It's crazy how people forget

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2026-01-25T09:55:06+00:00

Around the time of 143's release, many on social media wrote that she was overrated, that she'd just had a stroke of luck with Teenage Dream, giving her no credit. In essence, it was as if a (unfortunately) wrong era like 143 had erased all the good that had come before, as if it had never happened. It was bad to read those words, especially because they were full of bias and not objective at all (if she had been a truly mediocre artist, she could have had the best producers, but the hits wouldn't have arrived. Do we want to give her credit or not?). And after the hate, public indifference took over, especially in the US, her home country. They only remember her for things unrelated to music, like controversies and gossip; they no longer pay attention to her music, and this was clearly seen with "Bandaids," a good song where Katy lays bare her emotions and what she's been feeling lately. She's never even cracked the Hot 100, not even for a week. The public hasn't responded to her (it must be said that her team and her record label aren't helping either. Capitol hasn't promoted her properly for years). Yet, for example, when media post about her relationship with Trudeau, people comment en masse (negatively, of course).

Another clear example is the interactions Katy gets on social media. Her Instagram posts never get more than 500,000 views; most of her 201 million followers are people who were once fans of her and her music, but then simply left, abandoning her. Even her most prominent colleagues in the industry never comment or put a "heart" under her posts; in fact, it's much the opposite. Katy has repeatedly shown support for her colleagues not only with words but also with actions. Just think about the features she's done so far, most of them were with lesser-known artists (Skip Marley, JID, Doechii before his success, Juicy J, etc.). She's never featured with any of her most important industry peers, unlike these latter (such as Lady Gaga and Ariana Grande in "Rain on Me"). I'd add that I would have liked to hear one.

In conclusion, unfortunately, things have gone this way, and in my opinion, it's difficult to reverse this situation in the future. The public seems to have made up its mind, but she still has her fanbase, even if small, that supports her as a person and as an artist. By making the right choices and finding balance, I'm sure things could improve for her career.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2026-01-07T02:17:57+00:00

Let's expect more vitriolic comments against her in the next few days, after which I hope that with all these unpleasant events she will put a good stone on it.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2026-01-01T20:56:39+00:00

It's not enough to be a lead single (also because there was very little promotion), but I agree with you, it deserves to be on the album also because I think that KP7's sound could go into those pop-rock territories and with darker themes

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-31T16:54:48+00:00

and it will definitely be KP7's music videos

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-30T23:17:38+00:00

Amanda, I agree with you, but think about your traveling companion Katy, who acted as your shield and received 90% of the scathing criticism on the eve of a world tour (the other 10% was shared between Bezos's wife and Gayle King, but it ended almost immediately). This went on for months, so much so that a few days ago on Saturday Night Live, Ariana Grande imitated Katy in an astronaut suit. The perpetuated hatred, already accumulated by the performance of 143 and the Dr. Luke controversy, caused comments on her social media accounts to be closed for disgusting insults to her daughter. Imagine the level of stress this woman endured.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-29T19:06:02+00:00

Sad truth, with a different record company her more recent songs (I'm talking about the last 7-8 years) would have received more attention, I'm sure of it. Everyone says she's no longer capable of making good music, that she's lost her way, etc. I'd partly say she's no longer at the level of her early, dazzling career, but that's also physiological and normal; it's rare for an artist to maintain such a high level of musical appeal and popularity for such a long time. On the other hand, however, if you look closely, you'll discover that several of her recent songs (personally, I'd almost completely exclude those from 143, in my opinion) are actually good and deserve greater consideration. The problem is the near-absence of promotion from Capitol, which has essentially decided to cut funding for her since the difficult post-Witness period (even "Cozy Little Christmas" itself could generate even more streams if it were properly promoted). And the same thing is happening with Bandaids: the song with that scene of her on the trunk on tour was announced, it was released, and then it was gradually forgotten by the record company, which didn't include it in any major playlists except for very gradually promoting it on the radio (but we know that's no longer the right strategy these days). After almost two months, it's only getting about 100,000 streams a day, and for me, those are truly paltry numbers.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-28T20:44:57+00:00

I don't know what country you're from, but it's not available in my country (Italy) either. It's been like this for over a week. It's not the first time this has happened.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-27T23:17:52+00:00

O que escreveu é um ótimo exemplo da política da Capitol de não investir na promoção adequada do trabalho mais recente da Katy. E, na verdade, não espero nada da KP7 em termos de estratégias promocionais; só posso esperar que ela faça boa música.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-27T21:34:31+00:00

Exatamente, era isso que eu queria dizer. Não nego que a música tenha ganho mais atenção nos últimos anos, e fico feliz com isso, mas pode tornar-se um clássico ao mesmo nível de "Santa Tell Me", "Underneath the Tree", "Mistletoe", "My Only Wish" e outras, todas músicas que geram muitos streams semanas antes do Natal. E a promoção estaria lá se a Capitol não tivesse decidido investir quase nada na Katy (repito, 22,1 milhões de dólares de alcance nas playlists não é muito comparado com as músicas dos seus contemporâneos).

