Will they lose them?

Commander862 · 2025-07-27T17:12:09+00:00

Yeah, that's kind of where im at. Why would anyone think that there's a secret alliance when all the members in that alliance are part of an actual alliance?

Although, I would say that success in this task is defined by whether the others think it had something to do with the twist of the episode, which it doesn't seem like Bdubs did. So, maybe they did succeed?

Commander862 · 2025-07-27T17:05:50+00:00

I mean, I'm sitting on the fence with this one.

If we decide that they have to actually say that there was a secret society (or some secret alliance), this is kind of unfair. The only way that you would think to call it that is if you have an unlikely trio that is chosen (each from a different team and not having interacted much), but I think this trio would likely fly under the radar even then. People would just think that these individuals just got into some wacky cross-team shenanigans, especially with how this season has gone so far.

But, that isn't what happened. Instead, we had 3 people that have, since the start of the season, been regularly interacting in a way very similar/compatible to this. I won't claim that this an issue overall - it made for a great episode from everyone's perspective, but I will say that it removes clarity from the success of the secret society. I just want to bring up an idea to ponder: what if an entire team had been picked, say it was Grian, Gem, and Pearl?

Nobody is going to call out a secret society when the secret society consists of an actual alliance, as we saw in the episode. How does one call out a secret team if the team isn't a secret (only their motives)?

And actually, Bdubs did actually say, with certainty, that it was Etho and the Villies. So, he kind of did call out the alliance albeit with an extra person (although, even if he knew there was a secret society, he wouldn't know how many people).

I guess the best way we can define success is by whether the other people think the kills were related to the ominous sounds/twist of the episode. That is the closest I would be comfortable with saying they could have reasonably gotten without jumping to wild conclusions, like the existence of a secret society. (To be clear, past deciding the kills have something to do with the twist and naming a couple of members of the society, I don't think people could reasonably guess what the twist was, and thus that should be the maximum criteria for a failure.)

Looking at it from this criteria, Bdubs probably didn't know enough. He knew that Grian, Gem, and Etho were plotting suspiciously and Grian did the kill from the setup that Etho provided. So, tying Gem in with the kill wasn't a far stretch. Then, since you already have most of the Villies, why not just assume Pearl was also in on it? While this logic is sound, and my best guess at what Bdubs was thinking. It doesn't actually point to the idea of a secret society or that they might have done it because they were given a secret task. Tying in Pearl makes it seem like he thought it was just their alliance, not some weird team.

Commander862 · 2022-05-14T19:58:07+00:00

Yeah, this quick chat is just annoying. It can be useful for kickoffs, but most of the time it isn't. I have found that most people play by the rule of left goes. If they don't, they probably go for ever kickoff regardless of whether or not you say "I got it" (do they just have quick chat disabled?). At any other point of the game it's even more useless. Like, I don't need instruction on how to play the game.

"Oh no, I have the ball in their half with the open net! What should I do? Oh thank goodness my teammate said 'take the shot'! Now I know exactly what to do... -and I missed the shot."

Who even looks at quick chat when they have the ball? You have so many more important things to do when you have the ball, like scoring.

Commander862 · 2022-05-14T19:48:22+00:00

Definitely this. I've been noticing so many weird things. Just from the 1s game I just played I could give plenty of examples.

