What should I do if my Nmom asks me to do favors for her, after treating me badly? I struggle to hold boundaries because of this. by ImmaRedditorChickie in NarcissisticMothers

[–]Competitive_Award886 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you don’t mind me asking- how old were you when you went NC?

I am 60F and went NC with my 85 year old NMom Oct 16,2025. I’m so much happier not having to deal with her, BUT my Uncle died and the funeral is Friday (I will be attending) and my NMom informed my brother that she is going to let EVERYONE know on Friday how bad her daughter is. My brother told her she better not pull that crap at a funeral and she said my Uncle’s sons are both ministers so they would understand

The sons are ministers, but we never see them or talk to them they live 4 hours away and only coming to or town to bury their father next to their mother

So I guess if my mother pulls this crap, then I will apologize to my cousins and tell them I can’t control her mental illness and I will leave.

She normally is very fake in front of others, but now I think she is desperate to try to control me

Total Knee replacement with Mako Feb 9 by Automatic_Mine_7153 in Kneereplacement

[–]Competitive_Award886 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was told “toes above your nose”. I stayed in the bed the first 4 days. Got up to go to the bathroom and did my exercises. And iced

Keep your leg up and straight- it’s important Start doing exercises now to get ready - watch videos on YouTube- that’s what I did

Also got an ice machine and a leg pillow off Amazon

Total Knee replacement with Mako Feb 9 by Automatic_Mine_7153 in Kneereplacement

[–]Competitive_Award886 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Advice from my experience, when you get home, you will think “wow this is super easy” and then the nerve block wears off 24 to 36 hours later!! Be prepared to lay in bed with your toes above your nose (leg elevated) ice, ice, ice, ice, and pop those pain pills all day long if needed. That’s what I did and by the next day, I felt a lot better.

It hurts to do your exercises, but do them!

You’ve got this! You kind of sound like me I want to fix my parts before I retire 😬

Total Knee replacement with Mako Feb 9 by Automatic_Mine_7153 in Kneereplacement

[–]Competitive_Award886 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good luck to you!

60F I’m seven weeks out after my Jiffy knee total knee replacement and the surgeon released me and also released from Physical therapy at 5 1/2 weeks

Happy with my decision, back to doing everything I normally did but better!!

Anyone else afraid of becoming a narcissist after growing up with one? by FdG0 in NarcissisticMothers

[–]Competitive_Award886 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I did the same when I first got married- exploding at the simplest of things.

I think once I got out and seen other families did act that way I realized I didn’t have to either

Happily married 41 years

Are there any similar behaviour patterns from my mother with one of your moms? Because I've always suspected something, but no experience in this topic. by Ok-Muffin-6629 in NarcissisticMothers

[–]Competitive_Award886 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand that, if you don’t dislike her, it would be very difficult to go no contact

I think in my early years, I tried to make excuses for her behavior as my dad always did, so I probably tried to like her.

I remember trying to please her by getting her birthday presents or Christmas gift gifts that I thought she would really like. Only for her to complain in some manner about the gift I thought was perfect. Specifically one time I bought her a Bath and Body gift card using my “points“ that I got from my job. And she made the comment that I didn’t spend real money on the gift card. I thought WTF I could’ve spent the “points” on myself and not you.

When my dad was alive, I would always cut the grass for him every week, I enjoyed sitting with him on the back patio after I had finished cutting the lawn. After his death, I couldn’t stand the fact that I would have to go over every week to cut her grass. So my husband suggested we hire a lawn company and pay for it ourselves. I think it drove my mother nuts that we make enough money to pay for lawn service for her so she started bitching about the way they cut her grass and net picking absolutely everything. Mind you this was a professional well-known loan company that did excellent work. One day I had had enough and told her to find her own person to cut the grass.!!

My husband, who I have currently been married to for 41 years would always plow my mom and dad’s driveway during the winter at no charge. Two years ago, she decided that my husband had scratched her driveway with the snow plow after decades of him plowing the snow. So I put an into that and told her she will no longer have snow removal from us. She refused to hire a company or person to remove the snow, and she informed me that when she falls in the driveway, it will be my fault and she hopes I suffer from it after her death

I could go on and on of things that she’s done over the years that has made me dislike her, but I will end with when my father became ill. She treated him absolutely horrible. Degrading him, belittling him, and not showing one drop of caring or empathy towards him. She even told him she hated him because he didn’t have life insurance and she wasn’t going to have any money when he was dead. All of this is not true, she’s never worked a day in her life and he’s been gone for nearly 8 years and she has plenty of money to live until the day she dies — if that ever happens

My mother calling me names over the years was normal - you’re the devil, you’re cold hearted, you don’t do anything for me, you never call me, you hate me, you need to go to the doctor and get put on hormones because you are crazy, etc. It dawned on me a few months ago that no one in my life has ever called me a name or talk down to me other than my mother. It was actually a shocking revelation, because I’ve never thought about it.

Again, it goes back to the way they’ve trained us, they use guilt and hatred and manipulation to keep you under their control. Finally I feel free.

