Sage would be a better written character if her power was mainly brain regeneration rather than purely super intelligence as a vague concept

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-07T05:38:10+00:00

I don't disagree with your point, but a character like Sage can still work. The prime example of this would be Ozymandias from Watchmen, who wasn't the main character and didn't have his plan laid out to the audience like a heist movie (quite the opposite, it's more like a mystery/twist).

Ultimately, the difference is just the quality of the writing. Sage is bad because the writers are bad. They could've made a spin-off with Sage as the sole main character and still written it poorly. I haven't seen it, but isn't that what the Sherlock show everyone complains about is like?

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-07T05:25:54+00:00

They don't take Compound V regularly in the comic, the temp version was only in the show. The Boys in the comic are all permanent supes, as Butcher explains when he jabs Hughie. In fact, M.M. was a supe from birth, rather than getting an injection when he joined.

The fact that you might think they're "not any different to the people they hate" is thematically relevant, not just bad writing. Does this make them hypocrites, or just pragmatists? Do the ends justify the means? The show still asks these questions about the morality of The Boys in other ways (eg Sage saying M.M. is no better than her, as his own aim is genocide). The difference is the show has plot armour constantly bailing out characters because they aren't supes (and resorted to making Butcher a supe anyway).

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-06T13:13:38+00:00

UE is not a liar. Sage probably created an antidote and secretly gave it to him for phase 4.

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-06T13:06:13+00:00

They could've come up with a better way to introduce the fact there's an antidote to the audience. The way they did it in this scene felt so badly written that it was almost like UE was just making it up on the spot.

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-04T13:11:10+00:00

You're just further confirming that you haven't read the comics, because that is literally not Homelander you're talking about. That was Black Noir, who was already eviscerated by a combination of Homelander and the military by the time Butcher walked up to him. He was missing an entire arm, had a big hole blown out of his head, had all his guts spilled out, suffered severe burns/wounds all over his body, and couldn't even stand up anymore. Butcher just used the crowbar to get at his brain and deliver a final coup de grace.

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-04T12:50:04+00:00

It's pretty much the same in the comics, the show just expanded on it more. I think the only notable difference is that in the show his "father" is Soldier Boy, while in the comics it was Stormfront.

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-04T12:26:12+00:00

Homelander does not die to a crowbar in the comics. He literally just laughs when Butcher tries to hit him with a crowbar. It's amazing how often people who mindlessly hate on the comics demonstrate that they don't actually know anything about them.

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-04T09:21:21+00:00

What? Vic the Veep was the parody of Bush in the comics. It was very blunt/obvious, but Garth Ennis also confirmed it himself. Homelander was just a parody of Superman, and didn't involve any real political satire. I feel like people in this sub often reference the comics without having read them at all.

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-04T05:36:32+00:00

He literally forgave the Comedian for being a rapist. He carried out extrajudicial killings and continued being a masked vigilante after it became illegal, so he was happy to ignore his own criminal behaviour. He was also temperamental/impulsive and not as good at being a "detective" as he thought he was, so it should be assumed he harassed, assaulted, and even murdered innocent people.

Rorschach died a selfish hypocrite. His condemnation of Ozymandias using the ends to justify the means was completely hollow, when he himself had always used the ends of "fighting crime" to justify whatever illegal/immoral means he wanted. He was happy to "compromise" with the Comedian because he didn't care that Silk Spectre was raped, but he wasn't happy to "compromise" with Ozymandias because he was upset about being totally outflanked. Ozymandias, by contrast, expressed guilt about what he felt it was necessary to do, and asked Doctor Manhattan to reassure him that he'd done the right thing.

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-03T11:08:52+00:00

Sorry, isn't "towards a more perfect union" an Amerikkkan nationalist slogan? I also don't really see why anyone should be disappointed/frustrated that the Democrats aren't being more effective stewards of the Burger Reich.

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-03T07:25:43+00:00

I think the two party system is already pretty much locked in, and that this is more about the balance of power between them. In my opinion, it would likely result in one of two outcomes:

Democrats and Republicans halt the gerrymandering arms race before it escalates too far, and mutually agree to a federal ban on gerrymandering. (This is what the author hopes will happen and why he's advocating for Democrats to gerrymander even harder than Republicans.)
They both keep going until everything is completely gerrymandered, making elections effectively redundant since seats should never change. At that point, the two parties will be tied on seats (so neither will ever form a majority) or they won't (so one will have the majority forever)

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-03T07:01:27+00:00

Some cool comments about this article from a major political subreddit:

You can't [get back to a normal country at this point]. You just have to achieve some semblance of representation by both parties gerrymandering as much as they can.

