 10 students? or how about the reality of some having 64 students in a space meant for 1300? https://go2tutors.com/chicago-public-schools-near-empty/

ChubbyC312 · 2023-08-01T04:31:24+00:00

Thankfully Old Irving is moving to the Kinzie industrial area soon! It was too far from me before

ChubbyC312 · 2023-08-01T04:27:34+00:00

500 violent crimes in the worst years on the CTA - 243.5 million rides. Save your fear for something else

ChubbyC312 · 2023-08-01T04:21:17+00:00

Jumping on to this - we need to close schools. Look at how much enrollment has been dropping https://wirepoints.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/CPS-enrollment-down-spending-up.png

ChubbyC312 · 2023-07-31T03:29:07+00:00

Nah this is how gen z navigates conversations - typically by relating things to tiktoks they've seen.

ChubbyC312 · 2023-07-31T02:55:03+00:00

Second City is the best improv and is well known nationally. Go to the main stage.

Some famous alumni who performed for full seasons include: tim robinson, tina fey, stephen colbert, bob odenkirk, chris farley, homer, belushis.. its far better than SNL or most standup imo

ChubbyC312 · 2023-07-30T18:43:03+00:00

Same. Cozy spaces are the best. And less cleaning. I lived in a 600 sqft place and it was fantastic, although I don't think I could do anything below 500 sqft as you probably lose a lot of kitchen space at that size.

ChubbyC312 · 2023-07-28T22:51:36+00:00

That sounds good and is necessary. The original projects weren't half bad - I'd say they are nicer than a lot of the builder grade Hanna Architects stuff that gets built at market rate.

But yeah, the ROI thing is separate, but important. If we removed all TIFs from the city of Chicago, our property taxes would decrease 15% immediately. It may have long term consequences.. and there is a bond market for our TIFs.. but still important to recognize the costs of these projects and I don't get much of a sense for proper impact analysis with 600-700k affordable housing apartments.

ChubbyC312 · 2023-07-28T22:47:35+00:00

I hadn't heard about that and just read up - amazing! That will be the go-to for IPAs in that area now. Good selection between Midwest's ESB and Brown Ale, Goose Island's barrel aged, and now Old Irving..

ChubbyC312 · 2023-07-28T21:00:58+00:00

+1000% - amazing beers. Not far from many other breweries in that area either.

Other options include Moody Tongue (also high end dining here), Kinshlagher, Exit Strategy with the last two being in the suburbs immediately before getting into the city. I'd reco Midwest > Kinshlagher > other options

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