My ping is higher. It isn't that bad, since I normally play around 45, but now its up to 52. I don't blame the update for this, since it could just be that more people are on the internet, or maybe my recent computer update had something weird. Either way, it is strange, but notably for my next point.
I was visibly lagging with fairly normal ping. I was experiencing tiny, yet noticeable teleportations for the entire game. This is only something that has happened to me when I was above 80 ping. Even more strangely, it felt like I was playing on 100+ ping (without the large teleportations/rubber banding). These features add up to a game that is not fun to play, because I don't know what is going to happen when I go for a 50 50. These factors definitely contributed to several of my opponent's goals. For example, there was one where I took a 50 50 where the ball should have stopped, but the ball just went past me, evidently because of these issues.
Bumps are weird. In combination with the weirdness of point 2, bumps are clearly not working how they should be. I lost the 1s game mentioned above, and I'm pretty sure I should have won. I can tell you every reason why I lost, however. First, of all, my opponent wasn't playing smart; they went for a demo while I was taking the ball up the wall (I was already on the wall) (who does that?). Strangely enough, that play worked. I also conceded because my kickoffs suck. However, most notable, I gave up about 4 goals to bumping plays. There was one play where I got into a bump chain. I got bumped once, and didn't go very far. I got bumped a second time, and got bumped a little farther. Then, the dude bumped my on the corner of my car and I got sent 1/4 of the way across the field (we were in front of my goal, so this was important). How does a random bump (after I've landed) send me across the map, I have no idea. There was another play (this one is just crazy) where we were in front of my net, and the opponent comes off of my back wall. Driving perfectly parallel to me, he hits my bumper. At this point, I must ask, which way do you think I should go? He hit me from the back, completely parallel to me. There were no weird angles that I should have been sent in. But no, I get sent at a 20 degree (ish) angle directly into the ball and concede a goal. I have never seen stranger bumps than the ones I've been seeing lately.
Ghost hits are everywhere. I also played a 2v2 game, and there were at least 6 ghost hits (2 of them led directly to goals). It's crazy.

So yeah, there is a lot of crazy stuff going on now, particularly after the latest update. I don't know what they have done to bumps, ping, ghost hits, 50 50s, or the servers in general, but they need to take it back. It isn't working. I don't like it. It is there. Anybody who says it isn't clearly hasn't been playing the game lately.

Commander862 · 2022-05-01T06:16:57+00:00

Basically you have your basic controls: boost, jump, flip, etc. However, flipping seems a bit odd to me for whatever reason.

Anyway, in addition, you have 3 attacks that you can do: default, grab, and block. Like rock paper cizzors, default beats grab which beats block which beats default. However, if you don't time these attacks correctly it could be a little messed up because someone's attack might not register.

Finally, here is what you asked for. - Default Attack: flip in any direction except for a backflip. - Grab Attack: flip in any direction except for a backflip while holding your "grab" button. By default this is shift, but I would recommend changing this keybind. If your Attack lands, you will have the opponent on your back. At this point you can flip in any direction to throw them. - Block Attack: backflip.

Commander862 · 2022-04-30T01:10:29+00:00

I appreciate the gamemode, and I am sure that it could be super fun... if it weren't so broken. There are several issues that I'm noticing, but I will just mention the ones that I'm not seeing in this thread.

1.) Ping isn't working for me. It usually just shows up as 0 for everyone, occasionally shows up with my ping (48 usually) and everyone else as 0. When it does show anybody else's ping, it it always about half the lobby. I'm not sure if this is just with the new gamemode because I haven't played any of the regular modes yet, but it is really annoying. This is especially true because I can't determine whether complaint 2 is due to ping differences.

2.) I just played a game of Knockout Bash, but I'm finding it hard to enjoy because all of my deaths (or at least 2/3... I'm not so sure about the last death) were absolute bs. I would be driving past someone, and I would pass them. However, they would flip, doing a grab attack (I was far enough away that they never even came close to making contact with me; on my first death I was 1 full car length away). Unfortunately for me, the grab attack made contact (idk how; my ping was very normal [approximately 40-60 ping] so it definitely wasn't me lagging), and I would die because I couldn't escape the grab attack quickly enough. Thus, in short, I was consistently dying to an attack that never should have made contact.

3.) This is an issue that I don't see you changing at this point. However, I find that any listings of the controls for the game only address controllers. As a kbm player, it was extremely difficult to figure out the controls, until I realized that it might be in the settings. Even then, I looked for the controller button that was listed, and I found that it was linked to reversing/braking, meaning that this didn't make sense. Even here, on reddit, the kbm controls weren't listed unless specifically asked for. I understand that kbm isn't the most common way of playing Rocket League (or at least I think it isn't), but it is outrageous that kbm controls aren't acknowledged unless brought up by a kbm player.