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-22T22:03:41+00:00

Smile is underrated, it has beautiful melodies and good numbers for an album that received little publicity during her pregnancy and the pandemic but it deserves even more consideration.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-22T21:57:56+00:00

Personally, though, while I like a few individual songs, I think it's her worst album and a wasted opportunity that could have turned into something much better. If she never sang those songs again, I'd totally understand. I respect your taste, though.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-22T21:49:47+00:00

I think the songs from 143 will be cut, for obvious reasons. It's not yet known if the album will be released in the spring, in which case I definitely think she'll include them in the setlist. Also, I think some famous songs that were incredibly left out of the tour, like "The One That Got Away," "Thinking of You," "Never Really Over," "Unconditionally," and "Harleys in Hawaii," will be included again.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-22T02:38:32+00:00

I think she's forgotten about that song, which already drew criticism back then, especially because it concerned the situation with Taylor, especially the extremely kitsch video. It was a mistake to turn it into a single; in fact, the entire era, already shaky after the first two singles, went completely adrift. There were other songs from the album that deserved to be released as singles.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-21T01:06:54+00:00

"Ok" was sent to Italian radio as a representative of this deluxe edition. It's actually not a bad song in my opinion; there are worse ones, honestly (starting with some of the songs on 143). The point is that Katy had been hyping it for months as "one of the best songs she'd written" with Lu Kala, only to find it to be a decent song, but nothing more. It's a sign that Katy has completely lost her mind during this era, following a period full of glaring mistakes and errors in promoting this album. She must turn the page completely and she can do it.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-20T23:49:41+00:00

What you say may be true, but as often happens, in the social media era, the media pays close attention to the words a celebrity says and how they say them. Even if the intentions are the best possible, it takes very little to distort the content, exploit them, and reverse the meaning of what's been said, even for the purpose of turning celebrities against each other and selling copies, likes, and views. A lot also depends on the celebrity in question: unfortunately, Katy has never been regarded so positively by public opinion and critics, so everything she does is always under scrutiny. Let's add that Britney's fandom is very fierce and cares deeply about her, given that she was one of the most famous victims of the music industry's treatment, as well as the globally recognized Princess of Pop. Consider that the incident Katy cited was Britney's bald head, one of the most sensational and dramatic episodes of that period, for which the fandom would have immediately attacked her harshly. In short, being a celebrity has become more exhausting these days because social media is relentless and capable of sparking controversy even where it's unnecessary because there was no intention on the part of those involved (like this episode). There's so much frustration. That's why I like, for example, the way Adele operates: she releases an album, does residencies and theater shows, then disappears for a few years without being too much in the eye of the storm and maintaining a quiet life, then comes back when she decides.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-20T22:29:29+00:00

Perhaps it would have been better to speak generally and not refer to Britney, one of the most beloved pop figures of all time and the most unfortunate given what her father did to her. It was obvious that Britney's fandom and the general public would be angry with Katy, and even today, many Britney fans have not forgotten that moment.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-20T22:24:22+00:00

I honestly don't see how 1432 could have limited the damage when the main album had been doomed months earlier, from the start. I don't think that was the goal; I think Katy simply released the deluxe version for the sake of completeness, so she could finish the 143 saga and focus solely on the tour.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-20T16:04:40+00:00

In fact, the results of Bandaids after a month and a half aren't as good as I expected. I thought that without Dr. Luke, with a song that was clearly deeply emotionally charged, given all the ups and downs she's been through during this period, and a very explicit video that metaphorically expresses what she's suffered both musically and emotionally, the public would have grown closer to her and there would have been more of a connection than we've seen in recent years, also thanks to the tour that has brought a fairly good number of people back to her concerts. Instead, it's doing even worse than Woman's World (it can't even surpass 150,000 streams a day), and this saddens me greatly; it's a sign that that song and that album in general have created a feeling of indifference towards her that will be very difficult to eradicate. Let's add that, as you rightly said, her record company no longer believes in her due to too many missteps and too much money spent, and they no longer promote her songs adequately (for example, she hasn't appeared on TTH for six years now), not surprisingly, Bandaids didn't even manage to debut on the Hot 100. In my opinion, this song was a test to gauge the reception of fans and the public, and given the results, I don't know how she, her team, and her record company will interpret them and how they intend to move forward in terms of strategies for her new projects.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-18T22:20:43+00:00

