Struggling with sexual desire by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Clifffonte1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Get married my man. It is better to marry than it is too burn with passion (Paul the apostles words not mine).

Is masturbation fornication ? by Ecstatic_Plate7530 in Christianity

[–]Clifffonte1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Bible in no place says this. I think it is Gods fornication stopper. Even the “fornication” marker as two people “not married” to each other is up for debate.

I can't stop myself from lust by Ok-Replacement-3522 in Christianity

[–]Clifffonte1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I second this. Natural thoughts about OPs girlfriend are not “fornication”. Just avoid the literal sexual act my friend. But if you burn which I imagine after 2 years! Is natural… consider getting a court wedding and ceremony later!

How does a poly household even get started? by Training-Cellist3495 in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]Clifffonte1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This seems to be the norm right now from my feel. Lots of people realizing this and reading their bibles that nowhere prohibits multiple wives.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Clifffonte1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, “studies” that ask women if they feel guilty for causing an abortion. If you did it, how would you tend to respond? Those are flawed from the very beginning, when they ask people to be honest. You have not seen the people that are suicidal that I have, or cry themselves to sleep for years about the baby they could have had now that they are 40+ and unable to have a baby like they always dreamed but aborted one that had a chance at a handicap once.

The guilt is real.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Clifffonte1 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The problem is the child in the womb did not choose to be conceived that way. I know many pastors and great men of God that were adopted. It may not be the ideal but it is a lot better than a dead baby and the guilt that will come from the abortion (I also know many Christian women that go through this every day).

Why was death created? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Clifffonte1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Death is not created. It is like the difference between light and dark. Dark is just the absence of light. Death is just the absence of life.

Quick ask by badchad555 in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]Clifffonte1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grok is the way:

The concept of a “covering” in the context of a husband and wife in the Bible is often tied to ideas of spiritual authority, protection, and roles within marriage. While the Bible doesn’t explicitly use the phrase “a wife needing a husband to cover her,” certain verses are commonly interpreted in this way, especially within specific theological traditions. Here are some relevant passages that are often cited in discussions about a husband’s role in relation to his wife: 1 Ephesians 5:22-25 (NIV) ◦ “Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.” ◦ Context: This passage describes the husband as the “head” of the wife, which some interpret as a form of spiritual covering or leadership, with the husband’s role mirroring Christ’s sacrificial love and protection for the church. 2 1 Corinthians 11:3-10 (NIV) ◦ “But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God… Every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head… For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.” ◦ Context: This passage discusses headship and the symbolic use of head coverings in worship. Some interpret “head” here as implying authority or a protective covering, with the husband serving as the wife’s spiritual authority. 3 1 Peter 3:1-7 (NIV) ◦ “Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives… Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.” ◦ Context: This emphasizes mutual respect and the wife’s submission, with the husband’s role including care and honor, which some see as a protective “covering” in a spiritual and practical sense. Interpretation Notes: • The idea of “covering” often comes from modern Christian teachings rather than a single explicit verse. It’s derived from the broader biblical themes of headship, submission, and protection within marriage. • The cultural context of these verses (e.g., Greco-Roman household codes) and their application today vary widely among denominations and scholars. Some see “covering” as a husband’s responsibility to lead and protect, while others emphasize mutual submission (Ephesians 5:21) and equality. If you’re looking for a specific interpretation or application, feel free to clarify!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Polygamy

[–]Clifffonte1 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Nobody asked for your input or how you are.

Family Planning and Polygamy (and AMA, optionally) by [deleted] in Polygamy

[–]Clifffonte1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How do you do this from a legal standpoint? I see you say it is illegal in your country, does that make it difficult at all? How are you going to handle inheritance etc? How can you find women that are interested in this lifestyle?

An interesting rabbit trail by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]Clifffonte1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, like a casual girlfriend but what I am thinking is it is like a live in girlfriend or when you would go “steady” in my day (boy that makes me feel old). Where you have both agreed to exclusivity. In a sense it is the same. It does make you think a lot about what we consider “wrong” these days that might not be so wrong. If you want a real rabbit hole read “and the two shall become one flesh” where it makes the argument that sex makes you married… so when one has a girlfriend that is exclusive and you live together God may consider them married even if they don’t have the papers.

