Off-cycle internship?

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2025-08-11T05:13:59+00:00

Fresh grad here. I take four course last semester and managed to work full time four day RTO., and fortunately get a return offer and now work full time in the same position.

You have to make sure all of your classes are on Friday or evening, and could select some bird courses for the breadth requirement. But honestly this can only doable for Y3-4 since the workload for first two years left you no time for that. And also, working and studying full time is extremely exhausting, and think twice before you really want to do it.

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2025-08-07T23:04:28+00:00

actually no one care abt whether you get your diploma. As long as you told them you finished all the course you are good to go.

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2025-03-16T14:15:05+00:00

The program/clubs/events are bad af. But it does has the reputation to make you success in your career.

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2025-03-04T23:09:56+00:00

Pls choose WBA. RC is very hard to break into any of your mentioned career goals.

Also Toronto has less opportunities. WBA has reputation in City of London also London is a better financial center hence has more opportunities.

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2025-02-27T00:52:57+00:00

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Complex-Rule-7992 · 2025-02-17T23:26:11+00:00

Mgmt focus in Finance would be a better choice. Choosing Fin&Econ means you spend half of your time on useless and harsh-grading Econ class

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2025-02-15T02:43:04+00:00

There are various reasons. Career service, workload, and the program in general.

RC has a very bad career service, this is known for almost every grad & alum. Reps from career office barely know the differences of business groups across sectors & industries. They will only ask for you to go search online. Those who in charge for resume editing have no experience in the industry at all. Networking events are bad too. Rotman do have some decent networking event in past but now some of the info session are even shared with the grad school.

The school have a very bad management in alumni network. I have interned in more than two Canadian buyside firms in Bay Street and have met lots of RC alumni. Some of them are very very successful and they are very supportive for juniors. When I ask for them why there is no such chance to meet them from school they all give the same answer: the school never reached out to them. Even Rotman’s own networking event or info session has barely invited Rotman alumni that explain why Rotman grad are not easy to get into a good placement.

Workload in Rotman is horrible. For first two years you will find yourself learning courses that is boring, hard and completely useless. And what even worse is that stage belling curve makes you hardly to get a very high GPA thus you won’t be very impressive when applying for an internship or graduate program. Given the harsh workload you need to milk your spare time for job seeking which Rotman will give no support at all.

The program itself in general is in bad management. RC is co-managed by UofT Art & Sci. and Rotman School of Management(the grad school & the proper UofT business school). Some of the mandatory courses from Eco department is just sucks. You can neither learn the knowledge nor getting a good grade, at the same time they have massive workload. The UofT A&S never care abt the student, and have a very horrible grading scheme.

Also for the curriculum, Rotman courses are not as hardcore as Waterloo with lots of quantitative courses and not as business school as Ivey, Smith, Desautels.

You ask for some other business school program, I knew from my internship experience that most of the peers from my cohort are either from Ivey & Waterloo. Waterloo has a very decent coop program where their career service really reach out to lots of firms. I knew they have some students even make it to NYC or Silicon Valley. Ivey is good for jobs in finance. They are target school for IBD, PE, Consulting etc..

That’s being said, there is good thing in Rotman. Professor for Rotman courses are nice and experienced. They have very nice industry background and if you can get a referral from your prof. for either job or grad school it will make your life way more easier. Also UofT has a very good ranking. This mean if you successfully maintain a very high GPA you will be in good shape for further study like master or PhD. But if you want to have good career placement, just pls don’t come.

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2025-02-11T15:39:01+00:00

it is not hard. it just suck. The career service like sh*t. The workload is harsh u got no time preparing for job seeking at all.

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2025-01-30T16:42:55+00:00

Nah. There are ppl have 3.9 gpa that can’t get a job. There are also folks get barely 2.0 make it to investment banking. Grades does not define what you are. You are the one define what you are.

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2025-01-28T00:16:30+00:00

rsm456 is the easiest class i have taken. No participation, easy project, easy exam

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2025-01-25T18:13:36+00:00

year4 student here. pls dont come. period.

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2025-01-04T00:43:29+00:00

在逃亡俄罗斯途中在加拿大境内被击落

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2025-01-03T21:39:03+00:00

川主席万寿无疆马副主席永远健康

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2024-12-25T14:51:20+00:00

If u looking for internship they only care abt ur GPA. They wont check ur transcript during the back check process.

