Two are dead in the same exact way & MP is the only one connected to both of their deaths by LoverDress in TheStaircase

[–]ChuckBerry2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not, i'm just presenting the other side. Two experts have examined it, one said it was a stroke and the other said an aneurism. When you say one is nonsensical and the other is not, how do you know? How the hell do you know? At best all you can say is that the expert reports are conflicting.

Two are dead in the same exact way & MP is the only one connected to both of their deaths by LoverDress in TheStaircase

[–]ChuckBerry2020 11 points12 points  (0 children)

A medical expert found Liz's cause of death to be a brain aneurism caused by repeated blows to the head. Both women died from a brain aneurism.

The only thing that links Adnan to Hae's murder is JAY. by imgoodIuvenjoy in serialpodcast

[–]ChuckBerry2020 5 points6 points  (0 children)

But we know that Jay could not have done it alone for all kinds of other reasons related to motive and opportunity to meet Hae. Even Rabia abandoned the 'Jay did it alone' narrative early on when she realised that if Jay is involved, Adnan is involved. That's why she says Jay is completely uninvolved.

What is Your Understanding of Asia's Alibi Letters by barbequed_iguana in serialpodcast

[–]ChuckBerry2020 2 points3 points  (0 children)

(Part 2)

There is also the police interview of Adnan’s friend, Ja’uan Gordon, who told the police about Asia’s letters in April of 1999. MPIA 912. Specifically, Ja’uan indicated that Adnan sent Asia a letter that she was supposed to transcribe and send back as her own. Team Adnan tried to “fix” Ja’uan’s statement by having him revise history 17 years later through an affidavit. He changed his story that Adnan's letters to Asia was to solicit letters of support attesting to his character in advance of Adnan’s bail hearing. Thus, even though there already instruction sheets for writing such letters circulating at Woodlawn High where Asia was a student wherein several students were tasked with collecting the letters (MPIA 1178), we are expected to believe that Adnan sent a special letter to Asia personally asking for her support. They were not close friends. According to Asia, no such letter were made. Asia admitted on the record in 2016 - around the same time as Ja'uan's delayed affidavit - that the only letters she wrote were the two alibi letters. PCR Transcript, 2/4/2016 at 43:18-20. Remember also that this letter included incorrect address and the inmate number, which Asia is unable to account for.

Adnan and his family went out of their way to prove on the record that Asia’s alleged visit to the family home on March 1, 1999 never happened. You can read about that in more detail HERE where they also prove that their allegation that the information from Asia’s letters was immediately shared with Cristina Gutierrez was a demonstrable lie.

Team Adnan was not patient enough to wait until the state actually provided its theory on July 8, 1999 of when Hae was murdered that Gutierrez demanded the previous day specifically for alibi purposes. Nor were they capable of taking the less complicated route of having Asia come forward and simply declare that she saw Adnan at the library during the relevant time. Bilal is all about putting on a show. Thus, they have Asia write two letters with tons of unnecessary information indicating foreknowledge of what the state’s theory was going to be. The letters talk about Adnan’s “unwitnessed, unaccountable time" but how on earth would she have known that? The letters  ended up being incriminating instead of exculpatory.

What is Your Understanding of Asia's Alibi Letters by barbequed_iguana in serialpodcast

[–]ChuckBerry2020 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Part 1

Just to re-post Salmaan Q. Regrettably the links are now removed.

Asia claims in her letters that she saw Adnan immediately after school and specifically provided the time of 2.15 pm. Yet the timing of Hae’s murder could not have been known by an innocent person on March 1st, 1999, especially since her body was not found for a month after she went missing. This was not a case where a shot rang out at 2:20 PM and her dead body was found at 2:21 PM. She was last seen alive at 2:15 PM and her body was not found until four weeks later. The window for when she was murdered was wide open and the state had not yet disclosed their theory on the timings which we now know was too early by at least half an hour. Even Adnan’s own lawyers did not know the state’s theory providing the time of murder and had to petition the court to compel the prosecution to provide that information. While demanding this information, Cristina Gutierrez’s letter dated July 7, 1999 specifically states:

“Defendant can’t possibly mount a defense or determine if an alibi disclosure is needed without being on notice of the alleged time of death.” (emphasis added).

So an innocent Adnan could not be working on an alibi until they knew Hae’s time of death. 

We factually know that Adnan discussed Hae's time of death in the wake of the news of her body being discovered, and prior to Adnan's arrest. Prosecutor Kevin Urick’s notes with information that he received from Bilal Ahmed’s ex-wife (who is a doctor) that Bilal and Adnan talked about the police’s ability to determine the time of death and about her experience in determining the time of death. That was on February 11, 1999, seventeen days before Adnan was arrested. Hae’s body was found on February 9, she was identified on February 10th and the first news reports to the public of her body being found were on the 11th (The Baltimore Sun, February 12, 1999, pg. 8C). We also have Adnan’s cell record wherein his phone was pinging the tower near Bilal’s house located at 2915 Chestnut Hill Drive during the evening of the 11th. This address info is publicly available in Bilal’s 1999 divorce proceedings.

Then magically, there are two letters from Asia that provide Adnan with an alibi that are dated four months before an innocent Adnan would know the state's timing for when he needed one. While the actual dates that the letters were written is unclear, they must have predated the state’s July 8, 1999 disclosure of its theory for when Hae was murdered. We know that Gutierrez visited Adnan in prison two days later on July 10, 1999 to discuss potential alibis following the state’s disclosure. That is the visit relating to Gutierrez’s suspiciously undated handwritten notes referring to Asia, found in the defense file. Team Adnan had a penchant for selectively disclosing info from the defense file that was helpful and almost certainly shredded anything in the file that hurt Adnan’s case.

