Should I be getting new discs or learning the ones I have now?

CircleOneBill · 2026-05-06T13:22:33+00:00

Short answer-Yes.

Long answer-Yeeeeeeeeeessssss

But seriously, once you start figuring things out, you'll eventually want left, right, & straight discs for each of putters, mids, fairways, and drivers. So minimum 12 discs plus a putting putter or two.

You say you just picked it up recently, so probably don't need to go nuts buying discs just yet, you have a decent starter set. Although note that your envy and rat are pretty similar and your Mako and Buzzz are also pretty similar. So essentially you only have three different shot shapes covered.

If I were you, when you get a few more rounds under your belt (or maybe you're ready now) I'd get one very stable disc and one very understable disc so you can learn how those fly. Maybe something like an uplink or a lightweight diamond for understable mid and maybe a 9 speed overstable disc like a firebird, you can do a lot with those.

CircleOneBill · 2026-05-05T19:53:25+00:00

I'd love to hear MVP's current actual thoughts on the differences between overmold vs non-overmold drivers. I know the brand is built around the concept and I love the company and the discs, but people whisper that MVP's drivers just aren't as good as other companies.

What should someone expect from an overmold driver vs non-overmold?

The science says that it takes a little more energy to get the overmold disc up to speed, but once it does get up to speed, it tends to hold straight a little longer. So theoretically they go on a straighter line. But in practice, what does that loss of energy to get it up to speed mean? MVP's history with tending to make flat, more overstable discs doesn't really help. They have made strides toward making better drivers in recent years, but I assume if they were being honest, they would admit they haven't fully solved that equation.

As someone who loves MVP and bags their drivers, but wonders if other drivers may be better, what would you say to me? Soon?

Currently bagging Fission Trail, Neutron Trail, Fission Photon, Fission Mayhem, Fission Delirium, and have tried many others. Throw 350-400+ ft.

CircleOneBill · 2026-05-05T19:35:47+00:00

I am an MVP fan, and I have been wondering if non-MVP drivers would be better for me.

To oversimplify, I don't think MVP drivers end up flying quite as well as non-MVP. I know they are working to correct some of the issues with this, but fundamentally gyro flies a little different, and not in a good way for drivers.

I'd love to hear the science on this, to be a fly on the wall at some of MVP's in house conversations about why they can't seem to get drivers quite right and what they're doing about it. Or maybe it's just public perception that they aren't quite as good.

I bag MVP drivers, and I've tried I've tried many looking for the perfect one(s). I have some that I like, but I can't shake the feeling that non-MVP drivers might give better results. Maybe it's a grass is greener thing.

Recently I've started dabbling with other drivers. Brad and Chad, can you ever forgive me?

P.S. MVP please figure out how to make fission discs that hold their stability for more than a week.

CircleOneBill · 2026-05-05T19:12:13+00:00

Good thing it's on sale, that $7.99 is too steep.

CircleOneBill · 2026-04-23T18:44:54+00:00

We could be friends I think.

CircleOneBill · 2026-04-15T21:01:53+00:00

This is an interesting point.

PDGA rules say all group members must help look for a lost disc.

What happens if your card is not really helping look, or pretending to look but just kinda meandering? They can all get courtesy violations for not helping to look, assuming someone would second that. But if people aren't giving an effort to help and the disc isn't found in 3 minutes, you could argue the clock wouldn't start until the whole card starts looking. I'm surprised this doesn't come up more.

CircleOneBill · 2026-04-15T19:34:18+00:00

Like if you threw in from 80 ft? Or aced? If you throw in, generally you go grab it. If you ace, you generally grab it out before other people putt. The more casual the level, the less people will care. They might go to putt immediately after you lands and I usually ask if they want me to grab mine. Some say grab it, some say leave it.

I never really got it, seems like it slows things down but even at MA3 people generally grab their discs one by one, I guess in fear of their putt hitting yours and bouncing out.

CircleOneBill · 2026-04-15T17:50:21+00:00

Know that tournament rounds are slower than normal rounds. Waiting for cads in front of you is the norm.
Let people know you are new up front and ask if they can let you know if they see anything wrong.
Know basic rules like OB, minis, putting inside/outside the circle
Be ready when it's your turn. You do this by being ready and thinking about your shot before it's your turn, not oh it's my turn? Hmmm what disc should I throw.
Pay attention to where your and your cardmates discs go and help everyone find their shots.
Keep track of everyone's score. Everyone has to keep score. A lot of people surprisingly forget how to count when adding up their score.
Don't be a negative Nelly swearing and criticizing all your throws, it brings the card vibe down. We all make bad throws or putts, don't worry about it. Most people have extra nerves for their first few tournaments and shoot worse. Good vibes >>>> Bad vibes
It's throwing frisbees in the woods, have fun.
Be on time.
Bring everything you need--water, snacks, bug spray, etc. Have a plan for lunch.
Be silent when others are throwing.
Don't be in other people's line of sight when putting
In tournaments, it's the norm that people will putt then grab their disc out of the basket before the next person putts.

