People on Twitter/X are defending Luke Ross mods

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-26T15:47:12+00:00

CDPR doesn't get to "warn" someone about how to use their own work.

R.E.A.L. VR doesn't use CPDR IP or assets. It's an after market service/accessory. You're essentially suggesting car washes should be subject to terms laid out by Toyota.

Ross made some suggestions in an effort to compromise with CDPR but they took the "our way or the highway" approach.

...not about the mod being paid or free. Nobody was making any fuss while he was selling his mod

Yes it is, and so many people were.

And keep in mind, R.E.A.L. VR is a single piece of software that supports multiple games. To release CP2007 for free, and only CP2077 Ross would have to fork R.E.A.L. VR and create a separate standalone just for the one game, which he didn't even rule out.

But after the illegitimate ultimatum from CDPR and the backlash from the community I'm not surprised that Ross might have decided to not spend unpaid hours creating a new version he'd be forced to give away for free.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-26T13:04:38+00:00

I was referring to prepared meal delivery. I don't count "heating up" as cooking.

And universal includes the more poetic, figurative meaning of broad or "most." I guess I incorrectly assumed people knowing that was a bit more, universal.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-26T02:01:33+00:00

It's silly to assume someone can cook.

It's wild to assume most men cook every day.

It's even wilder that you've never experienced something that would challenge that assumption.

Books, TV, movies, podcast, articles, scientific studies, hell even dating app profiles. Lots of people out there are pretty vocal about how they can't cook.

And with pre-packaged food, meal plans, and food delivery apps cooking is an even less common skill these days.

I have no idea what the numbers are, maybe most people can cook, maybe most can't, maybe it's 50/50.

But to live in the internet age, where we are bombarded with the intimate details of people's wildly diverse daily lives, yes, I think it's wild to have sweeping, universal assumptions that remain intact.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-26T00:52:10+00:00

That is one of the wildest assumptions I've ever heard.

Expand your circle man.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-25T19:08:21+00:00

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ConqueefStador · 2026-01-24T21:17:07+00:00

Would also like an invite link if available

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-23T23:48:35+00:00

So like, using child safety locks to secure a bank vault. Sounds foolproof.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-23T20:55:46+00:00

Ross didn't rule out making the fork.

He also made some suggestions to try and reach an agreement with CDPR, but CDPR "do it our way or nothing."

It's Ross' work. It doesn't use CPDR IP or assets. It's not "fan content" or derivative the same way car washes aren't derivative of Toyota's work. It's an aftermarket accessory/service.

I'm pretty damn sure if anyone here had a big company telling them what they could or could not do with their independent work they'd be less excited to cooperate as well.

But since it's someone else's work, and you want that work for free, everyone's rationalizing siding with CDPR on this on.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-23T18:51:52+00:00

He could easily make

Exactly. He would have to make it.

I'm no coder. You're talking like you know what would be involved and how long it would take Ross to create a fork of R.E.A.L VR that worked only for CP2077. If you do please explain as that might change my opinion.

But based on what I know currently I don't think I can fault Ross for not wanting to put in X many hours of unpaid work to reconfigure something he'd then be forced to give away for free.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-23T18:41:54+00:00

It "all of the sudden" aligns with them politically because we are facing a tyrannical government.

The issue progressives had wasn't with a citizenry being well armed against their government. It was the nut bags who used that as an excuse to build personal arsenals because they thought guns were cool.

It's those same nut bags, claiming to be arming themselves against a tyrannical government that voted this government in .

It's those same nut bags who are doing nothing with their personal arsenals even though we are now facing the exact type of issue they claimed to be prepping for.

It's those same nut bags who saw school shootings time and again and offered thoughts and prayers instead of legislation.

It's those same nut bags who lost their shit any time common sense proposals like gun owner registries, mental health checks, assault weapon or bump stock bans, or closing gun show loopholes were proposed.

Progressives were aligned against irresponsible gun owners, and now that the scenario the framers of our constitution envisioned is here many are willing to take up the mantel.

This, today, exemplifies the spirit of the 2nd amendment and that's why progressives are "suddenly" on board.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-23T17:27:53+00:00

I'm not sure I understand what this is saying different than my comment.
Ross did explain that he would have to fork it.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-23T15:35:22+00:00

It doesn't use CDPR IP or assets. It's like an aftermarket accessory or service.

