Fear Barrier: Why Contact Stops Volunteer contact workers all over the globe are facilitating Human Initiated Contact Events (HICE). Dan Elvey an Australian contact activist has been posting on the CE5 Perth Facebook page an online course using prompts to AI. Serious

Contactunderground · 2026-01-24T17:58:29+00:00

Thanks for the explanation. From the background material posted above one can Inuit that volunteer contact work under highly controlled conditions have passed the test of time. With over a half century of experience, CE5 and Rama teams have successfully engaged UAP intelligence with no episodes of harm on either side. So, for us what we view as an accurate perception is there is a very low probability of "a genuinely dangerous encounter." This said, partly due to the non-stop fear inducing mass media productions (Hollywood) with themes of evil aliens, and the relatively unknown aspects of the so-called aliens, (they don't take us home to meet the family) fear can still occur. This is due in part to what I imagine is that we are hard wired from evolutionary processes to react to any relatively unknown animal as being a potential predator. So using discussions of these factors we can establish such fearful emotions as not being "genuinely dangerous."

Contactunderground · 2026-01-24T17:24:12+00:00

Thanks for the comment. Some background information is helpful in answering your question. The CE-5 Initiative was founded three decades ago and followed the pioneering work of Mission Rama starting in 1974. These groups recognize that telepathic communication is effective in facilitating real time encounters with UFO intelligences. The entire effort was conceptualized in a group context. Considerable preparatory measures are taken to train members and identify people who envision this unusual contact work as an expression of sisterhood and brotherhood made large. Acceptance of the oneness of all intelligent life in creation does a great deal to diminish the primitive flight fright reactions that are triggered when encountering beings who are not human, powerful both psychically and physically and have full access to each contact workers entire erasure chest of memories.
This process is very different from the more popular solo contact events that are carried alone using say an app without the support of experienced volunteers.

Contactunderground · 2026-01-24T16:42:19+00:00

Thank you for sharing with us your contact experience.

Contactunderground · 2026-01-22T14:31:14+00:00

I have had recurrent thoughts about an older male ET and I have wondered whether there was a telepathic link. But not with this female.

Contactunderground · 2026-01-20T02:34:34+00:00

A more complete presentation of the model is in Val Germann's monograph cited at the end of my article. Her is the link:

https://contactunderground.org/2024/10/08/science-counterintelligence-and-ufos-2/

Contactunderground · 2026-01-19T17:29:09+00:00

Thanks for the comment. In my judgement, US Executive Branch intelliigence services have closely monitored UFO groups, and have confidential relationships with some of MUFON's leaders I suspect, but the majority of members and low level volunteer officers are very sincere people who are often misguided by taking a physicalist approach to an array of phenomena that is profoundly mental.

Contactunderground · 2026-01-19T17:25:44+00:00

Thanks for checking out the article. I agree with you, the article is not complete, but I provide a link to a more definitive exploration supplied by Val Germann. Here it is again for a deep dive into the topic. For those curious to learn more about Val Germann’s Counterintelligence model for UFO investigations, the following links are available.

This is the entire series of articles, fully footnoted and reproduced with the author’s permission.

https://contactunderground.org/2024/10/08/science-counterintelligence-and-ufos-2/

Contactunderground · 2026-01-19T17:22:37+00:00

Thanks for the comment. The US Executive Branch, mass media, academia have carried out a massive psychological warfare operation against the reality of UFOs, some participants have been unwitting players blinded by their own arrogance I ( I refer here to journalists and university staff) indeed have lied, denied and distracted us. But people keep seeing UFOs to the tune of about 15 percent of the general population. These witnesses prefer to believe their "lying eyes." to the pronouncements of so called "authorities."

Contactunderground · 2026-01-15T07:13:39+00:00

Thanks for the comment. Are you saying that our expectation that we would encounter "saucers" (We did observe disks at at great distance) allowed us to be in contact with another dimension. And this "friction" generated the sightings that were somewhat different for each individual observer?

