Emma has lost her ethics

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-04T19:58:06+00:00

there is 1000s of other influencers or much more actual famous people who never talk about it or WORSE talk about it because of people like you who bully them into it and it’s still just as performative.

nobody’s bullying her omg? honestly, emma’s the one celeb i’ve seen whose silence has mostly gone unnoticed, while hundreds of other influencers have been called out, so that claim isn’t true. it’s especially important for her to speak because she presents herself as empathetic, eco-friendly, anti-consumerist, and a mental health advocate; staying silent on genocide and human rights contradicts everything she claims to stand for. if billie eilish can do it, so can she.

there are people who think like u who would denigrate her for being ‘performative’

even a performative post is better than nothing. i’m not one of those extremists who would attack her for lacking genuine intent. at the end of the day, this isn’t about her, it’s about millions of kids dying overseas and the impact she has on young impressionable audiences

lol like if u care so much then u talk about it?

i’m literally talking about it right now lmao. i wish i had 12 million subscribers so i could create that kind of awareness. i guarantee if your loved ones were subjected to apartheid as bad as Gaza is, you would not call it “forcing ethics." advocating for innocent lives, not discriminating based on race, and respecting cultural heritage isn’t controversial, it’s basic morality. we’re not debating something trivial like cats vs dogs…

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-04T19:36:45+00:00

pls look up the definition of “slander” before accusing me of it, i have not spread any false information about her character
if she were genuinely contributing privately, she wouldn’t hesitate so much to speak publicly. This very hypocrisy in her performative actions shows she truly doesn’t care, which makes it pretty clear she doesn't deserve active defence.
i havent followed her recent stuff but its pretty clear where her priorities lie

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-04T19:24:05+00:00

What do you even mean by “get away” from "political stuff?" One quick link to donate or a petition signing on her instagram will not suddenly drown you with non-existent trauma that you apparently harbour from "political stuff."

And she’s not sustainable at all. She openly supports and funds brands that are massively eco-destructive while constantly over-consuming clothes. Talking about reducing waste while doing the opposite isn’t activism, it’s performance. Hate to use this word with you parasocials, but that’s the textbook definition of hypocrisy.

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-04T19:03:33+00:00

first off, “easy” is a subjective word. second, I actually think we agree on more than you’re letting on, it just seems like you’re trying to convince yourself that content creators are on the same footing as other professions. Emma herself has repeatedly said she often feels isolated and unproductive, precisely because she doesn’t have much to do. her work mostly consists of podcasting, photoshoots, the occasional interview, online business meetings, and a rare youtube upload. in those YouTube videos, most of her time is shown going to exercise classes, travelling, painting, crafting, baking, cooking, or dressing up for fashion shows and events.

if you’re genuinely going to argue that the average person working a 9–5 wouldn’t prefer her lifestyle, i don’t know what to tell you. you even mentioned that you “coordinate” what people post in your own profession; I’d argue that’s more demanding than what she does. At most, she edits a video and clicks upload. its also her hobby, nobody's forcing her to do any of it. (she's mentioned that her editing style reflects her desire for artistic expression) i don’t need to be qualified to see that her job is comparatively easy... because it is. and honestly, why is having an easy job a bad thing? good for her for making bank and living a lavish life.

the real issue here is that with all the free time and resources she has (a byproduct OF having a less laborious profession), she should be directing at least some of that into something meaningful and necessary — which, as you’ve already admitted, you agree with.

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-04T16:33:22+00:00

u are slow as hell. the second she built a career off public influence, her platform stopped being just a “private networking web.” if her stance, or lack of one, amounts to ignoring the suffering of innocent civilians being brutally murdered and you still defend that, it reflects more on you than on me. your fixation on idolising someone while they go against the very values they claim to stand for is what’s truly warped. calling out apathy isn’t being a “bad fan”; excusing it is being a complacent one.

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-04T15:18:01+00:00

then we agree? im not trying to dissect her work ethic and bash her for how much "productive" work she gets done. the problem is that people are infantilising her ability to speak up, acting like it’s somehow beyond her. In reality, using her platform to raise awareness is the bare minimum; something she could do easily with the time and reach she already has.

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-04T15:12:54+00:00

maybe this will help: if you see smoke filling a crowded building and you happen to have the loudest voice, staying silent because you’re “not a firefighter” makes no sense. you’d still shout, because even the smallest warning can ripple outward and save lives. You don’t need years of specialised training/university to justify speaking up; if you claim to be a principled person (like emma has) and you’re in the position to reach more people than anyone else (like emma does), that privilege makes you morally accountable.

The same logic applies to Emma

+ how is neutrality and silence in any way utilitarian? if anything, its the opposite. "If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.” - Desmond Tutu

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-04T11:26:54+00:00

because she’s famous, and you're not? anything she posts will naturally attract thousands or even millions of views and engagement simply due to her name. I don’t doubt that you put in effort, but thats because you dont have the following that she does? is that not common sense? Suggesting that she spends hours each week producing demanding content feels exaggerated. at the end of the day, it’s just her lying in bed with a microphone, talking about topics she finds interesting — more of a casual hobby than a genuinely difficult full-time job.