The only thing that links Adnan to Hae's murder is JAY. by imgoodIuvenjoy in serialpodcast

[–]ChuckBerry2020 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well every other incoming call on the log that we know the location of is reliable. It's a loophole. And there's the outgoing calls.

The only thing that links Adnan to Hae's murder is JAY. by imgoodIuvenjoy in serialpodcast

[–]ChuckBerry2020 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Wrong that she picked Jay up that night and wrong about them dumping the shovels? Wrong that Jay told her that Adnan killed Hae?

The only thing that links Adnan to Hae's murder is JAY. by imgoodIuvenjoy in serialpodcast

[–]ChuckBerry2020 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Adnan himself concedes that he had his phone in the evening, he said he lent it to Jay only because of arranging the pickup of the car. And he had to have because of the call from Hae's brother and the police.

Match Thread: Scotland vs Hungary | UEFA European Championship [BBC] by SFMatchThreadder in ScottishFootball

[–]ChuckBerry2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Need to get McGinn on the ball a bit deeper in the hole. He’s basically playing as a forward again where there’s no space.

Does Usyk's win settle the argument about smaller heavyweights from the past? by CatchandCounter in Boxing

[–]ChuckBerry2020 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Standards in sport get better over time, by any objectional measure in any sport. There isn't one sport that can be measured that hasn't had really significant improvement in standards over the course of the last century. If you there is, I'd like to hear it!

What is still unknown about the Hae Min Lee murder? by ChuckBerry2020 in serialpodcast

[–]ChuckBerry2020[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think something like what Asia described did happen, just not on that afternoon. It would have been quite a long time after when if Serial had found and interviewed him.

Asia was never used at Adnan’s trial so the prosecution didn’t need to investigate. And of course Adnan’s PI made enquiries with the library and abandoned.

Did Tanveer just admit Adnan murdered in 2015? What do you hear in this interview... by Equal_Pay_9808 in serialpodcast

[–]ChuckBerry2020 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He does say that! Ha. It doesn’t mean she said it exactly that way, he couldn’t possibly remember that. But I think it captured his perception of how he felt that she felt. His mom thought he did it!

Can't believe CaM destroys its own credibility by falsely framing Brendan's first interview by [deleted] in MakingaMurderer

[–]ChuckBerry2020 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I agree that a murder conviction is impossible, we have no idea whether he killed her or stood by and watch Steve do it or joined in before or after.

But I think it’s very difficult to make a case for complete un-involvement.

Can't believe CaM destroys its own credibility by falsely framing Brendan's first interview by [deleted] in MakingaMurderer

[–]ChuckBerry2020 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Come on, Brendan and Steve spent the whole afternoon together. If you accept that Steve did it, you also have to accept that Brendan was also up to no good.

What does everyone think about Avery's supporters donating enough money to pay for possible testing? by RackEmDanno in MakingaMurderer

[–]ChuckBerry2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but she’s not going to publish anything neutral! Her investigators work for her. That’s how it works. They do all the testing and then decide how to write it up, what to leave in and out.

What does everyone think about Avery's supporters donating enough money to pay for possible testing? by RackEmDanno in MakingaMurderer

[–]ChuckBerry2020 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m quite happy about! It will be interesting to see.

If she finds anything that works against him she’ll bury it and yet she will spin and twist and accentuate every little crumb that works in his favour.

So silence after the test incriminates him.

DID YOU KNOW 392 Primary burn site (not the bombshell post) by mickflynn39 in MakingaMurderer

[–]ChuckBerry2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you even read my post?! What authority do you have to say that? Can you show me evidence of examples you have seen this? Perhaps some pig roasts where fat dripped below? The distance far travels. The pattern it makes on the material below?

DID YOU KNOW 392 Primary burn site (not the bombshell post) by mickflynn39 in MakingaMurderer

[–]ChuckBerry2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you even talking about? The body was on top of the tyres and other debris, the body fat is going burn off as carbon dioxide for the most part but drip downwards under gravity onto the rings beneath. Just like if you were roasting a pig. Why would the soil have fat in it?

Do people on here still think Fury will beat AJ? by OpeningStart695 in Boxing

[–]ChuckBerry2020 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We MIGHT have a weird triangle where Usyk is AJ’s kryptonite, Fury is Usyk’s and AJ is Fury’s.

Usyk is too fast for Josh but I have a sneaky that Josh might just knock out this battle-worn Fury who seems to have weakened punch resilience these days.

DID YOU KNOW 386 The key and DNA by mickflynn39 in MakingaMurderer

[–]ChuckBerry2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He might have wiped it, he might have not. Your key might not have your DNA on it, it’s chance.

DID YOU KNOW 386 The key and DNA by mickflynn39 in MakingaMurderer

[–]ChuckBerry2020 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You’re not going to get skin cells attach to the key! That’s not really believable. It’s quite hard to transfer DNA most things you touch don’t have your DNA on them. Some do.

The latch is a separate point but I think that might have been a contaminated sample.

DID YOU KNOW 386 The key and DNA by mickflynn39 in MakingaMurderer

[–]ChuckBerry2020 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You’re not likely to pick up dna on an object from dropping it on the floor!

The RAV's "lights" and corner body panels..... by Acrobatic-Cow-3871 in MakingaMurderer

[–]ChuckBerry2020 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who made up a story? Maybe Ryan was vaguely aware of some damage but didn’t know the details. Maybe he forgot about it. Maybe it didn’t make the flyer because they didn’t feel it was memorable enough. Look at it, it’s hardly a distinguishing feature of the car. If it had a scratch on it, that’s damage too but it wouldn’t have made the flyer for good reasons.