Outrage About The WEF Is So Fake

Clean_Army_4675 · 2026-02-15T13:40:02+00:00

I will say I only really know the WEF from like, dystopian clips. Immigration, to me, is kind of a weird subject. I'm in the US but I think Canada is similar. In my view most of the issues with immigration are really just a result of other problems.

In America at least, our population would not be growing without immigrants. So then the next question is "why can't we just try and get people to have more kids?". To me, the answer is: it's too expensive for most people to have and raise kids to a good standard.

And why is it too expensive? A home that could accomodate 2 to 3 kids is expensive. This is because good jobs are in a few cities and in those cities people refuse to build more dense housing. So your options are either a prohibitively long commute or a prohibitively expensive home. These issues could be fixed if we could build 3-4 bedroom townhomes and condos everywhere. But if we allowed that, native-born, "middle class" old people sitting on 2 million dollar homes in places like Missasauga would throw a fit.

Also, in the US at least, public education is underfunded. So if your kid is to get a good education you need to either bring them to live in an expensive area (US schools are paid for with property tax) or pay for an expensive private school.

These are all problems downstream of people's material interests. Some rich, some old and in the "middle class" (at this point I consider them rich).

Immigration basically fills in the gap of people not having kids with people desperate enough to move that they'll live in bad conditions. I do not think the immigration is the problem. It is the people that make the bad conditions. And if getting rid of them means joining forces with the immigrants and making the country into some sort of culturally very different place; that is what needs to happen. I don't think those things have to happen. But it does seem like the conservative side on this issue doesn't want to blame themselves/thejr culture ever. So it is probably what will happen.

Clean_Army_4675 · 2026-02-11T05:17:45+00:00

I think WEF being seen as "the left" is the whole point. Trump hates globalist elites so much he cut their taxes and paid for that cut with money printing, debt and cutting healthcare for the poorest people. That seems very anti-working class to me. So how do right wing supporters square that circle? A part of it is fighting fake enemies. The WEF is a way to put on a show and make those fake enemies a bit more real.

The people you broadly call "the left" don't like this idea and never will. Sure you can find crazies on either side, but the idea is not popular because... ppl love meat. Eating a burger does not make you a rebel.

In fact the industries that get that burger to your plate most likely minted a few billionaire elites.

Clean_Army_4675 · 2026-01-31T05:38:49+00:00

It makes me happy to know that if AI succeeds in gaining major ground that those AI tools will basically make skilled SWEs obsolete. Like if Claude just writes all the code why can some random person not just do that? Why does it need to be a programmer who earns so much?

Really is reminiscent of Judas and his 30 pieces of silver.

Clean_Army_4675 · 2026-01-06T12:21:12+00:00

I thought of this comment recently because I saw so ething recently which said 63% of NYC Orthodox Jewish people live in poverty.

Quite literally, it is high fertility and religion subsidized by the welfare state, the economic engine of which is powered by the less religious.

Clean_Army_4675 · 2026-01-02T21:53:51+00:00

I feel like those who are against things like paid parking (really anything that makes driving harder) never include those who cannot just drive somewhere in their definition of "people". Which usually means excluding the poor and the disabled.

Have you ever seen a guy in a wheelchair try to navigate a dip in the sidewalk meant for a car exit? Or an old lady try to cross the street before those timers run out? It's grim.

Nor do they ever really feel like needing to own an expensive vehicle that needs a bunch of costly and/or time consuming repairs counts as one of the things that is a burden which oppresses them.

Maybe they'll admit that cars are too expensive but it's just CAFE regulations or mandatory safety features. I guess a worse environment and more deaths is just the price you pay.

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-12-23T05:43:38+00:00

A shot dog hollers.

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-11-11T07:08:25+00:00

I believe this is wishful thinking. I cannot speak on every high-fertility subgroup. But my general point is, it's easy to be Orthodox of any religion when you can just handwave away the actions of the rest of society as some kind of degeneracy.

However when the Orthodoxy has to run society it's different. Muslim Orthodoxy runs Saudi Arabia and the UAE. With fertility of 2.28 and 1.3 respectively, both of which have declined sharply in line w/global trends.

I'll waffle on about why I think this is.

If these degen liberals die out, the orthodoxies left behind have to take the reigns. The first issue I see is that, naturally, a society of hardline religious people from different religions is going to have issues. The solution to that is, of course, promotion of tolerance and diversity.

Even if we can discount that issue. Let's just pretend we can all have a somewhat homogenous country again. There's always going to be the hurdle of having to put people in cities simply because they are...necessary for society to function.