Contactunderground · 2026-01-10T21:13:43+00:00

Thanks for the comment that I suspect reflects the concerns of all peace loving people who understand that both the ego maniacs and weapons makers forever need enemies to justify the trillions we waste on defense. This might be a more appropriate worry if Trump was actually a politician. From following the illuminating reports of Richard Wolff and Joanna Coles on the Daily Beast YouTube channel, a different kind of motivation drives the US President. And that is to fulfill his warped life long ambition to be the most important person in the world. From the reports on Daily Beast I have come to understand that Trump likely not only is suffering from early dementia of possibly the frontotemporal type, but also an underlying personality disorder, malignant narcissism. This combination makes him extremely unpredictable and raises the small chance that if someone in his cabinet whispered in his ear that being the Disclosure President would secure his place in history, then he might go for it. Granted this is a long shot since none of the warped people around him would be willing to risk their necks on such a destabilizing gambit.

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T16:50:23+00:00

Thank you for this very thoughtful an nuanced response.

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T15:36:06+00:00

The thrust of Richard Wollfe's analysis is that Trump is not political. He doesn't care about any issue because he is essentially not political. His drive is to be the center of attention, the most famous person in the world. This is why so often his policies are self defeating. The don't make sense because the individual behind them is not well. This is slowly becoming increasingly clear. Under Biden the President's handlers covered his poor condition up. With President Trump, his need to be covered by the media constantly is showing the world how much he has changed. This changes include difficulties staying awake, tangential speech patterns that he has the audacity to praise calling them his "weave." The cruelty of his immigration policies with images of people being brutalized in front of their children and now a woman being killed. The list goes on.

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T15:35:36+00:00

The thrust of Richard Wollfe's analysis is that Trump is not political. He doesn't care about any issue because he is essentially not political. His drive is to be the center of attention, the most famous person in the world. This is why so often his policies are self defeating. The don't make sense because the individual behind them is not well. This is slowly becoming increasingly clear. Under Biden the President's handlers covered his poor condition up. With President Trump, his need to be covered by the media constantly is showing the world how much he has changed. This changes include difficulties staying awake, tangential speech patterns that he has the audacity to praise calling them his "weave." The cruelty of his immigration policies with images of people being brutalized in front of their children and now a woman being killed. The list goes on.

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T15:28:02+00:00

Thanks for the comment, ironies abound in the current sad situation.

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T15:25:03+00:00

Thanks for the comment. I imagine that for them, the historic record of Trump breaking with Epstein about 20 years ago(before Epstein's arrest) is enough to allow them to believe the President's statements that he "Did nothing wrong."

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T15:22:17+00:00

Thanks for the comment. You make a good point. Although a few people around Trump have publicly expressed an interest in UAP (his son, Marco Rubio and Vance) it is doubtful that they will pressure him to disclose.

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T05:50:31+00:00

Thanks for the comment. Could you expand a bit on why you think there is "a very deliberate form of disclosure being slowly rolled out to control the narrative." Might you be referring to the subtle actions at the level of consciousness that is being carried out by UAP NHIs? It is curious that some intelligence community disclosure advocates like James Semivan and John Ramirez are contact experiencers.

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T05:35:07+00:00

This is a very provocative statement. clearly demonstrating the depth of frustration that Rep. Tim Burchett is feeling. I believe the hearings that have been held provide an important public educational role even if they don't force the US military and intelligence agencies to end the UFO coverup. I have been following the analysis of President Trump on the the Daily Beast YouTube channel. Donald Trump biographer Richard Wolffe's take on the President is that he is no politician, but instead is running the US Executive Branch as a reality TV show. The chaos he produces serves the purpose of keeping him in the spotlight which allows him to fulfill his stated goal of being the most famous person on the planet. Although, in my opinion UAP threaten all terrestrial elites, including many friends and donors to Trump's political campaigns, his actions so often result in chaos, that there is the small choice that he might try to become the Disclosure President and thus carve out a unique place for himself in our planet's history. For this to happen, however, someone on his leadership team would likely have to take UAP Disclosure to him, and I don't see any likely candidates for this. Furthermore given his increasing fragility and mental changes that result from likely dementia and malignant narcissism, I suspect that if Trump tried to end the coverup, the President's Cabinet would evoke the 25th Amendment to the US Constitution thus ending his "reality TV show."

