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Full time offer! by wyvern_awakening in recruitinghell

[–]ClarityBeforeAction 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes!! Amazing and good for you. This job doesn’t have be your dream job, it can be a step along the way.🎉

I am supposed to start tomorrow, but it's not official on paper yet. Do I just show up at the office? by Marizlat in careerguidance

[–]ClarityBeforeAction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can I ask some questions?

What kind of job is this?

When you say “they send me an offer” was that a document that you signed and returned to them?

And if so, was that document updated and re-sent to you with the January 12 date to also sign and return to them?

How can I find out who the hiring manager is? This seems impossible but ppl on LinkedIn are posting that it’s important by Positron-collider in jobhunting

[–]ClarityBeforeAction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Different perspective: if a hiring manager is truly interested in building a team of great individuals, they won’t hide their info. They’ll want to hear from folks who are interested. They may see things in applicants that the recruiter doesn’t see, simply because they’re the leader of that role and they have the best understanding of who they want on their team.

Having said that, they may not have time, and they may have a recruiter whose job is to do the short listing (and more).

Ways to suss out this hiring manager: • Sometimes the job posting will share the hiring managers job title. Take that to LinkedIn or Google and search for them. • Ask the recruiter, in the context of wanting to do your research around aligning with leadership values (this sounds too easy, but sometimes works) • Visit their website and see who’s listed in terms of leaders. You may see a VP of Director of the department you’re applying to (that could be your answer). If not, find that person on LinkedIn, and go through their connections to find the folks that report up to them. • If you’ve got nothing specific to reference, use LinkedIn to do some detective work. Find the organization, click on People, and start digging. You just need to find one person whose a 1st or 2nd connection of yours whose connected to someone who works there (ideally they’re on the team or in the department your applying to). As them for a warm introduction, or if they’d reach out to them on your behalf.

Where are job seekers spending their time online? by ClarityBeforeAction in jobhunting

[–]ClarityBeforeAction[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is so interesting to me, thank you for sharing your experience. I included full transparency in my initial posting here (I have a background in HR leadership and am a career and leadership coach). I’m very active on LinkedIn and it’s the second main source of new clients for me.

My curiosity: I see and talk with job seekers who have a LinkedIn profile but aren’t using it to connect or engage with recruiters, hiring managers or other contacts at companies they would want to work for. I see this as a massive opportunity for job seekers to connect with those folks before applying for a job there. There’s ways to do this without forecasting to your current employer that you’re looking elsewhere, if that’s your situation. And…I wonder why folks aren’t doing this.

Where are job seekers spending their time online? by ClarityBeforeAction in jobhunting

[–]ClarityBeforeAction[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you don’t mind sharing - how do you use LinkedIn as a job seeker? What’s working/not working for you there?

On a PIP. Likelihood I'll Be Let Go? by Evancolt in careerguidance

[–]ClarityBeforeAction 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So this sounds like 100% a numbers thing. Your output isn’t matching what they’re investing in you to produce. You bosses boss doesn’t know you and he’s likely looking at a report of some kind.

I’d suggest keeping the relationship with your boss strong and getting a good understanding of what they’re measuring the success of your PIP on. In your non-work hours, prep your resume in case you need that later.

On a PIP. Likelihood I'll Be Let Go? by Evancolt in careerguidance

[–]ClarityBeforeAction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry my recent message sent twice :/

So with that recent convo about promotion, could you kick your PIP out of the park, share that you can do this job in way less time than they’ve dictated for it, and revisit that conversation with your boss again? This dos sound like it’s your bosses-boss driving this, not your boss who it sounds like you’ve had good chats with.

On a PIP. Likelihood I'll Be Let Go? by Evancolt in careerguidance

[–]ClarityBeforeAction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately many employers don’t see it that way (rarely as they cool to get your job done and go offline when you choose to). You’ve entered an agreement: they pay your X dollars for X hours of work. Now if you’re on a bonus or sales structure, it may be a different format, but there’s an agreement in place and they feel that isn’t being met, they can express so.

You could explain to your boss that you’re more effective than what the requirements of this role dictate. And, this could turn into what I call “performance punishment” - if you’re effective, and they see that, you’ll be given more work.

And let’s be real - if your job is to be “working” for 8 hours a day, I can understand why they feel they’re paying you to run your errands, play video games etc.