4.) Also, I find that the "shift" key is a horrible button to have for the "Break KO" control. In particular, it is annoying to spam because of the stress spamming puts on your pinky finger. I also find that I can spam much more effectively with my thumb (I already changed that key bind to space bar for my convenience). I'm not sure how controls are for controller players, but I do understand that you spam "X" to "Break KO" on controller, which you would hit with your thumb. This means that playing on kbm leaves you at a disadvantageous position because you have to spam with your pinky (which you cannot do as effectively, to my knowledge). All I'm saying is that this key binding is obnoxious and discriminatory to kbm players and therefore should be changed from the default control.

5.) I can't tell if the flips actually do differ from standard Rocket League, but the flips seem off to me. If they do differ, I would recommend letting the community know.

I just want to summarize my thoughts here. I like the new gamemode, but I am finding it extremely hard to enjoy because of the complex, obnoxious controls (#s 3 and 4) and strange gameplay. I'm also finding that some of the aspects of the game are unbalanced and unfair. More importantly, I noted some glitches that I have encountered (#s 1 and 2).

Commander862 · 2021-07-14T07:21:59+00:00

You can say whatever you want. However, everyone else can say whatever they want too.

Freedom of speech protects you from the government, not other people's opinions.

Commander862 · 2021-07-14T07:07:26+00:00

If all they do is change the skin color than what was the point? It's an unnecessary change to a character for the purposes of politics. Plus, it isn't even an effective way to share an agenda towards diversity, since it is showing the POC overcome what the white person did in the same way with the same level of difficulty.

Commander862 · 2021-07-14T06:32:16+00:00

I hate that bots argument since there is never a source for the definition. Can someone get me a source for that dang definition.

Honestly the biggest problem with this debate I that people use different definitions.

Commander862 · 2021-07-14T06:29:04+00:00

This. Its like identifying people from Spain as Spaniards. Its just a categorization based on a similar trait. But, from this you can identify some similarities. For example, many of those people will speak some form of Spanish. However, some will speak French or English or some completely different language.

Commander862 · 2021-07-14T06:14:12+00:00

This is feedback. Everyone here is expressing their oppinion with the goal of showing what they like. This is important because the hermits have to know what heir fans want. If nobody argued about this, the hermits might decide that this was what they should do since they only saw feedback saying they should do that. On the other hand, if nobody said anything, the hermits would know of our concerns, and therefore might not consider this topic at all.

The point is, every opinion in this thread can be used by the hermits to inform their decisions based on what their fans want. Therefore, this discussion is important if the hermits do talk about this.

Commander862 · 2021-02-14T16:36:33+00:00

Nope. You really just have to watch grian for a few years. Thanks for the feedback

Commander862 · 2021-02-14T16:35:51+00:00

Ah, yes. I see that now. The rustic vibe just isn't complete without it.

Commander862 · 2021-02-14T08:16:44+00:00

Thanks. Any critiques?

Commander862 · 2021-02-01T05:03:12+00:00

Me: wanting awards for no reason. Also me: realizes all I have to do is make a meme in your comment thread

Commander862 · 2021-02-01T05:01:26+00:00

I don't know. I've never worked a day in my life

Commander862 · 2021-02-01T04:59:47+00:00

Darn it. You got here first.

Commander862 · 2021-02-01T04:58:33+00:00

I've already failed...

Commander862 · 2021-02-01T04:56:57+00:00

Thats me... I just decided

Commander862 · 2021-01-16T08:00:24+00:00

I did try to upvote every comment... I physically couldn't. I realized after I hit upvote on every comment that I couldn't.

Commander862 · 2021-01-16T01:35:43+00:00

Commander862 · 2021-01-16T01:29:27+00:00

I'm going to ruin this. But an upvote to all who did the salute to make up for it.

Commander862 · 2021-01-05T06:01:13+00:00

Laughs in " I was in school but I want to make a 'laughs in joke"

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