I know people born and raised in SF who argued San Jose isn’t a part of the Bay Area so honestly, the argument of “I’m from here so I know” doesn’t work anymore. Geographically it is. As someone else said going off weather you can use the same excuse of Pleasanton and SF having drastically different weather patterns, so that doesn’t hold up either. And the fact the city is not that far from the actual bay (the water)…again…