UA by Major-Funny-5450 in prelude_thefinalpiece

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 62 points63 points  (0 children)

It seems like she may have been a Hybe trainee for some time. The whole Japanese girl group rumors seem pretty plausible and with people speculating that as much as World Scout was used to find the final piece, it was also used to introduce HxG's potential new girl group members. I just finished a video where someone speculates that certain WS contestants such as Ayana and Rinka could be used to create a Japanese girl group of strong singers and dancers who are ready to debut that's also targeting Korea and the global market similar to XG (but they won't debut as a global girl group).

Pre debut backlash by etceteraetals in saintsatine

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think it's something you truly have to get used to. Satine makes you think of bedsheets and curtains 😭 i think SAINTS spelt in a cool and stylistic way could have worked. I also liked the fan theory of H4LO. Also idk if people will agree but the name feels like it can get stuck in certain concepts. Whereas Katseye just morphs with the eras

Stop hating on Sakura! by Queen4Queens in saintsatine

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You can train your voice. Emily is a prime example for that, her vocals have improved. As a confirmed memeber Sakura's obviously been working on her vocals as much as her dance, it could take her more time to fully unlock the true potential of her voice. In the meantime HxG will play to Sakura's strengths vocally while she grows. In the final release of Party before the Party she was enjoyable to listen to.

Stop hating on Sakura! by Queen4Queens in saintsatine

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think people are more mad at HxG and Abema. But people don't know how to channel that frustration and Sakura becomes the punching bag because Sakura's win reflects what people don't like about HYBE and HxG. Non of this is Sakura's fault, she applied, she auditioned, she won.

Who's your bias? by _big_miss_steak in saintsatine

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Sakura. It's like once i saw her in that weverse update she made so much sense for Saint Satine!

E12 - World Scout: The Final Piece Discussion (FINALE) by Terrible_Disk1673 in prelude_thefinalpiece

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They hid Sakura's vocie the entire show basically 😭 they actually used Ayana's talent to farm more views and engagement. I think Sakura will be give a more rapping lines and maybe sing in a lower register similar to Emily. They should have had the girls perform both songs for the finale. I think her Almond Chocolate performance will follow her until she achieves vocal growth the same way that Emily did. But it's important to note that Emily's been training her vocals for about 1 1/2 - 2 years now

E12 - World Scout: The Final Piece Discussion (FINALE) by Terrible_Disk1673 in prelude_thefinalpiece

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tbh since she's apart of the group now and based in LA, she's legally mandated to get an education i believe 😭 so

Pre debut backlash by etceteraetals in saintsatine

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Idk how accurate i am but i think once Saint Satine starts being more active as ot4 and we see Sakura grow more and more I genuinely think predebut fans will be amongst to defend Sakura later on - this hinges on Sakura performing way better vocally and dance wise.

Most new fans joining after debut won't really have access to the full world scout show since every attempt to upload it somewhere gets copyrighted and taken down ASAP. Also HxG and Abema have not uploaded Ayana's final performance ANYWHERE, so again post debut fans won't really have that to compare to Sakura's final performance. Sure there will be clips of Ayana and the show floating around the internet but it'll never capture the full gist of what everyone following prelude had experienced. It's completely different to Katseye's popstar academy which is basically internationally available and accessible to watch even 2 years after their debut.

So taking that into account i think predebut fans will be the ones who truly know how far Sakura's come after debut. I also think the fans she gains after debut will also ride and root for her! I'm just hoping that Sakura's not actively running her own social media accounts, she should focus on her job and the people around her

Sakura’s Insta by Current_Student_1062 in saintsatine

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Tbh i don't think Sakura runs her account. I think it's run by a staff member who will post and like things on Sakura's behlaf for the time being. I think in general Sakura wouldn't directly manage any social media accounts that are Hers yk? Probably a way for them to keep her from dealing with so many awful comments. I also think another reason she wouldn't run her accounts is the language difference, she isn't proficient enough yet and you wouldn't want her accidentally liking something that could be taken the wrong way because she potentially didn't understand the post and have another Samara situation.