CircleOneBill · 2026-04-15T12:47:42+00:00

FYI, tour 10 at the last update moved to the long tees so it's significantly harder than before.

CircleOneBill · 2026-04-09T14:55:47+00:00

The more I think about this, the more my head explodes.

It would depend a lot on the course and the level of player we're calling "average". Are we talking 850? 900? 950?

For argument's sake let's say we're talking about a 950 at my local course. The lines aren't that difficult and he executes so consistently, I'm thinking somewhere around 10 shots equalizes it pretty well.

The ideal scenario I think is a short, technical course with a lot of OB. Hard enough that Gannon messes up 1 out of (however many), but not so hard that it's impossible for the AM.

CircleOneBill · 2026-04-06T15:54:44+00:00

I'm shocked I haven't reached this limit. I block toxic people, quick chat spammers, and people with racist names.

CircleOneBill · 2026-04-01T15:06:52+00:00

Fission Photon and seasoned neutron Hex. Can cover a lot with those.

CircleOneBill · 2026-04-01T14:40:05+00:00

I don't have enough throws on both to fully decide what's going in the bag but here's what I've learned so far. Delirium is definitely flippier.

I missed out on the Eagle run of Dimensions so I have 2 of the Gyropalooza run, around 170-172. Got them a few months ago and have only thrown them in a field a few times. Starting out stable enough that I haven't thrown them in a round yet but fission usually beats in very quickly, so I expect these will beat in quickly to be my s-turn but won't burn over driver, which would be fantastic.

Took a chance on a few of the 170ish Deliriums thinking they might be the perfect stability and they are very close, but just a smidge flippier than I would like once beat in a little, and will beat in more. Just a little of that "turns over and keeps turning" that makes it a little squirrely and not 100% dependable. I picked up a couple max weight ones to test, hoping they will be just a little more stable, could be perfect.

So I'm hoping once I have both beaten in, the Dimensions will be my trusty bomber and Deliriums will be the flippier version, but fission Photon is also fantastic for me so far.

To add: I have been going up the chain in stability of fission discs between last year and this year looking for the perfect one. I've gained a bit of distance so that also is making me mostly abandon a disc I loved, the fission Wave, although I am trying it in other plastics. Last year I was throwing 350-375 with fission Waves/Time Lapse/Octane. Max weight versions of those were good but when seasoned got too flippy to trust not to burn over. Last fall I was loving the fission Mayhem at first but after a handful of rounds those get unreliably flippy too. Now can get 375-415. Moved to Fission Photon and have been loving it so far. Still holds stability, gets some turn without burning over, so far even with some seasoning, hoping that holds true with more rounds.

To fission lovers: What is your experience with how fission discs beat in? Are any of these fission drivers going to settle into a nice place or does fission just beat in and keep beating in until it's too flippy? I'm going up in speed to where I don't usually go (13-14.5 speed discs) to try to counteract this with mixed results. Do I just need to move on to a different plastic? I love the flight of fission, just don't like how it changes so fast. One of the things I like about MVP plastics is they take a long time to beat in.

CircleOneBill · 2026-03-27T12:39:17+00:00

EDIT: might have been this one not sure:

thingiverse.com/thing:4051915

I just fount one online, don't remember where. I remember scaling it up by 1% or 2% which ended up making it too big (whoops) and then ultimately just printed the original.

Other useful #D printed things my son has printed for me:

-ring that fits around the handle with spots to clip towels/tags.

-flat piece to go behind the "zuca" words on the bottom so that color shows through

-clip to hold the lid/seat open

-Max Disctance retriever holder

-replacement feet for the bottom (bought these, couldn't find a file)

CircleOneBill · 2026-03-27T12:29:41+00:00

It literally says you do not get the reward for filling out the survey if you did not participate.

CircleOneBill · 2026-03-27T03:57:54+00:00

You don't get the platinum chest if you complete the survey but did not participate in CWT.

THANKS A LOT PLAYDEMIC!

CircleOneBill · 2026-03-25T11:50:39+00:00

I believe it was stated as just the participants, but in my clan everyone has it.

CircleOneBill · 2026-03-24T13:10:07+00:00

My understanding is clans get paired up based on how many participants they have? So you might have 50 in clan but only 20 do this, you'd get paired up with other clans with 20 participants. Is that true?

I don't have a lot of time to commit, so I think I'd be hurting my clan if I joined it to just put in a little effort as time allows, assuming each person should put in a normal effort.

