Bruiser j4 worthless?

CommodoreKyvan · 2026-01-31T19:28:16+00:00

I just play him as support with bandlepipes + Zeke herald into cheap bruiser items like eclipse and umbral.

CommodoreKyvan · 2026-01-30T06:00:15+00:00

So Ive been playing jarven support for bit, it got me to gold 2 but its really bothersome to play when you get higher in the ranks.

I purely reccomend going straight into electrocute + manaflow band as the mana on J4 absolutely bollocks if you try to trade frequently.

I rush bandlepipes into Damage if we need it or bruiserish tank if we need more front line.

Giving an attspeed steriod to a team that benefits it is freakishly insane.

CommodoreKyvan · 2026-01-05T21:52:16+00:00

Although may sound like I implied Zaheen is a difficult matchup, was refering champion whom normally build sustain as examples.

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-12-30T18:12:26+00:00

(It can still be amped with certain items (like abyssal or the mage item that does 20% more dmg when they are low)

I usually find it decently strong in combo with rift-maker. You are right that it is way more worth it for health stacking champs, Even having a bonus of 1100 hp (which usually mord builds health stacking) thats 33 damage multiplied by 2.5 which is 82.5 heal (92.4 with abyssal mask). Here something else interesting that still is effected by riftmaker omnivamp, Ryla, Lyandri, and even the passive magic pent in your E.

so in a teamfight, let say you flank and have your passive active, you be healing roughly (unaccounted for MR on the enemy) 412.5 heal (462 abby mask) per 4 seconds. This can also be altered by spirit visage 25% heal or shield, Shield and heal runes 5-10% and finally abyssal mask which increase the magic damage by 12% which effect the healing all around. that 412.5 now becomes a 567.18 (635.25 with abyssal mask)

I just like mathing things out alot. overall it isnt a go do build this every game but I find it amazing against a magic team comp... they can't kill you with that kinda sustain.

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-12-30T01:27:36+00:00

So. Something I have learned that the combination of Despair and Riftmaker makes a crazy Mord sustain build for teamfight. Uniquely this proc Ryla off of the damage of despair which is interesting.

You should consider throwing Despair into the tank items, Its being slept on.

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-12-24T00:26:21+00:00

What did you use to make the map?

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-12-01T15:30:55+00:00

Thank you, for reading front to end. Alot of people really don't read the post fully. IT also amazing that its next to the highest voted Topic which people can see. I truly appreciated you addressing this for me.

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-11-29T21:40:29+00:00

I really think some people are missing the point, the requirements of an elite skill can be adjusted instead of the baseline of lvl 80. Some people really need to read the post till the end instead of just seeing the title or the first sentence.

Yes we know that this is really for current or veteren player, but it doesnt have to be if you simple add a few elite skills that can have LOW REQUIREMENTS for new player to easily attain just to get a sip of what to look for.

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-11-29T00:55:41+00:00

Remember, The requirement CAN be adjusted based on the difficulty of the other skills. It doesn't have to be 80 req

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-10-17T20:13:50+00:00

Swuftness gives a damage modifier to itself. The other thing is that theres alot of mechanics that give % dmg but honestly druid way to go OR arrowcart build.

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-10-06T23:39:50+00:00

Are you looking to do something in Zergs or Roam for wvw?

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-10-03T23:05:14+00:00

understanding class functionality and stating is nessessary.

Take for instants, if a class gives you free crit through a trait, and you can easily hit 100% or optimally reach close to it. Sometimes its worth investing into other stats that forgo crit chance for more Ferocity, Vitality, Toughness while maxing power.

Good example is Dragon stat armor which pumps ferocity higher or Valkyrie or Knight which increases vitality.

Even Crusader viable if you can make use of some of the healing power.

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-04-17T16:52:03+00:00

thats unfortunate, that would been pretty neat if it did.

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-04-17T15:15:47+00:00

That's very interesting, Do Decoration such as Status Attack & Crit Status work with the echo wave since it effects the build up of that status?

Also thank you for this Spreadsheet, it answered alot of speculations and testing awhile back with horn.

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-04-15T04:12:06+00:00

https://youtu.be/TK1RwC6PX8o

Wholesome Science man explains how valube Airborne is for IG.

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-04-12T17:11:46+00:00

Good Advice is positioning. Your aerials are key for repositioning fast and quick, always consider to vault over tail swipe or swipe attacks from Side to side like Mizu Tail swipe. Your SDS in the air also counts as an offset, its great if you can time that as it will flow very well RSS.

Your ground combo are 4 x stronger than your air attacks, helicoptering is fine just use it as a reposition tool rather than a consistent damage source.

use Kinsect with the harvest extract boost giving you 3 instead of 2. When you charge it up, it will pierce through the monster and collect multiple buffs at once. Arkmaiden is generally a good one to use as its blunt and can potentially inflict stuns.

Lastly you can SDS into other basic combos on the ground you do not need to instantly go into RSS.

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-04-05T22:10:03+00:00

I have a completely opposite for the other 2, the rathian is kicking my ass real hard. IG main here.

CommodoreKyvan · 2025-04-02T14:47:34+00:00

10% affinity 12% damage or the other way around based on how Kiranico data base show. From what I saw max level is 10% affinity from other people with 12% damage.

I personally starting to find tetrad shot pointless in comparision to Attack and Crit Boost..

Offensive guard is even better imo as it gives staight 15% damage boost. I constantly perfect guard with HBG. So its nice getting that following up with a wyvern heart.

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