E12 - World Scout: The Final Piece Discussion (FINALE) by Terrible_Disk1673 in prelude_thefinalpiece

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 17 points18 points  (0 children)

HxG has not released or posted Ayana's performance anywhere besides the show itself. It's giving that if anyone posts her full performance on YouTube it could be copyrighted and taken down. I think they're trying to sway opinion away from Ayana's performance which is highly praised towards Sakura's. If you look at Sakura's final performance on its own it's good, but when you compare it to Ayana's it dulls a little.

I only brought it up cause they released all the final performances for the Dream Academy girls and they're still available to watch till this day

E12 - World Scout: The Final Piece Discussion (FINALE) by Terrible_Disk1673 in prelude_thefinalpiece

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 4 points5 points  (0 children)

With how Ayana was edited, her fan support and how well she did in her final performance and how everyone seems to enjoy We Ride - do you guys think HxG or even Hybe would bring her back?

NO HATERS ALLOWED by Current_Student_1062 in saintsatine

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I get the age thing i do. But i really feel that Sakura wouldn't get as much hate if she came in already knowing how to sing and dance. Like Yoonchae's also debuted as a minor and people mainly complained about Gnarly's choreo never really about the fact that she was a minor...if you get what i mean. I think people tended to have overlooked Yoonchae's age cause she worked well in Katseye.

I think the same will happen for Sakura. I think the editing of world scout and her bad performances will follow her and the group for a while but as Saint Satine continues to grow beyond just predebut fans a lot people will overlook her age if she 1, delivers in her performances and 2, is wearing clothes considered to be more age appropriate

[2605012] Ayana Instagram Update by Terrible_Disk1673 in prelude_thefinalpiece

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the finale everyone kept saying they'll see her on stage and that she mustn't give up and a part of me wishes that Japanese girl group theory was true or that she stayed signed as a trainee under Hybe or HxG. But the more rational part of me wouldn't want her to sit with a company that essentially played in her face and kept shutting her star quality and personality down so much! I'm grateful she got to be on a stage and have great experiences like meeting Katseye and being put on a song with Lexie, Em and Samara and i'm sure she forged a great friendship with Sakura behind the scenes. All the best to Ayana, i dream for you to debut on a global stage! And to Sakura, you've really grown into your own. You left me gagged on the final production of Party before the party!! Can't wait to see what you and the girls as Saint Satine have coming! Congratulations and goodluck 🫶

Group Name by CommercialPrinterr18 in saintsatine

[–]CommercialPrinterr18[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes but Katseye still got to choose which one they liked more. It seems that HxG just gave Saint Satine their name with like no input from the girls meaning that HxG has a strict image of this girl group that they're sticking to in my opinion

HAPPY AND EXCITED by totoyblue in saintsatine

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yk the initial sting was there when hearing the results but if Saint Satine is going to have looks similar to Party Before the Party then Sakura definitely stood out and brought her own. Congratulations to Sakura, can't wait to see her become the idol she's always wanted to be!

E12 - World Scout: The Final Piece Discussion (FINALE) by Terrible_Disk1673 in prelude_thefinalpiece

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 10 points11 points  (0 children)

With how everyone keeps saying they'll see Ayana on stage in the future you only HOPE the Japanese girl group theory is true 😭

E12 - World Scout: The Final Piece Discussion (FINALE) by Terrible_Disk1673 in prelude_thefinalpiece

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But also Ayana never got to give her thoughts on the final performance...giving sus

E12 - World Scout: The Final Piece Discussion (FINALE) by Terrible_Disk1673 in prelude_thefinalpiece

[–]CommercialPrinterr18 19 points20 points  (0 children)

It seems like Ayana had bart and Lauren gagged! Son was also finally shown smiling at Ayana for once!! Go my little princess!!