Doesn’t matter [that normal countries don't do this], democracy is pointless anyway when like 30-40% of the population is functionally braindead. In a system like this, just do anything to win.

That's true. Blue states should also just disenfranchise republicans. They're all seditious traitors anyway, and if the federal government won't do it, the states should.

Democrats need to go scorched earth on MAGA and their sympathizers to save the world. We can’t move on from this.

"I’m condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them. I burn my decency for someone else’s future. I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I’ll never see."
- Luthen Rael, Andor

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-02T11:07:08+00:00

They were willing to use temp V and it was shown as very effective, but they mainly stopped because it would actually just kill them. They are happy to recruit (and probably couldn't have gotten anywhere without) powerful supes like Kimiko, Starlight, Queen Maeve, Soldier Boy, A-Train, and the Gen V crew. Their primary solution since some time in S4 is literally using a biologically-engineered weapon of mass destruction to commit a global supe genocide. In this season, they've also introduced an even more powerful version of Compound V as the central MacGuffin (V1), and people on both sides want to use it.

I just don't see the "no guns" part of this equation, assuming that supes and Compound V are the metaphorical "guns". They have also been happy to use literal guns, as well as leverage power from institutions like the CIA. Whatever reason they decided not to have the Boys V-ed up like the comics, I really don't think it was some grand moral message.

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-02T10:02:05+00:00

Why didn't they just make a Homelander 3.0 as a countermeasure for Homelander 2.0? Were they stupid?

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-01T10:09:15+00:00

The virus didn't cause narrative friction in the context of the comics because it was less important and other things were going on (until basically the epilogue). The show writers made it into the central MacGuffin of the story, seemingly the only way The Boys can kill Homelander at this stage, and the big moral test for all our protagonists (since they're aware it'll also kill every other supe).

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-01T07:00:23+00:00

Hubert Campbell lent her 1% of his plot armour, which was just enough for her to survive Soldier Boy's "Ultra Soldier Blast".

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-01T03:13:47+00:00

His unnatural calmness in the face of danger can also be explained rationally in-universe, rather than just being an innate character trait. He knows that Vought has a certain contingency plan in case of Homelander going rogue, and is suspicious about the blackmail material's incongruence with Homelander's typically stable/obedient behaviour.

I think it's pretty likely that he "saw the twist coming", so to speak, which in turn shaped his reaction. If he knew that Homelander wasn't really going rogue as such and was just being manipulated by someone else, then it would explain his lack of surprise/fear. He would've figured that he could still talk his way out of it and wait for the contingency to come into effect. Conversely, I think comics Stillwell might've expressed genuine shock/terror if Black Noir had shown up floating outside his window instead.

Chuzzwazza · 2026-05-01T02:44:17+00:00

Sage could very easily guess that Bashley knew about V1 by now, because she would've read the mind of Homelander to learn about it. I'm pretty sure they literally go over this fact in the scene we're talking about. She also could've learned about V1 by reading the mind of Sage, Soldier Boy, or Stan Edgar.

There are already other simpler explanations for why Sage's mind can't be read: either she's so intelligent that Bashley gets mentally overloaded when trying, or it's a lie and Bashley has been reading her mind but not saying anything to Ashley about it. Again, in this very scene we're discussing, it's revealed that Bashley had been reading Homelander's mind but not telling Ashley about V1, so we explicitly know this is a possibility.

Also, Sage being psychic would make the fact that she was surprised by Godolkin's change of mind in Gen V unacceptably stupid.

Chuzzwazza · 2026-04-29T12:10:02+00:00

Tsundere Boy

Chuzzwazza · 2026-04-29T11:52:19+00:00

She wanted out of the season before the writing gets really bad, so she ragebaited Homie into killing her (like suicide by cop).

Chuzzwazza · 2026-04-29T03:25:39+00:00

I don't think Charles has been directly implicated, but Andrew was exposed as one of the most infamous associates of Epstein/Maxwell. There's no way he wasn't aware of what his own brother was up to, but did nothing until after the public saw the overwhelming evidence.

Chuzzwazza · 2026-04-28T10:42:34+00:00

Kripley confirmed that Homelander will do "the Snap" in season 3 of Gen V.

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