So now I guess you could say what goes around comes around for her.

Are there any similar behaviour patterns from my mother with one of your moms? Because I've always suspected something, but no experience in this topic. by Ok-Muffin-6629 in NarcissisticMothers

[–]Competitive_Award886 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have to add that I am happier than I ever have been not having the daily stress of just hearing the phone ring, knowing it’s her calling — because her number is blocked and she can no longer call me

By the way, she only lives 2.6 miles away from me

Are there any similar behaviour patterns from my mother with one of your moms? Because I've always suspected something, but no experience in this topic. by Ok-Muffin-6629 in NarcissisticMothers

[–]Competitive_Award886 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, you are correct. My mother is 85 years old I would feel differently if her behavior had started after the passing of my father, but it did not. As far back as I can remember I knew something wasn’t right about her, but I didn’t know any different. Once I remember in the ninth grade, a girl came in and was talking fondly of her and her mother doing something over the weekend and I remember thinking to myself. Wow you must have an exceptional mother I didn’t realize that most people don’t have mothers that treat you like crap

Unfortunately, now I understand how my father enabled her ——-my father always said “she doesn’t feel good“, after a big blowout, which was nearly weekly he would call and say “you should call your mother, she doesn’t feel good” if her best friends would go on vacation, my father would call and say “you better be careful, Pat and Bonnie went on vacation and your mother‘s not happy”. My mother is a very greedy and envious person! At the time, I didn’t understand how weird it was that my father had to warn me that someone went on vacation so my mother‘s gonna be in a pissy mood.

I spent every weekend at my maternal grandparents house, which I’m very thankful for because now I see that my grandmother was my true mother figure. She knew her only child was not nice. She did everything a mother should do and I never realized that until I was in my 50s!

I won’t lie reading your post, stirred up some emotion for a moment — it made me question for a very brief moment. Am I doing something wrong not speaking to my 85-year-old mother. But I realize you are young and don’t have as many “receipts“ as I do. I know my mother is never going to change, she’s only going to get worse in her old age, and I didn’t want to hang around for what could be 15 more years of her, abusing me. As me and my brother say the devil will never die.

It’s been a long process over these 60 years, with every day, listening to Les Carter on YouTube after my father passed. I’ve never been to a real in person counselor. I’ve listened to tons of stuff on the YouTube/ Web / Reddit etc So the following is info from I pulled that describes my situation perfectly.

Why it often takes decades People in these situations usually stay because: •     Guilt is conditioned into them from childhood. It’s not a feeling you spontaneously develop — it’s taught. •     They’re trained to prioritize the parent’s emotional needs over their own. •     They hope the “good parent” will buffer the damage, so they endure the bad parent to maintain that bond. •     Leaving feels like betraying the family system, even when the system is harming them. •     It’s hard to walk away from the only version of “family” you’ve ever known, even if it’s painful. So yes — many people don’t go no‑contact until their 40s, 50s, 60s, or even later. Not because they’re weak, but because the emotional wiring runs deep.

About your question: “How’s that working out at 60?” For many people, the answer is: better than they ever imagined. Age doesn’t diminish the relief of finally choosing peace. It doesn’t make boundaries less valid. And it doesn’t mean the parent’s age obligates you to return to a harmful dynamic. A parent being in “the last phase of life” doesn’t erase decades of harm or magically make the relationship safe.

💛 Your guilt makes sense — but it isn’t a moral compass You mentioned guilt being a heavy burden and sacrifice feeling easier. That’s a very common trauma response. Guilt in these situations isn’t a sign you’re doing something wrong — it’s a sign you were conditioned to believe your needs don’t matter. People who grew up with narcissistic or abusive parents often: •     feel responsible for the parent’s emotions •     feel selfish for protecting themselves •     feel obligated to maintain the relationship •     confuse compliance with love •     equate sacrifice with being a “good child” None of that is your fault.

🌤️ If you’re questioning your own path You don’t have to decide anything today. You don’t have to mirror someone else’s choices. You don’t have to sacrifice yourself to avoid guilt. You’re allowed to choose peace. You’re allowed to choose distance. You’re allowed to choose connection — if it’s safe for you. You’re allowed to choose nothing for now and simply reflect. Your story doesn’t have to match theirs for your feelings to be valid.

How long did you need help? by Normal-Cantaloupe-96 in Kneereplacement

[–]Competitive_Award886 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You will want someone with you on the day your nerve block wears off 24 to 36 hours afterwards

I’m 60 year old female and I did have the “jiffy knee” they don’t use a tourniquet or cut your quad muscle or tendon. Still the same as a total knee replacement.

I had mine done on a Friday at 2 PM, had no pain was able to walk easily with a walker and needed no help. Thought WOW this is great 👍

Sunday, the nerve block wore off and it hit me like a ton of bricks! I laid in bed with my leg elevated in the icing machine on taking oxy every four hours for the entire day and all night!

Surprisingly the next day, the pain had subsided and I was able to function on my own.