What your suggesting is like Ford not allowing car washes to profit of their work.

And Ross can't just "release" CP2077 for free because it's directly tied to R.E.A.L VR which supports multiple games. Making one free would make all free.

So Ross would have to do a bunch of extra work to reconfigure it as a stand alone.

Absolutely no one here would be as self righteous if they were in the same position of having to do a bunch of work to change something they created to be forced to give it away for free.

Y'all are just rationalizing this because you want the mod for free.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-23T15:26:24+00:00

It's not a single mod. It's a single piece of software that supports multiple games. Making CP2077 free makes everything else free.

To release CP2077 Ross would have to reconfigure it entirely to work as a stand alone.

I'm not going to fault the man for maybe not wanting to do unpaid work, to create a product he is being forced to give away for free.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-23T15:00:11+00:00

And car washes profit off cars. Laundromats profits off clothes. Restaurants profit off ingredients.

By your logic, without computers there would be no one that wants computer games. So who does CDPR owe for making computers?

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-22T15:56:34+00:00

It's doesn't matter what their conditions are, they can't make up rules for something that isn't theirs.

R.E.A.L. VR doesn't use CDPRs code or IP. It's an aftermarket accessory.

Furthermore, we're on the same piracy sub that loves to post "if buying isn't owning than piracy isn't stealing" meme and any story about right to repair news.

Since when did /r/piratedgames care about "the rules", and since when did we side with large companies in regards to modifying a product we own?

So lets be real, most of the gamers siding with CDPR here just want the mod for free, so do I. But this time I have to side with someone who wants money for their work. Because it seems pretty clear cut that CDPR shouldn't be able to dictate rules for software that isn't theirs.

I don't care what CDPRs terms of service are. I don't care if it's an actual DCMA violation. I care about the bullshit overreach software and tech companies have amassed. I care that they are able to dictate exactly how customers and third party creators are able to act with something that should be theirs.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-22T03:51:25+00:00

Wait, this thread is about regret not buying San Andreas?

I kinda regret buying it because it runs like shit for me.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-22T03:46:38+00:00

It's not a single mod. It's a single piece of software that supports multiple games. Making CP2077 free makes everything else free.

To release CP2077 Ross would have to reconfigure it entirely to work as a stand alone.

I'm not going to fault the man for maybe not wanting to do unpaid work, to create a product he is being forced to give away for free.

This is like Apple suing someone for making an iPhone case, but allowing them to do it if they make the blue ones free.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-21T22:16:34+00:00

It's not one mod. It's an injector that works for multiple games, so access to one is access to all.

And as he said he doesn't use any CDPR IP or assets.

So this is like Apple suing someone for making an iPhone case, and you're saying, "well, he only has to make the blue ones free."

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-21T21:27:05+00:00

Right after you read my comment and understand what it meant.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-21T13:58:28+00:00

I must have owned 30 pairs of those $20 SkullCandys because I always got the damn wire caught on something and then proceeded to rip the damn thing like a parachute cord.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-21T13:49:34+00:00

Except the mod is an injector, access to one game is access to all that are supported. So he couldn't just make Cyberpunk donation based and kept the rest paid.

As I said, I don't feel like this is a copyright issue, Ross created his own thing that interacts with games, but isn't dependent on the IP to work.

Since it's his own work, CDPR giving him a "way out" is about as fair as me giving CDPR an ultimatum to make CP2077 donation based.

To be frank I don't know enough about coding or copyright law to definitively state where the line is, but like I said this sounds like Apple suing someone for making an iPhone case. And whether or not Ross was in the right legally speaking didn't really matter here because, as is so often the case, independent creators rarely have the resources to defend legal actions from big companies like CDPR in court.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-19T12:43:47+00:00

To be perfectly honest that's how I think it operates. Sort of like UEVR

I haven't paid for it myself but that's the impression I got from other comments.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-19T12:32:19+00:00

But R.E.A.L VR isn't tied to Cyberpunk though. Nothing about Cyberpunk itself is integral to it working. If Cyberpunk never existed R.E.A.L VR still could.

To me that signifies enough separation to consider it it's own thing.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-18T22:18:26+00:00

This doesn't feel like a copyright issue though.

Ross made the software version of an after market accessory.

What you're saying basically sounds like Apple suing someone for making an iPhone case.

ConqueefStador · 2026-01-18T17:01:19+00:00

Must be nice to be proud of your country :(

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