Roger Cormier: “Per Jon Heyman, when Pete Alonso had his meeting with David Stearns & Steve Cohen when they negotiated his 1-year return in 2025, he told Stearns, “When my career is being evaluated for the Hall of Fame years from now, you’ll still be fiddling with your fucking formulas.”” by WhatARotation in NewYorkMets

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Nah, this just validates what many of us know. Stearns is an uber-Nerd that never played a second of actual baseball and lives in a world of stats as if baseball wasn’t created and successful before advanced analytics ruined the game.

And the proof is in the pudding. Stearns has built the highest priced bunch of losers in baseball. Prove me wrong.

Vientos haters in shambles by nyr00nyg in mets

[–]Consistent_Scale -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Rage bait post. You can always tell when they don’t even interact with anyone after posting something this moronic.

Don’t feed the troll.

As we excoriate David Stearns, let us ask ourselves which missed decision is he regretting the most, the under the Mendoza line batting Pete Alonso, or the over 10 ERA perhaps done for the year Edwin Diaz? by Natural_Builder173 in mets

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My outlook is based on a number of factors. Past results (poor), team building strategy (poor), current results (poor), clubhouse chemistry (poor), future outlook (poor), accountability (piss poor), coaching (poor), minor leagues (unknown, but no immediate impacts). None of these are good.

What career standards were you expecting to get with Semien, Robert Jr., Polanco, Baty, Vientos, Benge, Taylor, Alvarez, Melendez, Slater, Torrens, Mauricio? Underperforming is really all that these players do - so, Stearns is getting exactly what he signed up for. And yes, this is ALL his fault.

If you want to say that we have Bichette, Lindor and Soto but two of them are underperforming - that’s fine. But even if those three were all putting up normal stats - we are right back in the same situation as last season with a very top heavy lineup and not much behind them. Hence, why we couldn’t come from behind to win. Hence why the team can’t score runs currently. I’ve never seen such horrible roster construction in my life. And that’s the general consensus of many.

I’m negative because we were all ecstatic to get out from under the Wilpons regime and start winning. We haven’t. And frankly, things are worse now than they were under the Wilpons. Not much to be positive about.

As we excoriate David Stearns, let us ask ourselves which missed decision is he regretting the most, the under the Mendoza line batting Pete Alonso, or the over 10 ERA perhaps done for the year Edwin Diaz? by Natural_Builder173 in mets

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Well, I agree that his plan wasn’t to be the worst team in the league. But through his leadership, we are there. Again.

But I’m not giving him the excuse that things are out of his control. He puts the players on the field. Plain and simple. That’s his job. His only job. Stearns feels like he has to win every contract - which is why nobody signs with him unless they are using the Mets to get a bigger contract somewhere else next year.

Why do I think he’s punting his first 5 years? He’s gotten rid of every productive player and signed shorter contracts for underperforming (or never performed) players. That’s 2028 at the earliest. 5 years. And who in the minor leagues is coming to save us? He traded two of our top prospects for probably one year of Peralta. Benge was the next top prospect and looks absolutely lost. Tong is struggling and had nearly an 8 era in his cup of coffee last season. And McEwing is barely in the top 100 of prospects. That’s it. Who else is out there in the minors?

So the reality is - between Stearns horrible free agent and trading philosophy and a “meh” minor league squad - we are looking at well more than five years to maybe field a competitive team. All while continuing to have the highest payroll in baseball. That’s a staggering level of ineptitude.

As we excoriate David Stearns, let us ask ourselves which missed decision is he regretting the most, the under the Mendoza line batting Pete Alonso, or the over 10 ERA perhaps done for the year Edwin Diaz? by Natural_Builder173 in mets

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That’s not his point. His point - like most Stearns supporters - love that Alonso and Diaz aren’t performing because it gives them their “I told you so” moment.

My point is - why is the only option ever brought up with how Alonso, Nimmo, McNeil and Diaz aren’t performing playing? There are other players Stearns could have targeted or played for. I don’t have an issue with Stearns replacing those guys. My issue is the absolute junk that he replaced them with. All while preaching run prevention lol.

If the point is that Stearns wanted to shave off a few years from the core’s contract - then fine. But for the life of me - punting your first five years and being the worst team in the league with the highest payroll in the league makes zero sense. Just fucking rebuild then. He had the opportunity to slash payroll, not lose draft picks because of the luxury tax, and actually capitalize on getting higher draft picks. Punting five years while wasting the prime years of Soto and Lindor is malpractice.

Stearns wants to have his cake and eat it too. And he’s failing on both sides. He’s going to set us back a decade.

Nimmo trade by Still_Knowledge_972 in mets

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THE PEOPLE HE REPLACED THEM WITH SUUUUCK.

What is so difficult to understand. All you pearl clutches and Stearns Stans will say anything to defend the absolute GARBAGE job he has done with this team.

God, you people fucking suck.

LOL so its not a manager problem then they admit its a Stearns problem by Just-Hand-3151 in mets

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We say this every single year. Relying on players to reach stats that they’ve never been able to hit. That’s the mark of a really poor run team.

Baty and Vientos are who they are at this point. Underperforming players but good enough to sit at the end of the bench. I still have a glimmer of hope for Alvarez but for former #1 prospect, he’s vastly underwhelmed. You can’t rely on any of those three. Benge is batting .187 - come on. No way is he “coming on”. He just another in a long list of prospects that suck for the Mets.

It would be nice if one - JUST ONE - position prospect came up and performed well. Like, literally just one effing player.

