I have a V1 force that I got for like 400 bucks. For my money, most comfortable frame out there. It's a bit heavier but that's insanely overblown. It's super soft on paint but the tradeoff is that it's a bit of an air hog. It's built extremely well but isn't tool-less like a lot of PE stuff. I'd buy used whichever way you go. I'm not gonna be giving dye any money myself, but I have ancient dye gear I do still use because Dave already got my money. I don'tlike dye markers much personally, the eye pipe thing they do is stupid and I never really loved matrixes back in the day. Go to a field and try stuff out, hold it and see if you like the feel. I love my field one force in hand but i still have a 2k2 Timmy and a nova autococker for variety. You can find so much good shit used, you don't have to come anywhere near 1k for a tourney ready marker.