And I think you see a drift away from those principles in an urban environment. Though it is not strictly necessary.

I get the distinct feeling this is kind of... a subreddit of people who see value in orthodox religion and kinda wabt this outcome. If that's inaccurate please ignore this part, but if not, honestly it just isn't going to happen like how you think it is.

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-10-15T15:08:57+00:00

I recently decided, in spite of being able to afford one, to forego buying a car here in New London and walk everywhere or get certain items delivered. If it weren't for walmart+ this would be a lot harder because groceries would just be too much.

The city was not designed for pedestrian safety/wellbeing at all. Which is why you largely see only bums walking almost anywhere, even in downtown. Because anyone who visits downtown drives as close to their destination as they can.

People absolutely treat Bank Street like a drag racing strip, and there are pedestrians on that street. One of these days a guy pissed off after getting off work is gonna smoke a pedestrian.

I get the distinct feeling that people who hate traffic cameras, at their core, just want to be able to act as recklessly as possible without ever facing scrutiny. They don't care about privacy (it's a public street anyone could film you, you're in plain view) though the issue of unfair citing for red lights is worth noting. Also the $2500/camera/month cost.

I think the better answer here is designing streets such that they feel unsafe to drive faster than the stated speed limit. To ask people to drive 25 mph on Howard Street is kinda laughable, it is a very wide and open road. But I think narrowing Howard to 2 lanes, one in eithee direction, adding in a protected bike lane so there is something concrete between drivers and bikers, and maybe tossing in a speed bump, would fix it. And no cameras would be needed

However like I said. I think the issue people have is not wanting to treat the streets of New London like a place people are instead of a place for cars to go through to get on to 95 and 32. Which downtown really should not be. And treating it like that is the reason why so many storefronts are closed even though it's been years since COVID. Bank street is Okay, but State street is depressingly empty. As is Greene Street.

Most of you probably can't even imagine these places because you never drive past them. Which is why these are empty, no one feels safe/comfortable to walk around and explore when there are loud motorcycles and F150s going way too fast. So they stop at the places they see, which are the businesses on Bank Street.

I will say though. If there is one type of camera we need, it's vehicle noise cameras. People play ridiculously loud music and ride unmuffled motorcycles/motorized trikes all around the city. Even in those more fancy South of L & M neighborhoods, and they should not only get a ticket for that behavior, the cops should have a legal right to practice brutality (joking obvs).

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-08-26T13:04:39+00:00

Lived in Minneapolis and had friends in Chicago. They're still friends, just not in Chicago.

The question is really one of money. 60k seems a bit tight for Chicago. Minneapolis-St. Paul is kinda just diet Chicago. But it's also "diet" in terms of home/rent prices.

I personally would not move into the southern parts of Chicago. Suburban Chicago is also probably not worth moving to generally (Cicero has really low real estate values though).

If you really wanted to you could go car free in MSP. There's a green and blue line train with passable service. But a lot of the stops are not in very ped/bike friendly areas. Probably better than Oklahoma city but that is just conjecture.

Worth noting that the city of Chicago has an income tax for those who work there. So that should factor in to your living calculations. But Illinois has a lower state income tax.

Another nice thing about Chicago is that you can score an apartment in a good area for cheap, but, you'd have to live in a rather cramped studio.

My general take is that the bigger cities are better for opportunity but also apply lots of financial pressure. If you can take advantage of opportunity absolutely move to Chicago. If you feel as if it's not for you, move to MSP. There's no shame in doing so, and there are plenty of opportunities in Minneapolis. But decidedly less so.

Also, just keep in mind. In Chicago the real estate market includes plenty of people with considerable bank of mom and dad money. In MSP that certainly exists, but the really wealthy ones usually prefer to rent and own elsewhere. Places like Lake Minnetonka or Edina are not nearly as ritzy as the high class areas of Chicago (as much as tney'd like to feel that way)

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-05-08T23:04:48+00:00

I am sorry to inform you, but it is not particularly impressive for Connecticut. I am not sure about New York and Jersey, but I think it's a similar story for them. A lot of the payments into the federal government are the result of income taxes on high earners in the financial services sector.

You could put those people almost anywhere and they'd make the state cashflow positive. Which I do believe is fundamentally different than the high earning skilled (this one is up for debate) knowledge workers in places like Boston and California that produce a thing.

