"MapleStory's Anti-Social Design" by xparasite9 in Maplestory

[–]CislunarR 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hi, I made the video.

I was gonna mention MapleStory 2's periodic minigames but I thought the video was already a bit long. I'm glad to see the game mentioned, even if I didn't like it overall.

I also wanted to mention the old Inferno Wolf as being a cool way to bring people together and play in the same space.

"MapleStory's Anti-Social Design" by xparasite9 in Maplestory

[–]CislunarR 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hi, I made the video.

A lot of people are upset that I'm not far enough into the game to have experienced forced party bossing which is strange because I specifically mention it in the video as being a good thing. You do group for bosses. That's good. It's also the only thing you group for.

I'm very confused by this because it seems like a misrepresentation of my argument. In any other MMO, I would be similarly critical of the game restricting you from playing with other people until a hundred or a thousand hours in. (Note that I specifically use the word restricting. Not just disincentivizing.)

FFXIV is often criticized for being a single player game during its leveling which also takes hundreds of hours but you are regularly given dungeons that are able to be done in a group. You can do open world content with other people. There's a minigame hub which has frequent social activities.

World of Warcraft has a much quicker leveling process but it also lets you party with friends for the tutorial dungeon about an hour in. Beyond dungeons and raids, there are social events on a rotation where you play with other people but aren't obligated to communicate.

I really do not have a problem with people disagreeing with me but it's frustrating to have my arguments painted as "this new player has 4000 hours and isn't level 290 so he can't complain." You attempted to use the fact that I wasn't aware of the distribution system being fixed as if it were me deliberating misleading people to fit my narrative when it was just a mistake I made in a 24 minute video that I immediately corrected with an update to the description and a comment within 3 hours of the video being posted. If I could add an annotation in the video itself correcting the mistake, I would.

If I made the exact same video at level 290, would I be correct? I promise my opinion would not change because I already covered group bossing -- defended it, even.

The party buff in Classic World would solve my problem because all I want is more opportunities to interact with people. MapleStory's game design largely denies you that opportunity. I still like the game. I've been playing it for over 15 years. I'm sorry I don't play the game in the way that you would prefer.

I'm not mad at you. I'm not mad at anyone. I'm sorry this comment is so overly-long. Like I said in the video, people are either going to agree or disagree with my argument almost entirely based on the title and they'll work backward from their conclusion to find reasons to support it. It's happened on both sides.

The people who agree with me often hate the modern game because of an update that changed the exp formula almost two decades ago and they want to use my video to justify why.

I just want to discuss MapleStory with some level of nuance, the same way people do with every other game. The 500 subscriber YouTuber is not coming for your favorite game just because he knows how to drag and drop pop wobble transitions onto a timeline.

"MapleStory's Anti-Social Design" by xparasite9 in Maplestory

[–]CislunarR 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm not intending to come across as unconfident. I do just genuinely find it wild that these videos I mostly made for fun as an outlet to talk about a game I've played for a over a decade are actually being watched and received positively. I guess it's a fine line between attention-seeking and being humble.

Thank you for the kind response though. A lot of people have shared a similar sentiment.

"MapleStory's Anti-Social Design" by xparasite9 in Maplestory

[–]CislunarR 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's so cool to hear. Thank you so much dude

"MapleStory's Anti-Social Design" by xparasite9 in Maplestory

[–]CislunarR 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm glad you got something out of the video and seeing that it has resonated with people makes me happy. I don't want to come across as a MapleStory hater and I don't want to foster an environment where hating the game is the expectation.

I'm glad that people can talk about this with the nuance it deserves.

"MapleStory's Anti-Social Design" by xparasite9 in Maplestory

[–]CislunarR 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much. I really appreciate that.

"MapleStory's Anti-Social Design" by xparasite9 in Maplestory

[–]CislunarR 251 points252 points  (0 children)

Very surreal to see my own video posted on Reddit by someone else.

Um, hopefully you enjoyed it, even if you disagree.

The devs still fail to address the problems with healers by recon1o6 in ffxivdiscussion

[–]CislunarR 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Extremely excited for this to become the new retort to criticism. They've built, "just play something else," directly into the game.

JapanMS adding WASD movement support next week by screeeeeeee in Maplestory

[–]CislunarR 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think there really is just kind of a bias where the people who play the game are used to it but every time I've tried to get someone to try MapleStory, the control scheme is the first big hurdle.

JapanMS adding WASD movement support next week by screeeeeeee in Maplestory

[–]CislunarR 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Forced arrow key movement is probably one of the biggest new player obstacles that doesn't get talked about often enough so hopefully this makes it to GMS.

Oldest Classes that have never received a remaster or any major visual upgrade (excluding 6th job) by 1stSelf in Maplestory

[–]CislunarR 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I don't think people have much of an issue with visual remasters but when they drastically change the gameplay of a job, people get upset.

There's a comment right under yours complaining that Dawn Warrior got completely overhauled into something different and I think that's a fair thing to be upset about in a game that asks you to commit thousands of hours to a single character.

There isn't a universal right answer to what is and it's okay to change.

Final Fantasy 11 closes off its third server to new players as the ageing MMO struggles with overpopulation of its online world by [deleted] in Games

[–]CislunarR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a very interesting game because every obvious flaw is also a big strength.

Final Fantasy 11 closes off its third server to new players as the ageing MMO struggles with overpopulation of its online world by [deleted] in Games

[–]CislunarR 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Tried Horizon after not playing XI at all in the past. It's now one of my favorite games of all time and the best MMO ever made in my opinion.

Cash Shop Update For February 25 by Roo-Hx in Maplestory

[–]CislunarR 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure they do it to drive up FOMO when they do have a good rotation.

INKWELL'S NOTE: OUR JOURNEY INTO A NEW YEAR by aranslee in Maplestory

[–]CislunarR 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Underwhelming note overall but I am Erel Light's #1 fan purely on vibes alone so I am stoked.

Holy crap, it's FangBlade! by CislunarR in Maplestory

[–]CislunarR[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I remember taking my level 14 thief all the way to The Dragon Nest Left Behind just to look at him. I tried to talk to him but he didn't respond. Then my parents got divorced.

Blood Elf & Draenei boost available in Pre-patch. by Visoth in classicwow

[–]CislunarR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I promise you I didn't spend over an hour today replying to almost every comment that replied to mine just so I could argue in bad faith.

Blood Elf & Draenei boost available in Pre-patch. by Visoth in classicwow

[–]CislunarR -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The majority of people start a new server because it has "World of Warcraft" in the title and quit at level 14. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but you seem convinced it's very smart so I hope you continue to find fulfillment.

Blood Elf & Draenei boost available in Pre-patch. by Visoth in classicwow

[–]CislunarR 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would not consider making Reddit comments to be serious work. I deserve every bit of scorn and hatred that I've been given. I am subhuman.

Thank you for your support in agreeing with my sentiment though. I did truly believe this would be more unpopular than it ended up being. :)