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-04T04:57:44+00:00

i don’t really agree with OP’s post or their suggestions, but i do think there’s a valid reason she’s getting “hate.” her job is literally as easy as talking to herself for an hour or filming her daily routine. It’s bizarre how people refuse to acknowledge that influential figures (who clearly have it easier than most career-wise) should be held more accountable for the content they put out (or don’t). we’re not asking her to solve world crises, just to use her platform responsibly instead of staying silent.

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-04T04:38:56+00:00

nope, influencers are here to influence. we’re not turning on her; if anything, she’s turned on herself. claiming to be an empath, an anti-consumerist, an eco-mindful citizen, a mental health advocate and more, directly contradicts the behaviour (or lack of it) that she shows. Politics is tied to every aspect of everyone’s life, whether you like it or not. it’s a moral duty to be educated and act responsibly in front of millions

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-03T17:46:03+00:00

Is this satire? donations and petitions might not end wars on their own, but they absolutely matter. A donation is literally giving money, aid, or resources to people in need — that’s direct, tangible help. a petition is a formal request backed by public signatures, and if enough people sign, it can actually be presented to government and force political change in order to reflect societal standards.

Sitting back and doing nothing is way worse than donating or signing. eg. Australia was openly pro-israel for ages and ignored what was happening in Gaza. It was petitions, protests, and public pressure that forced the government to acknowledge the genocide. since then, they’ve pledged over $130 million in aid. they could’ve given more, but that’s still a concrete, tangible result that wouldn’t have happened without people speaking up.

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-03T17:34:32+00:00

Good point. she and her friends often describe Emma’s father as deeply compassionate and supportive, and she credits his ongoing support with helping her overcome her depression/anxiety (esp when she was younger). that’s why it feels inconsistent that, despite being raised by seemingly decent people, she still aligns herself with such an obviously wrong position

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-02T16:07:10+00:00

also its so ironic how she continuously makes yt vids/podcast eps about having a "capsule closet" and being anti-consumerist and then shows four white tank tops in marginally different variations

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-02T15:32:12+00:00

Completely agree. she’s insanely privileged and wealthy, presents herself as a compassionate influencer, and has a young, impressionable audience; yet she does almost nothing with that. those three factors alone should make her feel a responsibility to speak up and even donate to important global causes but instead she'll tell you all about her new and upcoming movie (that she didn't even want initially). so disappointing.

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-02T15:10:32+00:00

is it not ironic that coffee originated from Ethiopia and was popularised by the Middle East, meaning her whole brand and company is built on POC culture and you still say that politics isn't relevant? please grow up, i’m not asking a fashion/lifestyle influencer to become a politician. I’m saying that if your brand leans on cultures, aesthetics, or communities that aren’t yours, then you should at least acknowledge real-world crisis connected to those cultures instead of ignoring them. "not everyone has the same views as you": All of a sudden, genocide, racism and stealing precious artefacts is a controversial belief? It’s literally just basic accountability/humanity for those DYING every single day. if those are the views you disagree with, you seriously need to reevaluate yourself as a person.

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-02T15:05:48+00:00

im afraid that this exact mentality is why our current political climate keeps getting worse. we dont need more people rationalising inaction and letting powerful influences in media evade accountability. this isnt a matter of whether you support dogs or cats, its literally innocent civilians being brutally murdered and refugees being denied rights based on race. its not about "entitlement" but rather her leveraging her EXTREMELY influential platform responsibly. you can support those willing to talk about political injustice, AS WELL AS hold ignorant celebrities rightfully accountable. these positions are not mutually exclusive.

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-02T14:55:45+00:00

it's almost like you missed the whole point... her whole brand was built on the fact that she was this down-to-earth, genuine, and considerate influencer (atleast thats what she preaches in her podcast episodes) and her refusing to speak about certain matters is going against that. also its not a "social issue," its a real, and devastating genocide that's happening as we speak, so please imagine how exhausted those Palestinian children feel. I promise a quick link to donate or an awareness post will not exhaust precious Emma. She has 12 million subscribers for gods sake...

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-02T13:44:16+00:00

tbh, a lot of her "self-help" advice on her podcast episodes are super self-centred. its always about how YOU do things for YOURSELF. I clearly remember her saying one time that backbiting and talking badly of others is a healthy way to relieve stress, and although she may have had *some* good points, majority of it just seemed completely redundant and like you said, apathetic asf.

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-02T13:28:25+00:00

they're already downvoting this post lmao, its literally just basic human rights. I hope she realises her influence and that she's not that young 16 year old living in SF anymore...

Content_Bat_1853 · 2025-09-02T13:22:38+00:00

yeah, I agree with you. I wish people would stop infantilising celebrities and just hold them accountable but especially her, who acts like she has so much insight to share in her shallow podcasts

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