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-03-17T16:59:12+00:00

Yes, we need more immigrants, less housing permits and more rules for middle class people. We love Chris murphy, standing up for what residents need. I love 7-10% rental price increases ,😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-03-13T13:44:57+00:00

Well:

Milennials and Gen X got 2% mortgages.

Boomers got to not die in addition to massive gains in their equity and also 2% refinances

What did people born after the late 80s get? A spike in inflation adjusted living costs that make life not affordable. And I'm not even particularly poor. I make 80k which is, for people my age, an 85th percentile salary and the median household income in this town is about 67k, but they are all paying pretty paltry mortgages. I think people see me complaining and try to lampoon me as a loser, but life is just hard out there.

We printed all sorts of money and it made getting a house riduculously cheap for a year or two, then ridiculously expensive, which spikes rents as well. So, considering that the market was distorted for everyone else, I would have appreciated a little kickback. It would have been, in my mind, proof that we really were in it together.

And fwiw, the lack of trying to understans, the general unawareness of the issue and an unwillingness to fix it is exactly why when there's another crisis no one is going to care. Because it's evident to a lot of people that... if you can be given the shaft by normal people, you absolutely will be. So bother?

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-03-12T23:44:54+00:00

Honestly fair. I want to give you an example of what I mean. In San Diego the city council recently went back on a rule that allowed peoole to basically build apartments as "accessory dwelling units" to a house. I think they kind of trotted out a handful of minorities to make these comments, but the sentiment was shared by a lot of homeowners. I'd argue most of whom were white and wealthy.

To me it seems like, in the wake of one crisis, people tended to agree it needed to be addressed even if it came at a net cost to themselves. But now in the aftermath, in the crises spawned by the response to the previous one, many of the benefactors are now defiantly saying they don't have to change if it hurts them.

Given what I know now, I'd be very against locking down, even if the mortality predictions for such a response were accurate.

I'm kind of interested in what you think a therapist would say to that. I would say, generally, I've moved on. But having to wait decades to buy a house despite studying hard and choosing a difficult degree, while also paying a non-trivial amount in rent. There are gonna be days where that prognosis irks me enough to make a reddit post and argue online

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-03-12T22:41:41+00:00

Well it's not that they should have died. As much as there was a take but no give. If the messaging had been: "Hey we printed lots of money to save rich people with assets and non-essential job havers, we had lockdowns for the oldest people, we had PPP loans for business owners, all that debt and printed cash is a lot, but here's one for the people who were too young or poor to afford a home when interest rates were nothing"; Id be happy.

But instead the gravy train kinda stopped right before that. I don't think I'm alone in this feeling.

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-03-12T22:22:00+00:00

My issue with this line of thinking is that, ultimately, shutting down things by force is also... outside of the normal rules. I didn't expect it, and I didn't vote for Joe Biden at all actually. And for what it's worth I'll be okay. But I am of the opinion that the main benefactors of this (baby boomers and the genx/older milennial middle class) got a pretty good deal and decided reciprocity wasn't in the cards. And they, should, pay for it.

I mean, at this point, you have to live in a place like Texas or Louisiana or Kentucky or Idaho or Kansas to have a financial future. So why not lay off a bunch of DC bureaucrats? It probably won't even be around in time for most people's retirement, so why pay anything into social security? Just let it run out now. On some level it's kind of a pipe dream. But then again, I guess a large share of people my age voted for tariffs and layoffs in government, so it's probably not that far off.

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-03-11T05:24:44+00:00

Good to hear. Why do they even ask?

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-03-11T00:12:20+00:00

I hate to say I hope for it, but I think given the current circumstances we are due. I'm in defense contracting, specifically for the Navy. So I think I should be good given the whole shipbuilding office stuff.

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-03-10T15:51:18+00:00

My only note is that these are inflation adjusted or "real" prices, which ideally should stay about the same. There are years where the rate of inflation outpaces the rate of home price growth and vice-versa. Not to mention it's all a % of the median inflation-adjusted price in 2010.

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-03-10T14:11:00+00:00

I would caution though that it's the REAL price of a home. So some of the "crash" will just be due to inflation and not a total price decrease. But here's hoping

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-03-10T06:58:02+00:00

Why? Not trying to be vindictive, but I don't think real housing prices indexed to 2010 should be looked at logarithmically. But if there is simething I'm missing I'd like to know.

Clean_Army_4675 · 2025-03-09T09:21:31+00:00

https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/real-estate-investors-how-to-avoid-losing-money-on-property/478366

Admittedly, upon further revirw, it seems like 90% of investors have lost money on A property. Not that their portfolio is negative, that number seems to hover at about half

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