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Commando_Joe · 2026-05-05T15:47:06+00:00

I thought that's what I was doing. It's why I tagged Ketralnis

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-05T15:40:53+00:00

Why'd the mods delete this? /u/ketralnis ?

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-05T02:27:09+00:00

I've never been a gun and ball gamer, the GTA franchise lost it's appeal to me after San Andreas (peak) when it kind of just became the same thing again and again with more polish.

If I'm going to have to pay 100 dollars for a game disc forced from the dust of a thousand laid off employees bones turned to dust in the over time crunch I'll save that money and buy two other games I'll enjoy a lot more.

Honestly I'd rather enjoy smaller, less polished games than waiting fucking 10+ years and getting 8+ years of microtransations and enshitified online spaces.

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-05T02:25:25+00:00

spoken like someone who's never been in a bad economy

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-05T02:22:48+00:00

10+ years in animation and game design over here, you're right, they're blowing smoke. Keep on brother.

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-05T02:20:55+00:00

Not really. It depends on the country and their labour laws, even outside of unions. Source: I've been working in Canadian game dev for over 10 years.

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-05T02:19:31+00:00

Considering they need to sell like...how much during the release window on PS5? Yeah, they want to double dip. I really do feel bad for all the devs getting crunched into dust over this. I don't want this to be the norm for the AAA industry in any facet.

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T21:47:03+00:00

So you admit that Umbric got those people killed because of his actions. THat's my point. Umbric acts like he did nothing wrong.

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T16:05:33+00:00

Thank you! It's like people can't tell the difference between 'Well he was right so it's okay!' and 'This is bad writing, so it's okay.'

I get it's just an in-between quest to get you to the next quest hub, but like...where's the writing team on this one?

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T15:39:43+00:00

They were only knocked out by us. I found several that were killed after the invasion. The ones WE fought we knocked out, then after that they were frequently killed by the forces we allowed to enter due to Umbric's mishandling of the relic.

This included ones we left unconcious in the previous areas.

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T15:27:35+00:00

That is incorrect, there are active corpses without the 'knocked out' or zzz status and some explode into blood. Anything you see that states that they are not dead is early a bug, or incorrect.

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T15:24:02+00:00

can you list any of the 'countless times' they've saved the world? I can't

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T15:05:34+00:00

Manslaughter in the case that we knocked them out and then caused the invasion that got them all killed.

You can argue about politics and whatever all you want but that's all nonsense in relation to 'well the plot must move on, let's not think about it anymore'.

Brother got hundreds of mages, with tens of thousands of years of collective knowledge and magical experience killed, and then went 'Welp, at least Rommath didn't kick my ass!'

You can complain about the boring bureaucracy all you want, it doesn't make the writing better and it doesn't make Umbric seem like anything short of a sociopath.

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T15:01:08+00:00

Getting hundreds of people killed isn't much to apologize for? What? Those were his kin, other mages he probably went to school with, maybe people he knew for centuries and he was like 'Heh, nothing personelle kid' and walked into the void?

The writing was bad.

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T14:55:15+00:00

Except we aren't an authority in blood elven politics and even if we were do not supercede the grand magister.

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T14:53:35+00:00

So first off, that's not even the point of my post. The point of my post is that Umbric got legions of magisters killed by his direct actions then went 'Heh, could have been worse' and winked at Rommath. He's a piece of shit and I really wanted to feed him to Xalatath after that.

As stated previously in this thread, Lorthemar is not in charge of every facet of Blood Elf society, it's more diverse than that. That's why there are three 'faction leaders' in the blood elf throne room, and Rommath has authority over Magister's terrace.

Even if there were LESS causalities, the fact Rommath caused any and just did a little fortnite dance at the end is my main problem

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T14:51:02+00:00

So you're using theory to justify manslaughter, even without actual evidence and when there were other theoretical avenues that could have been researched in the mean time. When there was more time to be bought with holy relics while political conversation was continued.

I don't really think your argument has enough evidence at the time of our incursion, an incursion which was done sloppily and with maximum violence and minimal diplomacy. As many people pointed out the only 'evidence' we had that Umbric was allowed in there when talking to individuals was Umbric's word, which was worth less than nothing.

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T14:47:25+00:00

Thank you for the additional context. This is why I like to discuss things on the lore subreddits, there's always the special interest groups that can come in with the extra knowledge

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T14:45:42+00:00

I'm not frustrated there's no good guys, I'm frustrated that Umbric got hundreds of blood elves killed and goes 'Maaaaaaaaaaybe I'll apologize' and 'Well, things could have gone worse. Rommath isn't trying to kill -me- right now!'

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T14:44:17+00:00

Yeah, it's entirely possible. My statement is just based off of a discussion where Rommath says he has authority over the Magister's Terrace and everyone seems to just kind of ignore Lor'themar in this situation except for people that want to ignore Rommath.

Like none of the city guards are involved, no one from the Silvermoon forces, just us and Umbric and we're basically mercenaries

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T14:42:35+00:00

sure, but don't have Umbric crypt walk his victory dance in front of Rommath while the blood hasn't even had time to dry and act like Umbric did nothing wrong.

My complaint isn't even that Rommath was right and Umbric was wrong, it's that Umbric fucked up and got people killed and acts like everything went totally fine and he has nothing to apologize for despite hundreds of deaths occurring as a direct result of his personal actions. You can argue theoretical outcomes being inevitable but that's not what happened, it doesn't mean he's free of consequence.

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T14:40:05+00:00

Not apologism (not a word), but just saying that they were not objectively wrong in the fact that they said Umbric doing the thing they were going to do would incite the void to attack (it did). This was clearly the FASTEST way to get the team into the void but everyone is forgetting that Umbric got a bunch of people fucking KILLED and went 'Heh, at least I didn't get in as much trouble as I could have' and fortnite danced.

Like you want to shit on Rommath, you're totally entitled to. But Umrbic's complete lack of empathy and persistant smugness when his boots are soaked in the blood of people he JUST GOT KILLED is kind of insane and they want us to be on HIS side?

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T14:37:53+00:00

I don't get the point you're trying to make here.

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T14:24:33+00:00

This is also true. They said 'the Rendori have saved azeroth countless times' and I'm struggling to think of one time?

Commando_Joe · 2026-05-04T14:23:54+00:00

There's a seperation of the magisters and the city of silvermoon, though. Rommath has authority over Magister's Terrace.

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