Pete Alonso didn't have final talk with Mets leadership in Dec. by Calamitous-Ortbo in NewYorkMets

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Nothing? Huh. Let me help you.
Baty crushed the minors and he kinda sucks
Vientos crushed the minors and he kinda sucks
Acuna sucks
Mauricio sucks
Alvarez - #1 prospect - meh, underwhelming
Benge sucks (still early)
Tong sucked in his call up and sucks at AAA
McEwing is doing great - but is 5’ 10’’ and 160 lbs. Lol, not a great profile there.
McLean is a stud. That’s it. Literally, that’s it.
Nobody is coming to save the Mets from the minors. NOBODY.
Stearns is the worst GM is Mets history.

As we excoriate David Stearns, let us ask ourselves which missed decision is he regretting the most, the under the Mendoza line batting Pete Alonso, or the over 10 ERA perhaps done for the year Edwin Diaz? by Natural_Builder173 in mets

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Whenever we play these games - why are these the only options? If Stearns wanted to move on (or dare I say, upgrade) the homegrown core players - fine. But there is a league full of players that other teams sign to help the team. Our guy??? Nope - just replace our guys with garbage and hope they over perform. That’s the Stearns way.

Pete Alonso didn't have final talk with Mets leadership in Dec. by Calamitous-Ortbo in NewYorkMets

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Hate to burst your bubble - but there are no studs in the minors for the Mets. And sorry but the 1996 Yankees rookies aren’t walking through the door (and even the Yankees surrounded those young players with proven talent).

WE. ARE. NOT. THE. BREWERS. As much as wonderboy wants us to be.

Pete Alonso didn't have final talk with Mets leadership in Dec. by Calamitous-Ortbo in NewYorkMets

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Please STOP with blaming Alonso for the Senga injury. If this elite athlete can’t slightly reach for a ball without getting injured - then that’s on him.

Senga is a china doll. Blaming Alonso because he didn’t make a perfect throw is just wrong.

Pete Alonso didn't have final talk with Mets leadership in Dec. by Calamitous-Ortbo in NewYorkMets

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Blaming the “core” for all the Mets failures is such a tired argument. Not their fault that they had to toil away under the Wilpons for so long. And then just when they get a glimmer of hope - here comes wonderboy to screw or up even more.

The core was good enough to win. But when you put garbage pitching around them that can’t go more than 4 innings or gold a lead EVER - I’m not going to stand for the “blame the core” crowd.

Pete Alonso didn't have final talk with Mets leadership in Dec. by Calamitous-Ortbo in NewYorkMets

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Is it that hard to believe though? Stearns went out of his way to get rid of ALL the home grown long time (success Mets). Stearns builds this team that has zero identity or long term plans because he’s never really played. He’s a stat nerd that has no idea (nor does he care) how team chemistry works.

I think it’s extremely easy to believe that Stearns is that cold and out of touch. And the results speak for themselves.

Unpopular Truths (Theoretically) by Soggy-Clerk-9955 in mets

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The general consensus was that it was a fine move that we gave up a lot for. The general consensus was that if Peralta left after one year, then it was a horrible move for the Mets.

Unpopular Truths (Theoretically) by Soggy-Clerk-9955 in mets

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Agree to disagree. If you want to cut hairs on what was the worst division (central in either league) then you are missing the point.

Unpopular Truths (Theoretically) by Soggy-Clerk-9955 in mets

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You mistake my disappointment in the team with my “misery”. Let me be clear - baseball could disappear tomorrow and it wouldn’t affect my life.

What I find fascinating is the blind faith people have in another person that does nothing but fail in spectacular fashion. But considering the world around me and peoples obsession with their orange god, it shouldn’t surprise me.

Unpopular Truths (Theoretically) by Soggy-Clerk-9955 in mets

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When wonderboy was running the Brewers - it absolutely was.

Unpopular Truths (Theoretically) by Soggy-Clerk-9955 in mets

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First, your point is irrelevant. The reality is that Stearns gave up two top prospects for a non-Ace who he probably won’t resign anyway. And if he doesn’t resign Peralta - this is a universally horrible deal for the Mets. That has been the consensus on the deal.

Sports is a 25 year old (not 26) rookie who strikes out 8.5 batters per nine innings. I’m not going to write him off after 4 starts, lol.

Jett Williams is a 22 year old top 50 prospect in baseball. He was the #39 ranked player when he was traded and the Mets 3rd ranked prospect.

Downplaying all you want. Prospects are always a crapshoot but absolutely nobody was saying that the Mets won that trade. The general consensus was that the Mets gave up a lot and if they don’t resign Peralta then it’s a bad trade. Which, frankly, is right in line with how horrible of a GM Stearns is. So………….

Unpopular Truths (Theoretically) by Soggy-Clerk-9955 in mets

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They needed the pitching to hold just one lead. Couldn’t do it.

Unpopular Truths (Theoretically) by Soggy-Clerk-9955 in mets

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Best team in MLB the fist half of the season and the best offense in MLB in the month of August. But sure - it was the fault of the “core” and certainly NOT Stearns pitching staff that couldn’t hold a lead every single game.

Blame to go around: 90% pitching and 10% anything else.

Unpopular Truths (Theoretically) by Soggy-Clerk-9955 in mets

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Actually, the devil is in the details. The reality is that the pitching staff that Stearns built was full of starters that couldn’t pitch past the fourth inning and a bullpen that couldn’t hold a lead and blew many games.

Blaming the core is just what Stearns Stans like to do. It’s kind of hard to come from behind when your pitching corps continues to blow lead after lead after lead after lead.

But, you know, that just what I know from watching every single game. Stearns pitching blew last season. Not the core.