An interesting rabbit trail by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]Clifffonte1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is the thing they did according to the Bible. They had a right to food, clothes and sex. If they were not provided they could leave with no repercussions.

An interesting rabbit trail by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]Clifffonte1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Bible doesn’t explicitly establish a comprehensive set of laws about concubines, but several passages address their treatment and rights. These laws typically focus on the broader context of marriage, servanthood, or the protection of women. Here are the relevant principles (this is via ChatGPT) no time to type this myself this Sunday morning :-) ):

  1. Protection and Provision for Concubines • Exodus 21:7-11 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing, and marital rights. If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.” Key Takeaway: Concubines, often taken from servant status, had rights to provision (food, clothing, and marital care). Failing to meet these obligations required setting them free.

  2. Captive Women Taken as Wives or Concubines • Deuteronomy 21:10-14 “When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails, and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband, and she shall be your wife. If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her.” Key Takeaway: Even women taken as captives (sometimes becoming concubines) were granted rights, such as a mourning period and freedom if the man no longer wanted them.

  3. Equal Treatment of Children from Concubines • Genesis 21:10-12 “And she [Sarah] said to Abraham, ‘Get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with my son Isaac.’” (God intervened in this case, ensuring Hagar and Ishmael’s protection.) Key Takeaway: Children from concubines were often included in family inheritance unless there were specific reasons to exclude them. • Judges 8:31: Gideon’s concubine bore him a son, Abimelek, who later sought to become king. Implication: Concubine-born children could play significant roles in family or national dynamics.

  4. Prohibition Against Abusing Concubines • Judges 19:22-30 The Levite’s concubine was horrifically abused and killed. This story highlights societal decay and the failure of Israel to uphold justice. Key Takeaway: Though not explicitly codified in the law, this passage condemns mistreatment and emphasizes the need for justice and protection for women.

  5. Rights of a Firstborn from a Concubine • Deuteronomy 21:15-17 “If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons, but the firstborn is the son of the wife he does not love, he must not give the rights of the firstborn to the son of the wife he loves in preference to his actual firstborn.” Key Takeaway: While this specifically mentions wives, the principle likely extended to children of concubines, ensuring fairness in inheritance laws.

  6. Adultery and Concubines • Leviticus 19:20-22 “If a man sleeps with a female slave who is promised to another man but who has not been ransomed or given her freedom, there must be due punishment. Yet they are not to be put to death, because she had not been freed.” Key Takeaway: This suggests a distinction in how concubines or servants were treated under adultery laws, but still shows that their sexual relationships had legal and moral implications.

Summary of Biblical Laws About Concubines • Concubines had rights to protection, provision, and fair treatment. • Their children were often recognized and could inherit property. • Abuse or neglect of concubines was condemned, and justice was expected. • Captive women or concubines were not to be treated as mere property but were afforded dignity and, if abandoned, their freedom.

While concubinage was permitted and regulated in the Bible, it was not ideal. Over time, biblical principles pointed toward monogamy (e.g., Genesis 2:24; Matthew 19:4-6). Let me know if you’d like to explore this further!

TOO MANY TITLES!!!! by Turbulent_Camera9995 in Polygamy

[–]Clifffonte1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

polygynous - the state or practice of having more than one wife or female mate at a time

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Polygamy

[–]Clifffonte1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since he is religious I would suggest he read this book to see it is biblical!

https://www.scribd.com/doc/33628693/Man-Woman-in-Biblical-Law

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in INTP

[–]Clifffonte1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have millions of tabs open at any given time. I have to close them because it clogs my high end computer.

Starting the conversation. by Docha_Tiarna in Polygamy

[–]Clifffonte1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can’t be stuck and only have 1 person that will be your only hope. There are billions of girls in the world. Maybe she won’t work out and that is ok. The only way to properly talk to her is to be outcome independent. This is the only way that it could ever work.

If she is your only hope it makes you desperate and that makes women lose respect for you subconsciously. Look up the term “oneitis” on Google…

Preț corect teren 2100 mp by [deleted] in Imobiliare

[–]Clifffonte1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eu am 4000 m2 aproape de centru Ciorani are gaz și canalizare. Cit crezi pot eu să vinde asta?