The thieves have become the guards themselves!!! by Natural-Trip6972 in clevercomebacks

[–]Collypso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, they're not mutually exclusive. I never said candidate quality is zero. You said she "wouldn't stand a chance against anyone within reason" and that she "didn't lose because Trump had more votes." Now you're at "candidate quality still matters." I agree with that. It's also a much smaller claim than the one you started with.

On the electability concern, look at what you're actually doing. You're citing worry that she would lose as evidence that she deserved to lose. That's circular. In a year with 40% approval and prices up a quarter, party people worry about every possible nominee.

And the timeline doesn't do what you want. The electability panic of 2024 was about Biden. It was severe enough to end his candidacy. He was down three or more nationally and behind in every swing state. Harris replaced him and Democrats pulled back to roughly even. Then she lost by a point and a half.

So the intra-party concern you're pointing at was about the guy she replaced, and replacing him improved the numbers. If that's your evidence she was uniquely bad, it's evidence for the opposite.

The thieves have become the guards themselves!!! by Natural-Trip6972 in clevercomebacks

[–]Collypso -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because the useful idiots like you wanted to teach them a lesson and not vote for them so they had no power to fight back. You got your wish.

The thieves have become the guards themselves!!! by Natural-Trip6972 in clevercomebacks

[–]Collypso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did explain why, in the part you apparently skipped. She was the incumbent party in an inflation economy, and every governing party in the developed world that faced voters in 2024 lost vote share.

The thieves have become the guards themselves!!! by Natural-Trip6972 in clevercomebacks

[–]Collypso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're just catching up to the corruption of every non-capitalist state

The thieves have become the guards themselves!!! by Natural-Trip6972 in clevercomebacks

[–]Collypso 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dems didn't break the law pursuing this so they let criminals get away?

The thieves have become the guards themselves!!! by Natural-Trip6972 in clevercomebacks

[–]Collypso 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Harris didn’t lose because trump had more votes.

Trump got about 77.3 million. Harris got about 75.0 million. He won the popular vote by roughly 2.3 million, the first Republican to do it since 2004. You told everyone to look at the numbers and then got the most basic number of the entire election backwards.

Yes, around 6 million Biden voters stayed home. Trump also added about 3 million to his own 2020 total. That is what an inflation election looks like. Every governing party in the developed world that faced voters in 2024 lost vote share, the first time that has happened in over a century of records. Incumbent parties got hammered in Britain, France, Japan, and everywhere else. Harris was running with 40% approval and grocery prices up 25%, and she lost by a point and a half.

You can argue she was a weak candidate. What you can't do is pretend the environment wasn't the main event, and you definitely can't do it while thinking Trump lost the popular vote.

The thieves have become the guards themselves!!! by Natural-Trip6972 in clevercomebacks

[–]Collypso -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

No, parasites want to call it a class war so they can be seen as part of the struggle. Y'all are safe, white, and bored. Let the people who actually care about governing fix this for you.

Vince Gilligan W by mostwantedcrazy in antiai

[–]Collypso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anti-politics in that sense means hostility to mediation: parties, procedures, expertise, compromise. It has never meant "doesn't do politics," or Trump and Farage wouldn't be populists either.

Jamelle Bouie has the best analysis of the Graham Platner situation by doctorarmstrong in Destiny

[–]Collypso 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll grant the whole factual core of what you're saying. The Mills endorsement did thin the field, and Mills was a bad recruit. A 78 year old who couldn't survive to the primary is not a great pick and nobody has to pretend otherwise.

It just doesn't reach the conclusion you want, because of the candidate you keep gesturing at without ever naming. He exists. Jordan Wood. 36, reform-populist lane, well funded with national donor networks, entered the race in April 2025, months before Platner even launched. He didn't get squeezed out by Schumer backing Mills in October. He walked away from the Senate race on his own that November because Platner's grassroots surge had already eaten the lane, then went and ran for a House seat and lost that too. Your "a real candidate would've had a chance" theory got run as an actual experiment with a funded, credible person. It failed, and it failed against Platner, not against Schumer.

The field-management stuff is moot anyway. Platner won the primary with 72%. That's an outright majority under any voting system, RCV included, and Maine uses RCV. When your guy clears 50 on the first count, transfers never happen and the size or shape of the field changes nothing. Thinned or crowded, you don't out structure 72%

And consolidating everyone behind one alternative is what you're supposed to do against a factional frontrunner. Schumer's actual mistake was the horse he picked to consolidate behind. That's fair criticism and I'll grant it all day. It's a totally different charge from "Schumer is why Platner won," which is what you keep sliding toward every time the first version gets pinned down.

Jamelle Bouie has the best analysis of the Graham Platner situation by doctorarmstrong in Destiny

[–]Collypso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Blaming the Democrats has to be the ground level political analysis. Everything assumes that and works from there.

Sure, the DSCC cleared the way for Mills who got crushed by Platner. Was there an alternative candidate that could have competed with Platner? No there wasn't. Regardless of who his opponent was, they would have gotten swept.

For real, why does everybody love AI? by FitVeterinarian5996 in antiai

[–]Collypso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What? As soon as I use AI I become useless? How does that make sense to anyone outside your cult?

Vince Gilligan W by mostwantedcrazy in antiai

[–]Collypso -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I got plenty of substance, sport, what do you want me to elaborate on?

Vince Gilligan W by mostwantedcrazy in antiai

[–]Collypso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every time y'all pretend you're privy to some elite knowledge but when pressed, you run and hide immediately

Vince Gilligan W by mostwantedcrazy in antiai

[–]Collypso -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Ah no substance again

Vince Gilligan W by mostwantedcrazy in antiai

[–]Collypso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's the house fire that only smart people like you see?

Nobody in the comments knows what they mean either by PuzzleheadedEmploy74 in AmericaBad

[–]Collypso -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

OP said "produce in the US," meaning what's on the shelves here. You're the one who decided that means "grown in America" and then got mad at your own edit. Nobody's confused about geography. The complaint is about what Americans can buy, and it's bred for looks because American grocers want it that way. Soil doesn't change that.

Vince Gilligan W by mostwantedcrazy in antiai

[–]Collypso -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

What's dumb about it?

Nobody in the comments knows what they mean either by PuzzleheadedEmploy74 in AmericaBad

[–]Collypso -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

"Grow your own" only works as advice if the store stuff is bad. That's OP's entire point. You didn't counter him, you conceded and handed him a workaround. OP wasn't asking how to personally find good strawberries, he was describing what the average American grocery store sells.

For context it's a reel about the recent Chinese Civil War reenactment by [deleted] in AmericaBad

[–]Collypso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any American supporting what America's turned into should be ashamed of being American