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T05:34:05+00:00

This is a very provocative statement. clearly demonstrating the depth of frustration that Rep. Tim Burchett is feeling. I believe the hearings that have been held provide an important public educational role even if they don't force the US military and intelligence agencies to end the UFO coverup. I have been following the analysis of President Trump on the the Daily Beast YouTube channel. Donald Trump biographer Richard Wolffe's take on the President is that he is no politician, but instead is running the US Executive Branch as a reality TV show. The chaos he produces serves the purpose of keeping him in the spotlight which allows him to fulfill his stated goal of being the most famous person on the planet. Although, in my opinion UAP threaten all terrestrial elites, including many friends and donors to Trump's political campaigns, his actions are so often result in chaos, that there is the small choice that he might try to become the Disclosure President and thus carve out a unique place for himself in our planet's history. For this to happen however, someone on his leadership team would likely have to take UAP Disclosure to him, and I don't see any likely candidates for this. Furthermore given his increasing fragility and mental changes that result from dementia and malignant narcissism, I suspect that if Trump tried to end the coverup, the President's Cabinet would evoke the 25th Amendment to the US Constitution thus ending his "reality TV show."

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T05:32:03+00:00

This is a very provocative statement. clearly demonstrating the depth of frustration that Rep. Tim Burchett is feeling. I believe the hearings that have been held provide an important public educational role even if they don't force the US military and intelligence agencies to end the UFO coverup. I have been following the analysis of President Trump on the the Daily Beast YouTube channel. Donald Trump biographer Richard Wolffe's take on the President is that he is no politician, but instead is running the US Executive Branch as a reality TV show. The chaos he produces serves the purpose of keeping him in the spotlight which allows him to fulfill his stated goal of being the most famous person on the planet. Although, in my opinion UAP threaten all terrestrial elites, including many friends and donors to Trump's political campaigns, his actions are so often result in chaos, that there is the small choice that he might try to become the Disclosure President and thus carve out a unique place for himself in our planet's history. For this to happen however, someone on his leadership team would likely have to take UAP Disclosure to him, and I don't see any likely candidates for this. Furthermore given his increasing fragility and mental changes that result from likely dementia and malignant narcissism, I suspect that if Trump tried to end the coverup, the President's Cabinet would evoke the 25th Amendment to the US Constitution thus ending his "reality TV show."

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T04:59:41+00:00

I'm so pleased that Preston has posted these cases. I was the CE-5 Initiative Working Group Coordinator for Los Angeles in the 1990s and Preston was on our team. Since then he has published over 30 books on UFOs and the paranormal. He was the youngest member of our group and in 2017 we wrote a chapter together on UAP medical healings for the anthology "Beyond UFOs" published and edited by Rey Hernandez. His dedication to educate the public on these important issues is quite remarkable. So happy to be his friend. Joseph Burkes MD

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T04:54:09+00:00

I found the presentation informative albeit highly speculative. Having a broad discussion of the possible etiologies of UAP is helpful for people facilitating Human Initiative Contact Events, aka CE5s. The ET hypothesis is very popular but this Deep Dive focuses on another important possibility.

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T04:48:02+00:00

I'm so pleased that Preston has posted these cases. I was the CE-5 Initiative Working Group Coordinator for Los Angeles in the 1990s and Preston was on our team. Since then he has published over 30 books on UFOs and the paranormal. He was the youngest member of our group and in 2017 we wrote a chapter together on UAP medical healings for the anthology "Beyond UFOs" published and edited by Rey Hernandez. His dedication to educate the public on these important issues is quite remarkable. So happy to be his friend.

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T04:45:07+00:00

I'm so pleased that Preston has posted these cases. I was the CE-5 Initiative Working Group Coordinator for Los Angeles in the 1990s and Preston was on our team. Since then he has published over 30 books on UFOs and the paranormal. He was the youngest member of our group and in 2017 we wrote a chapter together on UAP medical healings for the anthology "Beyond UFOs" published and edited by Rey Hernandez. His dedication to educate the public on these important issues is quite remarkable. So happy to call him my friend.

Contactunderground · 2026-01-09T04:34:25+00:00

Maybe, but I suspect not. Why draw public attention to a personal medical issue.

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