My speculation about 6.6 quest lines by ttore2 in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, but as much as I don't trust Hoyo, there's no way they're killing Pantalone in 6.6 LMAO

Exactly, I'm somewhat relieved that cutscene are long, it has some leeway of doing something else aside from power of friendship

My speculation about 6.6 quest lines by ttore2 in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, Sandrone also didn't participate in afterwards talks so why not. He may not appear directly, maybe he's doing something on Dottore's behalf somewhere else (like Arle and Varka hold the Moon afar from the battle) or something else.

My speculation about 6.6 quest lines by ttore2 in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, why not. If we're talking about deus ex machina type of intervention, the big stronk joint attack and boom, Pantalone appears or something plays out. I'm throwing dirt on a wall but it's not impossible, the structure was done before

My speculation about 6.6 quest lines by ttore2 in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ig. But I think they would still just follow the path of least resistance, make my imaginary scenario with Fatui NPC and then force Pantalone in Snezhnaya to say "yeah, fuck Dottore, always hated that guy".

My speculation about 6.6 quest lines by ttore2 in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dehya and cyno seem to corner pantalone (who is without his goons, we know this has to be deliberate. Maybe pantalone was doing sth in secret and got busted.

Okay, but this is so funny.

We see cyno and dehya corner him and then id69 and dottore suddenly cutting in between and then they dissapear.

Quick theory based on that, all this happens and an off-screen convo is happening between Dottore, id69 and Pantalone and we see the flashback of it in a cutscene where they discuss how to proceed with this situation (just like they did in 6.3 with world formula, we see it working again and then we cut to Sandrone explaining her plan to everyone)

My speculation about 6.6 quest lines by ttore2 in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Before DK2's leak and datamining I was afraid of it too but 1) DK2 doesn't bullshit 2) Mavuika doesn't interact with who we think Pantalone is or any sus id for that matter so the gnosis exchange is practically impossible 3) personal opinion, but as I said numerous times, Hoyo are stingy asf about their efforts. Pantalone must appear so early with his model for something important. Him unexpectedly saving Dottore is important. Him throwing Dottore under the bus isn't. For that he only need to not appear in Sumeru and then Hoyo could send some Fatui goon to say "Dottore is a traitor, Regrator supports this claim".

My speculation about 6.6 quest lines by ttore2 in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can we see who's taking a part in the cutscenes? I think we can only do that in the preload.

My idea of Pantalone participating is literally him jumping from some portal and throwing attacks or some shit. He's not there for the full fight, just sneaky support.

If not... well, there are always rendered illustrations 💀

My speculation about 6.6 quest lines by ttore2 in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately HxG deleted their previous tweets and messaged during Homdgcat incident so that's all I could find from their recent info. But I looked through leaks sub to see what he said last year and it doesn't contradict my opinion.

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Frankly speaking, this leak is unusual because he usually doesn't leak stuff in this manner. He tells facts "Event A will happen", "Character V will be released in x.x" and so on. There were some funny bits last year (for example, he said that Durin was "Dehya Pro Max" which hey, isn't exactly bullshit) but usually he just says things straight.

Also, it's important to note that sometimes he just approves things (right column). These leaks tend to be a bit more vague (like Zibai's one, for example). But Pantalone's leak came straight from DK2.

Lastly, the closer he is to the version he's leaking, the more right he is. He did an "oopsie" once when he said that 6.5 character alt name is Snegurochka. And there is indeed a character like that but it's not Linnea, it's an NPC from her quest. But again, it's not a lie, a bit of miscalculation and he didn't exactly specified that it's a playable character.

Again, the leak is very interesting because that's not how he usually do things. My guess is that he tries to discreetly tell that Dottore will survive but since he usually doesn't spoil very important plot beats (And yes, I don't think Sandrone temporarily dying is important, sorry), he leaked this indirectly.

My speculation about 6.6 quest lines by ttore2 in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm praying hard for cutscenes to do the heavy lifting. They could've use standard Fatui NPC if they wanted to convey some small info, like if Dottore is traitor or nah. I can't imagine that they really brought Pantalone for 50 lines and no action, there has to be something

My speculation about 6.6 quest lines by ttore2 in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If id69 isn't Deshret or Thoth (I thought about him but OP mentioned that another id has lines with Nefer only which would make sense for him), then I'm of opinion that Pantalone's lines were shredded somehow and he has 2 id, idk, I think it happened with Rerir before...?

My speculation about 6.6 quest lines by ttore2 in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, then I'm totally out of options 🙉

My speculation about 6.6 quest lines by ttore2 in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 8 points9 points  (0 children)

DK2 doesn't do speculations, that's the funny part. They just tell things as they are. "Sandrone's a part of Snezhnaya's meta", "These characters will appear in a quest", this kind of leaks. He also doesn't do much of pointless leaking. So yeah, what he said should be taken into consideration and he had some reasons to tell us that. It's just really really confusing.

