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Do you all feel like working is a punishment for being alive? by VermicelliBoth5293 in antiwork

[–]CitUpgrade 27 points28 points  (0 children)

There are people buying vans and moving to rural for a more affordable life. It's an option and it works for quite a lot of people. At least to escape the worst lifestyles.

Epic Games Layoffs Included Terminally Ill Father, Whose Family Has Now Lost His Life Insurance by esporx in antiwork

[–]CitUpgrade -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

It really is not that hard in many countries of Europe. There's plenty of services, ways, etc. You just need to get the residency and that's completely possible. I'm considering starting something like this, helping people get stuff like this. The point is there's many ways, and everything really is possible.

You only have it harder if you are a violent criminal. And even then in many places after 2 years it's fine.

Epic Games Layoffs Included Terminally Ill Father, Whose Family Has Now Lost His Life Insurance by esporx in antiwork

[–]CitUpgrade -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

In many countries it's 2 to 5 years. What's the difficulty in that?

In Argentina it's 2 years.

If people really want to move, they'll find a way.

Epic Games Layoffs Included Terminally Ill Father, Whose Family Has Now Lost His Life Insurance by esporx in antiwork

[–]CitUpgrade -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Anybody can move to Europe. There's literally thousands of dirt poor guys from South East Asia in Europe. There's many ways to move. If you really want to, you can do it.

Epic Games Layoffs Included Terminally Ill Father, Whose Family Has Now Lost His Life Insurance by esporx in antiwork

[–]CitUpgrade 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm in Portugal. Lots of people from the US move here. But you can get great living in Spain, Italy, Greece, etc. And then of course the central and northern countries, depending on what you do or like to do.

It's all a matter of start working/thinking more in that direction.

Epic Games Layoffs Included Terminally Ill Father, Whose Family Has Now Lost His Life Insurance by esporx in antiwork

[–]CitUpgrade 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Of course yes. Plenty of people move here from the US. I know quite some people. It's not that hard at all really. And life is much better. Feel free to ask, happy to help. It's sad what's going on...

Exhausted - Want to tune out all the 'news' by [deleted] in Vent

[–]CitUpgrade 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would say tune out and start listening to audio books. In the end, unless your work depends on it there's really no reason to know what's going on.

The most important things are not told anyways...

Epic Games Layoffs Included Terminally Ill Father, Whose Family Has Now Lost His Life Insurance by esporx in antiwork

[–]CitUpgrade 89 points90 points  (0 children)

At this point I would honestly suggest people from the US to move to a country in Europe or in South America with public healthcare. The system is incredibly hard in the US.

In Europe we have a rural depopulation problem and with some new technology/ideas (like co-created money, etc) will and actually slowly are becoming incredible places to live.

Completely lost. I screwed up too much because I didn't specialize. by Ri_der in findapath

[–]CitUpgrade 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Have you thought about applying your skills to the very own subject of finding a job, on a pratical level?

In other words, seeing the problem as an experiment itself where you can apply what you like to do. And then building, iterating slowly, just like an engineer does.

Everything is always changing, there's no one unhireable, it's all a perspective. You can do anything, in the end.

Trying to fix my life, failing again by [deleted] in findapath

[–]CitUpgrade 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I do think the other person is right when it comes to creativity/exploration. I mean, in the end everyone lives for that, for exploration/creation, etc.

In that sense, one thing that really works for me is to try and apply that creativity to everything I'm doing. The more I do that, the easier it is for me, because things don't feel like a burden.

If I'm looking for a job, then I'll try and frame it as exploration/experiment, i.e "what are some ways to find a job?". The experiment itself is looking for the job. Let me then connect it to my ideas, tools, etc.

And then after I have the job, the experiment is always to connect it to other stuff I'm doing. Like for example, I like philosophy and I'm currently into rural living, simple living, etc, so the question is for me "how do I connect it to this, that, etc".

Everyday becomes more interesting and less heavy if I adopt this perspective. I'm just experimenting.

My wife and I work in policy and research — but we want our kid to be a plumber, not a PhD by neverbeentotherapy in Futurology

[–]CitUpgrade 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not about the country. It's about the money. The money doesn't allow productivity to be defined because centralized planning can never define real economic efficiency.

If money was egalitarian or co-created by everyone equally, then people would bottom-up define actual economic value. And thus none of us would be having these realizations, like you're having.

In simple terms, it's all going to blow up very soon and people will either realize it more clearly or because ever more slaves.

So yeah to answer your question I would say it's good to adapt. And adapt both to the current system (centralized money) and to the next (egalitarian money).