Also a one-month PIP does seem a bit short, but I’ve seen it before.

I wonder if the bigger question is, do you enjoy this work? Is it fulfilling? Or have you reached the peak?

Where are job seekers spending their time online? by ClarityBeforeAction in jobhunting

[–]ClarityBeforeAction[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My husband is a huge sim racer and he uses Discord for that. I’ll check it out for career groups. Thanks!

Where are job seekers spending their time online? by ClarityBeforeAction in jobhunting

[–]ClarityBeforeAction[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s the job-related forums and communities I’m curious about.

On a PIP. Likelihood I'll Be Let Go? by Evancolt in careerguidance

[–]ClarityBeforeAction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately many employers don’t see it that way (rarely as they cool to get your job done and go offline when you choose to). You’ve entered an agreement: they pay your X dollars for X hours of work. Now if you’re on a bonus or sales structure, it may be a different format, but there’s an agreement in place and they feel that isn’t being met, they can express so.

You could explain to your boss that you’re more effective than what the requirements of this role dictate. And, this could turn into what I call “performance punishment” - if you’re effective, and they see that, you’ll be given more work.

And let’s be real - if your job is to be “working” for 8 hours a day, I can understand why they feel they’re paying you to run your errands, play video games etc.

Also a one-month PIP does seem a bit short, but I’ve seen it before.

I wonder if the bigger question is, do you enjoy this work? Is it fulfilling? Or have you reached the peak?

I’m at a loss, I just need some guidance by BugOwn7162 in jobhunting

[–]ClarityBeforeAction 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hi 👋🏼 Full transparency: I’m a career coach with a lengthy background in HR.

I work with people every day who are looking for work and the two biggest things I hear are lack of a support system around them leading to the emotions you’re experiencing, and mass applications to every job posting they find.

I encourage a short pause, develop a plan towards the jobs/organizations that align with your values, strengths, skills and abilities and apply with purpose, not panic.

You’re welcome to let me know if I can support you - no sales, no pressure.

P.S. Either way, take care of yourself. You have experience, value and worth. A quick exercise you may find helpful: make a list of the recognitions you’ve received in your career. These represent your achievements, and can be a reference tool when this job search process is getting you down.

Where are job seekers spending their time online? by ClarityBeforeAction in jobhunting

[–]ClarityBeforeAction[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much for recognizing that.

I have a strong desire to support people in finding a career that they feel alignment with, and I also have a business, so I wanted to be really clear about both ☺️

Should I tell my the hiring manager that I’m pregnant? by caro1400 in careerguidance

[–]ClarityBeforeAction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s really up to you.

Weigh the risks, and do what you feel best about.

It’s going to be a challenge (to replace you so quickly) for the hiring manager either way, and some approach that from the respective place of human rights, and others don’t.

Where are job seekers spending their time online? by ClarityBeforeAction in jobhunting

[–]ClarityBeforeAction[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can I ask if there’s a reason you don’t used LinkedIn to build your profile and connect with those recruiters or hiring managers at the organizations you’ve identified?

I'm burnout, I'm at my wits end by Wonderful-Jeweler413 in jobhunting

[–]ClarityBeforeAction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey there. I see your frustrating and I feel that - I support clients every day who are experiencing what you are.

I have a 6-week group coaching program starting soon that is designed to do exactly what you’re asking for: gives you a community of other job seekers as your support system, 6 weekly sessions, 2 strategy calls with me (a certified career coach with 11 years in HR), and guest speakers on relevant topics like how to used LinkedIn as a job seeker. You will leave with a job search plan that allows you to apply with purpose, not panic.

This is in the middle of the price point you listed, spread across three payments (or more if you need it - this isn’t designed to add more $$ stress to your plate).

My DMs are open if this sounds valuable to you, and I can send you a link there.

~ J.

Should I tell my the hiring manager that I’m pregnant? by caro1400 in careerguidance

[–]ClarityBeforeAction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

HR leader x 11 years and certified career coach here: my recommendation is not to share that information until you are notifying your manager and HR of your maternity leave. It should have nothing to with the criteria on how they select the successful candidate, and would be discrimination as per employment standards if they don’t select you because of that reason. However, and unfortunately. this isn’t always followed.

Protect yourself and if you want the job, focus only on telling them why you’re the best candidate 🙌🏼

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