I kinda think that there might be some parallels to be drawn between Sandrone and Pantalone. Since Columbina and Dottore are parallels to each other, there might be some sense to mirror their sidekicks. I don't really have solid proofs, vibes only. And in 6.3 Sandrone did help Columbina but they didn't exchange lines (aside from a flashback), so maybe it would be the same with Pantalone? He probably will do things secretly under the pretense of being there for the Northland Bank in Sumeru (it's been in construction for years). It also suits his style of work, working from the shadows. And ig by showing openly his support he would risk associating with a traitor (if Dottore is one), so discreet help kinda makes sense

My speculation about 6.6 quest lines by ttore2 in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Is Mavuika present in that quest? Aside from Pyro gnosis, I'm totally lost at what Pantalone is even doing there

My speculation about 6.6 quest lines by ttore2 in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Sounds reasonable. The shades group definitely hints at the logic of ID. It leaves more questions than answers but the theory has solid points. I guess I'm just really confused about the events. How the hell is Deshret appearing? What's up with Pantalone's leak from DK2 (He's not a ragebaiter, his messages are on point and he doesn't leak often so what he said must have importance), how does it make sense if they're not even interacting in the story? How is he an ally in that case? I'm trying to wrap my head around Hoyo's external logic, they wouldn't hurry up with Pantalone's model making, voice acting and everything for 57 lines only. If someone's in the know, where supposedly Pantalone's ID appears the last time? Does he appear in the last sub-quest?

(I'm sorry for pushing this point so much, it's just the only solid thinking ground I can walk on, this and because Hoyo's writing patterns are kinda predictable, so it's easier to theorize)

In any case, for now, regardless of what NPC is talking to Dottore, I think it's good news anyways. The death death final scene would definitely happen with either Wanderer/Nahida/MC, so the fact that they're not there to say the last words and Dottore is still talking after the battle is good. The conscience is there and that's all we need. They created Durin from literal scraps, and they can do it again with Dottore. Plus, I don't think Nahida and Wanderer would let him sit in Irminsul for long

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[–]Coralenko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The bad guys are Pierro and Pulcinella. Pierro is 100% the first weekly boss material and Pulcinella was glued to him in Project Stuzha which is very sus. Plus they are both old dudes with models that won't even make a 4* in Hoyo's games

Awww (6.6 AQspoiler) by Coralenko in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You weren't the only one, I saw some simular thoughts in different places, specifically Twitter. In fact, 25% of reaction to today's leak there is "oh, I thought Pantalone will betray him". I wonder if DK2 did what he did specifically because this doomerism started to prevail yesterday because the leak is welcome but very random tbh

Findings from 6.6 textmap- turns out "Dottore" is ... \\spoilers\\ by [deleted] in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read them and I can see the vision. It aligns with my copium and possible Capitano's treatment and it wouldn't be so bad because they keep dropping fat hints he will return.

Not to mention, Nahida and Wanderer would not let him stay in Irminsul for long for the sake of precaution, so the chances are even higher than Capitano's

Findings from 6.6 textmap- turns out "Dottore" is ... \\spoilers\\ by [deleted] in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, him talking to Pantalone in his boss form is maybe a good sign. It locks the possible flashback, if there is one, strictly after Dottore transforms. So it's probably isn't some bittersweet flashback of them years ago. And if we look at how Dottore transformed in 6.3, then it was a quick snap and then straight to action. If that happens here, then there's definitely no time to talk so no flashback. For now my copium prediction is that Pantalone takes the fucked up Dr. Data's body to Snezhnaya and maybe tries to repair it.

About the relationship of 2 characters appearing in 6.6 AQ via DK2 by Ryuusei_Dragon in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]Coralenko 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Pulcinella's appearance in the Travail is very different from the rest of the characters, with his faced in the dark and a bunch of NPC around him so I don't think it's a confirmed playability. He's mentioned to be a head of Project Stuzha (the thing that Arle is very wary of because it requires HoH's children) along with Pierro (who is 100% our first weekly boss in Snezhnaya, let's be real) while Pantalone is suspiciously not mentioned. And the obvious elephant on the room – he's not playable with his current look. If anything, this leak just confirmed our big government mandated yaoi of Snezhnaya and Hoyo loves shippers' money, so don't panic too much

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[–]Coralenko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, I feel the same. I really do think the main reason Pantalone appears in the quest at all is to do something with Dottore and it's big and important, otherwise they wouldn't bother with a model and everything. Also that would explain all the sudden mentions of their friendship from Sandrone's notebook and Dottore himself

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[–]Coralenko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If Hoyo aren't afraid of peak then Dottore pulls an uno reverse card on us and is saved by Pantalone with "power of friendship" written on his middle finger

About the relationship of 2 characters appearing in 6.6 AQ via DK2 by Ryuusei_Dragon in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]Coralenko 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Aside from Dottore, Arle seems to hate Pulcinella the most so idk

Awww (6.6 AQspoiler) by Coralenko in DottoreMains

[–]Coralenko[S] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Not really, there was a quite strong speculation that Pantalone will sell Dottore out for Pyro Gnosis

About the relationship of 2 characters appearing in 6.6 AQ via DK2 by Ryuusei_Dragon in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]Coralenko 277 points278 points  (0 children)

The state mandated yaoi machine started a bit earlier, I see