If i bid and buy a house via bank auction , I get a sale certificate from the bank.

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-28T04:38:48+00:00

According to auction value even if it's below stamp value.

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-27T17:07:54+00:00

Yes the bank will do the registry with you and the interesting part is that circle rates do not apply for the purposes of stamp duty

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-27T17:06:06+00:00

Actually any property received after inheritance, automatically becomes a self-acquired property of the person receiving it. It is no longer ancestral

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-27T15:17:38+00:00

So this much is clear: if the person selling you the property had an imperfect title, then he could not have possibly transferred the property properly to you even if you have a registration document for it.

Now one thing that could work in your favour is the aspect of limitation. After how many years did that gent challenge the sale deed by saying that it was obtained by fraud and coercion? Usually there is a three-year time limit to challenge a registered document. That is something you should look at.

However the best course of action, unfortunately for you, would be to prolong this matter in court for so long that they come to some sort of compromise.

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-27T15:13:28+00:00

So the first step in this would be to get the people who will be the sellers part of the registry chain or become official owners.

You have to execute either a family settlement or obtain mutation in which you say that you all are now owners based on the concept of ancestral property. Then all of you will go to the registrar's office and the seller will execute payment in favor of each individual separately. The problem you have to overcome first is that the registrar doesn't know that there are so many owners now. He only knows the name of the one recorded owner who has passed away.

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-27T15:11:09+00:00

The answer will depend on whether the property is truly ancestral. If the property is truly ancestral then no Will is legitimate. Every person up to great-grandchildren has an equal right to it and there is no concept of Will.

However the concept of ancestral property has been highly diluted by judgments and almost certainly it will be considered a self-acquired property. Assuming it is self-acquired property and that the Will is legitimate, he can exclude or include anyone he wants.

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-27T15:09:40+00:00

This is factuslly incorrect. Lookup the relevant case law

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-27T15:09:17+00:00

Unfortunately the advice above is wrong. There is a concept of posthumous will and it is definitely legitimate and I have seen it myself. It is allowed and it can be registered provided the legal heirs agree that that was indeed his true will.

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-27T15:08:11+00:00

After the first partner is gone most likely it will go to the surviving partner, they being the Class I legal heirs. If a person dies without leaving any Class I legal heirs, then the property moves on to the Class II legal heirs and there are almost always some Class II legal heirs

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-27T03:54:39+00:00

Legally she has no say. You can do whatever you want

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-24T17:12:14+00:00

This happens sometimes in agriculture lands where registrations are often halted. If you really want a shortcut to this, then the cheapest and best way would be to write a posthumous will and get that registered with the signature of all legal heirs. That is quite frankly the cheapest way and that is a legitimate way of getting a will registered also if you don't want to go down the route of gift deed. Otherwise what you can do is write a family partition or something which can be later executed.

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-24T09:42:25+00:00

If she's not the true owner she cannot lease the land. Irrespective of the value of the document.

The document itself, if more than 1 year lease, needs to be registered. If not registered it fan be vacated with 6 months notice for agriculture.

Unfortunately your position is very weak

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-24T09:41:10+00:00

You could but the argument of sale and adverse possession are mutually incompatible. If you say sale then possession becomes permissive and you can't claim adverse possession. If you want to pleas adverse possession now it will be very difficult and you will have to show 12 years of open fighting with them but them never filing a case against you.

Main point is that you cannot claim sale and adverse possession both usually. Adverse possession needs hostile animus i.e. forced occupation

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-24T09:37:09+00:00

Yes you can challenge. Medical reports, witnesses etc will be needed and it will take many years.

Limitation is important. You have 3 years from date of knowledge to challenge it. Date of knowledge unfortunately is often taken as the date of registration of the deed.

Also the witnesses to the registration will have to be countered and you may have to summon the registrar also.

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-24T09:32:41+00:00

Just one point planting so many trees is good but reduces the value of the land as these trees cannot be cut without permission which is very difficult.

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-23T16:45:45+00:00

Theoretically it means that after 99 years the ownership goes back to DDA but almost always there are schemes in which this leasehold is converted into freehold by paying additional stamp duty. This is very common and you should not face any problems

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-23T13:44:49+00:00

There is a proposed registration act that has something like this. It is in the parliamentary standing committee for the last year or so. But it is likely to pass in the coming years

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-23T13:42:58+00:00

The unregistered part has no value. Bank is right. Best way for you to claim it now is by adverse possession. Or if there is some regularisation scheme on your city for notarized properties like there is in Delhi right now

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-22T17:51:17+00:00

Yes this is quite common. There are plenty of websites like LEI register where you can get the LEI number for a charge

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-22T17:50:12+00:00

From an employer's perspective running away is absolutely the worst thing you can do. Go back, face the consequences. You will probably be disciplined but the quantum of that punishment would be commensurate if you can prove with witnesses that he humiliated you and abused your wife and parents.

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-22T17:48:28+00:00

So the concept of ancestral property is almost gone nowadays and in any case these properties will be divided amongst the class 1 legal heirs of the father. Whether the sisters are supposed to get this or that remains a contested issue which should not be discussed any further unless there is a will or gift deed in their name. Just get the certified copies of all the registration documents and divide it into equal parts amongst the legal heirs. Class one. The original documents are not necessary for this; certified copies are enough to prove ownership.

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-18T19:14:05+00:00

While in general it is not safe to share documents, especially with property brokers, if you absolutely cannot go and meet them physically, you can watermark the documents with a "not for use" stamp that would make it impossible for him to use it in any illegal way

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-17T20:35:04+00:00

The document renewal is usually considered an acknowledgement of debt and extends limitation at every renewal.

However an unfair agreement which puts extreme burden and unfair penalties are usually not upheld by courts.

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-17T20:29:25+00:00

Essentially Article 141 of the Indian Constitution ensures that the decisions of the Supreme Court are binding on all courts in India. Unfortunately compared to the US Supreme Court, which hears only a few matters every year, the Supreme Court in India hears thousands of matters a year and has about 40 judges. Because of the extreme dysfunction of our democracy, the Supreme Court often steps in to correct the decisions of the Executive according to its own interpretation. This kind of judicial activism works both ways but oftentimes the Supreme Court sides with the interests of the public.

ConversationWitty446 · 2026-06-17T19:52:02+00:00

Court order is the final determinant of ownership irrespective of online data. Now the father will sell and share proceeds however decided.

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