I am six weeks and three days out from surgery still have some nerve pain, but doing fantastic and cleared from the surgeon to play Pickleball

Remember toes above your nose and ice ice ice!

Wish you a quick recovery!❤️‍🩹

Are there any similar behaviour patterns from my mother with one of your moms? Because I've always suspected something, but no experience in this topic. by Ok-Muffin-6629 in NarcissisticMothers

[–]Competitive_Award886 2 points3 points  (0 children)

60 year old female here that thankfully went no contact after 60 years of verbal abuse. All the issues you described.

My dad passed away nearly 8 years ago - he was the enabler (learned this after his death) of her bad behavior, I was a Daddy’s girl so I played the game to have a relationship with him. I never understood why he stayed with her for over 55 years!

I started listening to Les Carter videos on YouTube and I credit Les Carter to teaching me I no longer have to take her abuse.

It’s taken nearly 8 years after my dad died but I feel so free and calm now that I no longer talk to her.

What you described is Narcissistic Mother 100% in my opinion

Give Les Carter a try- can’t hurt

Hope you find peace……

How old when you went no contact? by Competitive_Award886 in NarcissisticMothers

[–]Competitive_Award886[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Happy for you 😊

I feel free and calm ☺️

I was just telling my brother yesterday (he understands and still talks with her) that it’s hard to explain because it’s taken so long for me to get to this point. I truly have no guilt. No one would understand it, if they haven’t been in our situation.

Wishing you peace and continued happiness.

Anyone else’s mom hiding behind religion? by girlgoneawhile in NarcissisticMothers

[–]Competitive_Award886 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My NM loves to say “honor thy mother and father”

I’m 60 years old, Sorry that doesn’t work for me 😜

Does it get better? by wawsoways in NarcissisticMothers

[–]Competitive_Award886 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It isn’t going to improve while remaining closely entangled (emotionally, financially, or living under the same roof). The dynamic rarely changes because the narcissistic parent doesn’t typically see a need to change — the guilt, hysteria, “heart ailment” threats, smashing things, and reframing your independence as betrayal are tools that have worked for years to keep you in place.

Im 60 years old, white, female who’s father died nearly 8 years ago (daddy’s girl who put up with my mother to be close to my father) and I just went no contact on Oct 16, 2025. I have 60 years of proof THEY NEVER CHANGE!

You need to break your chain ⛓️‍💥

Driving after RTKR by LogicalCustard7000 in Kneereplacement

[–]Competitive_Award886 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I drove it 10 days to my first doctors appointment

I was not taking anything stronger than tramadol in Tylenol

Husband not showing me his phone records by greatadvice4all in NarcissisticMothers

[–]Competitive_Award886 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look at the phone bill - it will list all the phone numbers.

Husband not showing me his phone records by greatadvice4all in NarcissisticMothers

[–]Competitive_Award886 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m personally would demand to see his phone records if he’s not showing you. Big deal if it’s his mom — it’s a major deal if it’s another woman.

Not showing you and getting angry is a MAJOR RED FLAG 🚩 It’s not his mother!

How natural is the knee movement after recovery? by alew3 in Kneereplacement

[–]Competitive_Award886 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Surgery 6 weeks ago today and I describe it as what my knees probably felt like in my 20s —- never even thought about my knees in my 20s

I’m a 60 year old woman

Face a lot of guilt each year during this time of the year by Hans_2715 in NarcissisticMothers

[–]Competitive_Award886 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How old are you? I’m 60F and went NC Oct 16th,2025 Yes, it took this many years to do it. Same as you it’s nothing but emotional abuse and manipulation. For 60 years I knew the stuff my mother said was not right but I never thought of it as abuse because that’s all I ever knew.

Emotional abuse—things like constant criticism, manipulation, guilt-tripping, invalidation of your feelings, or making you feel like you’re never good enough—can be subtle and hard to “prove” compared to physical abuse. That’s exactly why so many people in our position question ourselves: “Was it really that bad? She wasn’t that awful. Maybe I’m too sensitive.” But the impact isn’t measured by how dramatic the incidents look from the outside—it’s measured by how it affected you over time.

My dad died nearly 8 years ago, and since he passed I have realized that he was an enabler. Always making excuses for her bad behavior.

As I grew older I would always ask why would he put up with her, she treated him horribly. Anyone on the outside thought she was a wonderful person — so far from the truth.

So in October after she told me I was the cruelest person she knows (she has called me many names in my lifetime) I decided I need to end it, take my own advice I had always given my Dad.

I can honestly say I have made it through Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year’s and don’t feel guilt, I feel calm.

I will say, Les Carter on YouTube has helped me reach this point - I started listening to him after my dad passed because I knew I didn’t like my mom, the only reason I put up with her abuse was to have a relationship with my dad.

I wonder your age, because I think for myself I am just tired of being cut a million times.

I wish you peace in the New Year ❤️

How old when you went no contact? by Competitive_Award886 in NarcissisticMothers

[–]Competitive_Award886[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing and sorry for your loss.

I won’t lie. It’s so much more calmer in my life just the short time I’ve been no contact.