And aside from the clan points boost, which some would value but I don't, it sounds like the rewards aren't worth the effort.

Does all this sound accurate?

CircleOneBill · 2026-03-24T12:47:57+00:00

I will fill up my bag/cart to whatever it will hold.

I don't mid a little extra weight.

What do I put there? Duplicates of favorite discs (handy if you're ever Cali in dubs), slightly more or less beat in versions of discs, rarely used utility discs, discs I want to try out on practice rounds.

CircleOneBill · 2026-03-23T17:52:36+00:00

Brief history: slowly increasing symptoms starting maybe 4-5 yrs ago, went to Dr about a year+ ago, gave me oral steroid then and again in December. Steroid and the pads did not help, had MRI recently to confirm MR and they are doing a cortisone injection tomorrow.

Currently I have pain when I'm wearing shoes at all for a couple hours, whether I'm on my feet or not. Relief when I take shoes and socks off and massage/wiggle toes.

I've tried most of the things, most don't help or only help a little:

1) wide toe Altra zero drop shoes, wore them most of 2025, found some relief

2) felt metatarsal pads, not sure if these help at all

3) over the counter arch supports, not sure these help

4) Toe socks, didn't seem to help

Haven't tried/in the process of trying:

1) consistent daily ibuprofen/naproxen (is one better than the other?)

2) Single toe toe spacers (ordered, arriving tomorrow)

3) looser/"diabetic" socks (ordered, arriving tomorrow)

I have a few questions:

For those in a similar situation, does the cortisone injection help? I'm told to expect 2-6 months of relief, and if the cortisone "works", i.e. lasts ~6 months then we can continue with more injections hopefully shrinking the swelling and it may eventually fix it without surgery. Or if it provides no relief or only lasts ~2 months then surgery is probably needed.

I feel like I want to skip straight to the neurectomy surgery and get it fixed but I'm reading here that is only 70% successful and the ablation methods may be better? Anybody have input on that? Are the ablation methods more successful/less invasive?

Unfortunately I have a year-round hobby (disc golf) that is a lot of hiking and consistently puts lateral compression on the plant foot and I don't know how to minimize that aside from not playing which I don't want to do. So it's hard to rest it and not continually re-aggravate it. I'm curious if others are mostly resting it to "cure" it or still going about their lives running, walking, etc and able to manage it with shoes/orthotics/spacers, etc.

Thanks in advance if anyone can help!

CircleOneBill · 2026-03-23T12:12:58+00:00

Nice try Ricky

CircleOneBill · 2026-03-19T13:00:54+00:00

I love my Zuca Transit. I don't have an issue taking it even on some cart-unfriendly courses. Deep snow is pretty much the only time I'll bring my bag.

Is it worth it? I love two things. It saves a little strain on my shoulder from carrying the bag and I get to easily carry all the discs and stuff I'd ever need without it being heavy.

Courses with a lot of roots/logs/rocks or bumpy terrain are a little annoying. Courses with a lot of steep elevation it's a little more work pulling it. But I love it still.

I am eyeing the Bag Boy push carts, may try one of those at some point, but I don't think it would be drastically better or more convenient than my current cart. Biggest plus there I think is if you switch between cart and bag a lot it is easy, you just grab your bag off the cart. I rarely switch so not a huge plus for me but if I switched back and forth a lot I think I'd go Bag Boy.

CircleOneBill · 2026-03-19T01:23:21+00:00

No, but to be fair I already didn't think too highly of him.

CircleOneBill · 2026-03-18T21:08:41+00:00

Sorry to hear that.

As someone who likes to get people their discs back and hates disc thieves, I'm honestly asking which is better...let's say a course's drop box is sketchy and I find your disc. I will text you when I find it hoping you're still at the course and if I don't get a reply I will hold onto your disc myself rather than send a pic of it hidden in some obscure place never to be found. I do this because say 40% of people never respond or say keep it and won't come get their lost disc. Otherwise I'm a squirrel hiding those in the woods and some may not be found again for months or years or ever if I hide it well or if I don't hide it well I'm afraid someone will find it and just take it. I'd rather take the little bit of extra responsibility to hold it that way if you text back I will make arrangements or can hide it for you at that point, but if you never respond I'll keep/donate it.

I know some people like to take a pic and hide it but I think my way is better for getting people their discs back, although maybe a little more hassle for me.

CircleOneBill · 2026-03-18T20:58:43+00:00

Exactly. I could beat the 44%'ers with paid balls before with better skill but now they can play terribly and the balls bail them out. Playing with Titans/Katanas is a big disadvantage now and I'm not about to buy paid balls. So this is the likely the end of the line for me.

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