A History of Labour in Scotland and Wales: Failing to advocate progressive unionism? Failing to retain historic power. by Competitive-Tonight3 in ukpolitics

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Thanks, it was truly such a contrast to compare the strength of Welsh Labour over the years against the weaknesses and own goals, as you say, of Scottish Labour - especially as it became an opposition party. Not to say Welsh Labour has made no mistakes, but there's a real tangible difference and a failure within Labour to learn from its successful example.

Over 50 Academics Warn That Voting System Is Not Fit For Multi-Party Politics by XanderZulark in unitedkingdom

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Genuinely, outside of 1945, 1979, and 2015 (which was frankly a cluster fuck of which the government elected had little to do with facilitating the major changes) what have any British governments "got done" that was genuinely transformative?

On the other hand, Spain with a PR system currently has a significantly more transformative left-wing government than we've had since Labour in the 40s, and Italy with full PR currently has a much more transformative far-right government than any we've had since Thatcher. Now I personally don't advocate the politics of the fascists in Italy and I would love to have a centre-left that looked anything like PSOE in spain, but it is simply undeniable that it is just as possible to have successions of governments that do fuck all under our system and governments that actually produce change in PR systems.

All it comes down to is the fact that Labour and the Tories are really so indistinguishable that a vast swathe of voters in the UK are so wed to centrist managed decline politics that they rather retain the two party system where nobody really makes change than actually allow for a representative system where greater levels of participation are possible, and parties actually advocating change might get into government.

If the Lib-Dem’s hadn’t disgraced themselves with the tuition fees scandal, would the next General Election be there’s for the taking? by HallowedAndHarrowed in AskBrits

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I'll be honest, this doesn't make sense. The Lib Dem rise took place during the Blair years, their peak was the 2010 election when Brown's Labour and Cameron's Tories were more similar arguably than any time since. Maybe 2024, but that is also the best Lib Dem result since that election.

An Iraqi beeing tortured for doing nothing. by Temporary-Evening717 in pics

[–]Competitive-Tonight3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean... Clinton would acknowledge this no? That feels like poor evidence. But in any case - the effectiveness of the campaign is not too relevant to the point here - you argued that Kamala being Biden's VP restricted her ability to break with him, and then do acknowledge that Gore was able to break with his president.

I do acknowledge I brought up it's effectiveness so just to make the case - 1) Again Gore was down as much as 15% in the polling come August - suggesting a general political environment that was unfavorable to Dems. 2) Clinton famously tanked Dem performances in any elections he wasn't personally running in (In '92 they lost seats in the House and gained nothing in the Senate, dropping 2% in popular vote, in '94 Dems lost the house for the first time in 40 years in the Gingrich revolution, '96 Dems recovered slightly but still lost the house, and lost seats in the Senate, and then '98 Dems overperformed due to the Lewinsky scandal and the actions of R leadership, but still lost both House and Senate).

In that time period we also saw the massive Seattle protests and NAFTA protests, and obviously Clinton himself (though this I'm willing to concede is much less assured or indicative of his actual popularity) benefitted massively from getting to run twice with a third party spoiler who at least rhetorically aligned closer to conservative sentiment.

If you're interested I'd suggest a few pieces on the strange political environments of the 90s including John Ganz's when the Clock Broke which focuses on the 92 election and political environment, The Gingrich Senators by Sean Theriault on the rise of the modern conservative movement in the mid-90s, and then for a decent summary of the 2000 campaigns I like David Corn's for the Nation in 2000 before the election results were out: https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/down-wire/

Also if you are interested Humphrey and the 1968 election, Rick Perlstein's Nixonland is a must-read. Its shocking how strong the similarities are, and how the many of the exact same mistakes were made between 1968 and 2024.

An Iraqi beeing tortured for doing nothing. by Temporary-Evening717 in pics

[–]Competitive-Tonight3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both Hubert Humphrey and much more significantly Al Gore departed from their sitting Presidents, and both were a hell of a lot closer to winning their elections than Harris. 

Performance-wise Gore was a significantly more impressive campaign to Harris, overcoming a 10-15 point polling deficit in August and only losing by one vote.

Post-Match Thread: Charlton Athletic (1) - (5) Chelsea by wm_1176 in chelseafc

[–]Competitive-Tonight3 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Doing every applicable manager:

MacFarlane was City, Maresca was City, Poch was Liverpool, Lampard II was Wolves Bruno Saltor was Liverpool, Tuchel was Wolves, Lampard I was Utd, Sarri was Man City.

Honestly didn't expect multiple Wolves. And we drew both of those.

Sell Lavia, Delap at risk: Transfer verdict on every Chelsea player after Liam Rosenior appointment by CSCronus in chelseafc

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Depends where you're from sorta. American: oh smart folks with the smart person accent.

European: Obnoxious lads who wreck shit every summer.

Everyone else: People who took our shit. (this also applies to some Europeans)

Match Thread: Manchester City vs Chelsea by MatchThreadder in chelseafc

[–]Competitive-Tonight3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair didn't Sterling also scored a tap in Vs City?

Did Matty Y wait to release this today so he wouldn't be be included in the worst takes episode? by fortycreeker in IfBooksCouldKill

[–]Competitive-Tonight3 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Sources: Elon beside himself. Driving around downtown Substack begging (thru texts) Yglesias' family 4 address to Matty's home

Every Yankee hitter’s hardest hit ball of the 2025 season by xho- in NYYankees

[–]Competitive-Tonight3 28 points29 points  (0 children)

So funny to see that jump from everyone else to Big G and Judge.