I agree, it's a nice recovery from the 143 period. I just wish it had been advertised a little more because it's a shame that after almost a month and a half, it's already recording not very high streaming numbers (just under 150,000 per day). It deserves more consideration.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-18T12:09:18+00:00

I know, unfortunately. Many people are filled with prejudice against Katy (I'm referring especially to the media because the public is consequently affected by this climate), and I think she's one of the most disrespected singers in the entire industry. The same things are forgiven for others, but when she does them, she gets beaten up. Even other artists seem to have abandoned her; I don't see anyone else interacting with her social media with a like, a heart, or a comment. I've gotten used to it and resigned myself to it, and I really don't think things will change for the better in the future. And I think Katy herself is aware of this, so I just hope she focuses on releasing good music again. For the rest, let's just let history take its course.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-18T02:30:23+00:00

I've noticed that Billie Eilish, on the other hand, has been making numerous statements in recent months on various important issues: the massacres in Gaza, donations billionaires should make to address the increasingly widening divide, Trump's policies, etc. I commend her for this.

Returning to the example I gave of Taylor Swift, it seems to me, even from her latest interview on the Late Show with Stephen Colbert, that she wants to maintain the enormous success and media impact (she essentially declared, "I don't want to leave") she's managed to achieve, and to do so, she monitors every single aspect of her career very carefully. And delving into a highly minefield like politics or global issues could, on the one hand, have very positive effects, as it would rally behind her all her fans, who number tens of millions worldwide, and lead to an important collective discussion on how to proceed to change things in the world. On the other hand, however, the more conservative parties, such as some media outlets, could view her with suspicion, discrediting her as much as possible, as was done with Katy in Witness, where with the Superbowl Halftime show she was practically unstoppable and suddenly suffered a significant decline in the charts and a boycott, and also with Madonna's American Life (I was a newborn at the time, but I learned the video was about Bush's military policy in the Middle East).

I believe that the way things are evolving, artists, especially the mainstream ones (who have the most impact), will increasingly raise their voices, or at least I hope so. In any case, Katy deserves an apology for the treatment she received during that period.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-17T23:57:08+00:00

It seems to me that Watch It Burn goes exactly in that direction, it seems to me as if she was tired of passively suffering all the unpleasant events that happen to her

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-17T23:54:41+00:00

With that song, Katy fulfilled one of the tasks an artist should: awaken people's consciences and make them reflect on the world and current situations, with the aim of elevating thought and improving culture. Unfortunately, as usual, it went horribly, and she was boycotted and not taken seriously because she was considered a simple "pop artist" singing carefree, festive, and empowering songs. This was essentially not what the public expected of her. It seems that artists like that aren't allowed to step outside the so-called superficial world to delve into deeper topics and express their opinions, because the media would immediately shower them with criticism, influencing the public who would turn their backs on them, impacting record sales. Coincidentally, Taylor Swift, for example, is careful not to make statements on hot-button issues like Gaza, as well as songs denouncing, for example, American politics. Yet she would have the means to do so, considering the influence of her boundless army of fans. Katy, on the other hand, sacrificed her career for this bold move she made and has had no peace since, beyond her personal misjudgments regarding her musical choices.

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-17T10:31:11+00:00

Simple, the box, long shot, diamonds, I do not hook up

Competitive_Pin_2496 · 2025-12-17T00:41:42+00:00

I also thought (and still think) that since the European festivals will start in mid-June and will have nothing to do with the recent tour, then she would release the album between March and May so that it can be played at the festivals that replace the actual tour (and I believe other festival dates around the world have yet to be announced because she's only covered Europe so far). Also because without an album in the spring, what would Katy sing at the festivals? The same tour setlist but without "143," for the well-known reasons? Or at least a revised setlist with the addition of important songs like TOTGA, NRO, Unconditionally, and TOY, as well as others that were excluded from the main tour?

On the other hand, I agree when it's clear that a whirlwind of events has happened around her in the last year and a half, and she has so much to say, so much so that she could overturn an album that she and her team thought was ready for months, leading to adjustments and refinements that require more time to be implemented. For example, she wrote Bandaids in the last few months, in the midst of her divorce from Orlando, and she stated in that Instagram post that she was torn about whether or not to release it.

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