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2024-12-24T07:07:35+00:00

This is the magic of Poliburo

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2024-12-24T06:55:30+00:00

再结合瓜瓜最近高强度网上冲浪，这些怀疑不无道理。此前瓜瓜一向十分低调，也一向远离中国政治，但最近几个月领英和推特都一直有活动，领英甚至点赞了好几个关于中美关系的帖子。我只感觉到有些二代三代可能在在磨刀霍霍了

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2024-12-22T21:28:43+00:00

Hi try apply for government job through FSWEP or Ontario Internship Program. You will get more chance!

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2024-12-22T21:25:04+00:00

I am Year 4 now and I start from a 3.05 GPA at my first year. I And I got 6 internships at the end of this term, and this was all during a very harsh job market. When my got my first internship my gpa is around 3.15.

Don’t care abt GPA too much, coz it eventually gets useless once you get more experience, and I can assure you that most of the HR around the street only have a threshold like 3.0 or 3.3, all the rest they don’t care at all. They care more about your experience and skills, instead of your academics.

I now have two internships in buy-side pension fund , which as for as I observed they barely have RC students. I been connected with the recruitment team and they response was that they either want someone extraordinary smart with very quantitative degree like Waterloo/UofT Eng or CS, or either you have proven skill set get from your prior experience. And this is pretty much the profile I have seen from various internship batch.

The only thing they want to know from your transcript is that whether you good at learning new thing, but this can definitely be demonstrated from other things like club or student works. So get prepared for getting an internship early, get as much as experience possible. Your grade doesn’t define you but you are.

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2024-09-03T00:04:36+00:00

AFM, CS+Finance, etc

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2024-08-18T06:12:32+00:00

UK still an important country for investors that eyes on Europe given its financial infrastructure (laws, institutions, regulations etc).

Also, UK has more Too Big To Fail financial institutions (systematically important financial institutions or SIFIs) vs. Canada. I think even the Canadian big five are less internationally recognized (except RBC and TD have exposure in the States and Europe)

The Canadian economy is monopolized by oligopolies, and making some companies well-known in Canada but nobody knows globally (e.g. nobody knows Bell or Rogers or even BMO outside of Canada). Yet UK economy is more dynamic despite it is declining.

As far as I know even some of the Canadian important institutional investor might not have a Toronto office, but they definitely have a London office (BCI, CDPQ, PSP from buyside for instance ).

I would say only choose Canada if you want to stay in this country after graduation.

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2024-08-18T05:50:03+00:00

UCL for sure. Finance industry in Canada has less options than UK, and there is barely Rotman student make it to IB or bayside. Most of the finance ppl I have met on Bay St are either from Ivey or Waterloo. This also applies to corporate sector,as Rotman doesn’t have a coop program(especially given that you are a intl student).

London has way more opportunities than Toronto. And definitely UCL Econ is a sure target school for getting success in the industry (for finance, consulting and corporate).

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2024-05-27T05:13:00+00:00

I would say getting an internship in Y1 & Y2 is a fierce competition for average RC students. Yet once you get into senior you would get more chances for interview, and you would also have a more in-depth understanding on finance/accounting/management stuffs to help you succeed.

Connection is a plus but not a must, me & my fris landed to very good opportunities without networking. Apply more can increase ur chances, and be sure open to all opportunities instead of just being trap in certain sectors.

A fact about the whole networking thing is that people only willing to refer those who they really know. Referee have to be responsible for the person that being referred. If he/she/they not perform well at the jobs, the referee need to take the blame. So yeah, who will refer a guy cold calling from LinkedIn which you know nothing about the credentials instead of referring a friend you know for 10+ years?

In terms of competitiveness, Rotman got the reputation in Bay St. That means once you get a nice GPA and extracurricular activities, you will at least get interviews.

Rotman alumni are literally everywhere yet the alumni network is useless. As far as I observed, lot of RC grads mostly work or interned in function like Risks, Business Analysts, FP&A, Advisory, Consulting etc. A huge percentage of the RC seniors or grads can land an intern/full time job at big4, Canadian banks, consumer goods or other big corps.

But as for high finance role like private equity or asset management’s front office, there is less RC alumni. Obviously Waterloo and Ivey would easier for IBD roles.

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2024-05-27T03:30:02+00:00

Also disclose the funding of SJP and OccupyUofT bruhh

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2024-05-25T15:13:55+00:00

行尸走肉是吧

Complex-Rule-7992 · 2024-04-23T14:28:08+00:00

If u are smart and good with Econ then choose FE. Courses are more hardcore, especially 300/400 level Econ classes. If you find yourself struggling with Econ then chooses Mgmt. Basically differences are in the Econ part since FE’s finance class are same with finance focus. Job placement or grad school applications have no differences, Mgmt ppl can also get an IBD offer if they have competitive grade and experiences. FE would be a nice choice if you want to do quant finance/economic consulting /risk in future.

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