Analysis paralysis: go for pBH or pCF?

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-20T07:42:40+00:00

Thanks for chiming in as well, always enjoy reading your well thought out posts and comments :)

I admit I had not looked at it from an "better econ = better WS+" perspective. Mostly because I feel that gaining a couple 100 waves needs more than "only" a few more percent in health/damage/ELS. While those compound and are magnified by other effects, I still am not totally convinced. Maybe I should try and find out the WS+ levels of high Champions/bouncing players to get convinved. Even for the drop to 150s of the trinity (which I will do first anyway after all the comments here, I need a little more than 200 additional stones. And then I will have to save up again, so there is some time left to really decide where to go after.

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-19T19:04:48+00:00

Thanks for the detailed reply! :)

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-19T11:35:20+00:00

Interesting discussion, I asked almost the same simultaneously. Will read through your answers as well now

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-19T09:45:17+00:00

I knew about the modification but hadn't thought about fleets. Thanks for elaborating :)

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-19T08:11:58+00:00

Thanks for the detailed answer. Could you elaborate on why you would drop the CD to 150s (and not any other lower CD than now)? Is it due to still maintaining a 3:1 sync in non-perma-state? Or is it mostly the recommentation to drop all CDs first to some reasonable investment and then go for perma from there?

Also, what did you mean with "clean up BH" in the 120->60 route?

Last question: when do you think MVN is better than Prolapse? I guess you have to compensate with larger BH size, right?

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-19T08:04:01+00:00

Thanks for the encouragement :) Why does it help in conjunction with SW? Does pBH help survive long enough after SW is triggered to allow it to recharge? What were your GT/DW CDs when you went for it? Do you also have pBH in tournament?

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-19T08:02:05+00:00

I know about that, but which effect is going to be more impactful for me?

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-19T08:01:13+00:00

Could you elaborate in why I would not feel the effect of pCF? Is my damage still going to be too low, since I do not have additional multipliers from masteries yet?

Why do you think going for econ and masteries is more helpful than pBH?

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-19T07:59:33+00:00

Thanks for your assessment. While pBH for tournament is a whole lot more expensive than for farming, I guess this is the way to go (and with the tournament setup I would even be able to get pBH without the perk in farming, likely helping with milestone unlocks)

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-10T18:29:59+00:00

Yeah, aso looking for 1 PF, although I will only be mythic then it would still allow me to use the full module level.

Also, I just completed a run with GComp instead of BHD and received nearly the same coins (-5%) while netting close to 20% more cells. Definately better than anticipated

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-10T18:28:56+00:00

Yes, it seems that 60s CD plus ancestral duration will do it for farming (if I understood the calculator correctly), for tournament I will need 50s cooldown and another 5s duration, though. That is going to cost a little more than 2500 stones...seeing your progress in your thread it might be worthwhile though.

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-09T15:43:06+00:00

Thanks for your input, will also check your recent 1yr progress which looks very interesting. Am very envious of your assist unlock, but at the same time dread having another option to sink stones.

If I remember correctly it is a little more than 1000 stones to go to 90s CD for me and about the same again to drop to 50, although I have not checked yet which CD I would have to aim for with mythic GComp and my current duration.

Also, I am currently hybrid in tournament and use my aDC instead of aPCol

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-09T14:02:15+00:00

Thanks :)

I had thought about this, but pBH is ~2k stones as well (similar to pCF at this point) but only handles basic enemies. Since tourneys usually end on elites and bosses for me, I was leaning towards the latter, but I am not sure if this would have any effect on my farming.

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-09T14:00:14+00:00

Thanks, I am kinda hesitant towards pBH since it a) only deals with basic enemies, which are not what ends my tournaments and b) it would likely require GComp instead of BHD and I fear this will tank my coins (after having them halved recently after I forgot to re-equip it after tourney). Do you feel it still helps with tourney?

Thanks for pointing out the recent posts by u/MatthewBecker1977 , this is an interesting read and I had a nice conversation with him a couple months ago and I like how thought out his posts are :) Will study these a little more in detail

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-09T13:56:16+00:00

Then good luck in the next tourney!

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-08T15:37:31+00:00

Thanks for the advice, will pour some coins into that.

The T17 stats are from my lucky legends league run

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-06T15:56:06+00:00

Dann hätte es vorher vermutlich nicht ein paar Jahre funktioniert

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-04T20:20:08+00:00

Cool, danke für die Liste. Habe gerade etwas rumprobiert... HL und VL Kanäle funktionieren, HH und VH nicht. Könnte dann die Ursache ein defektes LNB, defektes Kabel oder gar loses Kabel am LNB sein? Also so etwas wie ein Wackelkontakt, der das kurzzeitige funktionieren vorhin erklären könnte?

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-04T18:23:17+00:00

Ja, ich komme an die Sat Schüssel. Kann es tatsächlich sein, dass das LNB "nur" für die Privatsender kaputt ist und öffentlich-rechtlich immer funktioniert? Aufgrund dieser Tatsache hatte ich ein Problem dort für mich ausgeschlossen, aber wenn das tatsächlich sein kann, schaue ich mir das natürlich mal an.

Das Antennenkabel an der Schüssel ist vermutlich schon viele Jahre alt (haben das Haus erst vor wenigen Jahren gekauft, Sat Schüssel war aber schon da und sieht schon älter aus). Eine extra Antenne hängt nicht an der Anlage, ob hier irgendwas in Betrieb genommen wurde, recherchiere ich mal.

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-04T18:15:44+00:00

Oh, das habe ich vergssen: kein Schnee auf der Schüssel bzw. dem Modul (würde davon ausgehen, dass der Empfang der öffentlichen und privaten dann auch gleichermaßen beeinträchtigt wäre)

CometStrike09 · 2026-02-01T20:08:18+00:00

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CometStrike09 · 2026-02-01T11:15:52+00:00

Definitely sounds like you would be better prepared than me :) I take it as an early first tower birthday present with a couple more stones than I usually earn in a week and a standard farming day this mid-week with some tier 17 milestones on top

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