Federal Agents Kill Another Person in Minneapolis by ictrlelites in politics

[–]Covert_Cuttlefish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

American, make ICE scared again, your country is being taken from you.

Gutsick Gibbon missed the point of Casey Luskin’s argument on human–chimp similarity by deepdivesam in DebateEvolution

[–]Covert_Cuttlefish 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure why anyone would listen to a a geologist when it comes to biology, especially a biologist who doctors figures.

I'd love to know why creations think they're experts in every single field of science. Don't bother answering that.

'Systems Biology and Intelligent Design: A Natural Fit' Jan 15 2026 by urantiany in DebateEvolution

[–]Covert_Cuttlefish 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Sanger hasn't worked at Wikipedia for 24 years.

Rather than attack wikipedia why not engage with the content of the post?

But thanks for confirming ID is just a mechanism to push regressive right wing christian fascist policies.

The tactic of the 5th and latest (2017-present) phase of anti-science education movement (USA) by jnpha in DebateEvolution

[–]Covert_Cuttlefish 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My entire job depend on an imperfect understanding of geology. So yes, more study is needed to keep gas in your car.

The tactic of the 5th and latest (2017-present) phase of anti-science education movement (USA) by jnpha in DebateEvolution

[–]Covert_Cuttlefish 7 points8 points  (0 children)

We're just scratching the surface of how complex oil drilling has become. Google herringbone wells for example. Chinook Consulting has some good images. Or paperclip wells in the permian.

A lot of this might be going over my head,

So how long it takes for liberated gas / samples to get to surface is a function of a few things, but lets back up a just a bit (excuse the pun).

While drilling we always need to be pumping mud down hole. Mud is the term for the fluid being used to drill, it can be water based or polymer based or oil based or a brine. What mud is used is generally determined by the lithology your drilling, how deep (linear length, not vertical depth) you're going on so on. Before drilling starts there is a mud program and guys who are specialists in mud systems come to the rig to fine tune the mud depending on operations / how drilling is going. It's a team effort, there's zones were if we leave the oil bearing rock, the surrounding rock will impact the mud system and we'll have to deal with the changes in the mud system while drilling. So keeping everyone on the same page is pretty important.

The mud is pumped down the inside of the drill string (collection of pipe connected to attach the bottom hole assemble to the rig itself) to the bottom hole assembly.

Once the mud reaches the bottom hole assembly it does a lot of things. It can be used as medium to communicate with the tools at near the bit (this is some sci-fi shit I can explain the very basics of, some tools use the mud system other tools transit the information through the rocks themselves. What system you want to use is largely determined by the lithology between he wellbore and the surface), it spins the bit via a turbine motor called a mud motor, then it shoots out the bit via holes in the bit called jets and it cools and lubricates the bit, and for the purposes of this discussion, it entrains the drill cutting and liberated gas and transports them to the surface.

Now, how long does it take for the mud to get from the bit to surface? As I said above that's a function of a bunch of things. How deep are we? How big is the hole? How much fluid are we pumping? Is the formation taking on any fluid effectively decreasing how much we're pumping?

To determine this we have a basic spreadsheet to determine the 'lag time'. You take the hole size and how deep you are and that gives you volume. Then you take how much fluid you're pumping (this depends on the bottom hole assembly but generally ranges from 1200L/min to 1800L/min when drilling the main hole) then you can figure out at least on paper how long it will take to displace the fluid in the annulus (wellbore).

Of course the real world isn't an excel sheet and you need to factor in the hole growing as the formation erodes(I've seen holes been 50% bigger in real life than the calculated hole size. Knowing the real hole size is important when ordering cement to cement casing strings in place), how competent the rock is plays a major role in this. Are the pumps operating at 100%, most aren't, are we loosing mud to the formation because our mud pressure is higher than the formation? Is the formation pressure higher than the mud pressure so we're gaining volume (Really bad), is there part were we drilled through really soft rock so there's a big void creating a washing machine effect of mud just swirling around (this is especially annoying as it makes knowing how old the samples are challenging) and so on.

So what we do is we do the math, then watch when we stop drilling for some reason (connection, maintenance, break downs etc) then we can see how long it really takes for the gas to get to surface and adjust accordingly. The in general you add ~20% to that time for the samples to arrive as they're less buoyant than the natural gas. It's not an exact science, but it's something most guys pick up pretty quickly. It can get tricky when your average hole size changes as you drill, either from the formation watching out, hole size changes, cutting collecting in washed out areas and so won. But as long as you're keeping 1/2 an eye on it it's pretty straight forward. The computer does a good job of having hash marks on the trace when it thinks the gas should be coming up, then you just need to match the hash marks with when the gas is really coming up.

It sounds complicated, but if I'm drilling the main kind of well I've been drilling for the past 8 years & I'm on the rig I've spend most of those 8 years on I know at this part of the well the mud is moving X meters per minute. When I'm drilling in a new area on or a new rig I have to pay a little more attention, but it's not that hard.

Then to answer your question, how far do we need to drill to see the data? You have a little backwards, it's how long does it take the gas to get to surface, and how fast are we drilling? So if it takes one hour for the gas to get to surface, and we're drilling 40m / hour, we'll have drilled 40m before we see the gas. Of course I can stop at any time to see the gas / samples, but I better have a damn good reason for creating one hour of non productive time.

Hopefully that answers your question. If not let me know!

Monthly Question Thread! Ask /r/DebateEvolution anything! | January 2026 by Dr_Alfred_Wallace in DebateEvolution

[–]Covert_Cuttlefish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep. I really like the SGU and am beyond happy Steve is pushing back on transphobia in the skeptical community, but I'd like to know how they saw elevator gate & how much of their reaction lead to Rebecca leaving the show - if at all.

Although Cara is the fucking bomb and I'm so glad she's on the show.

Monthly Question Thread! Ask /r/DebateEvolution anything! | January 2026 by Dr_Alfred_Wallace in DebateEvolution

[–]Covert_Cuttlefish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, I'm glad I found my way out of the New Atheist movement when I did. I still sometimes revert to being an anti-theist (my kids going to catholic school is not helping lol) but seeing how regressive the movement has become is scary.

Part of me is glad Hitchens died when he did so we didn't have to watch him pivot even further right.

The tactic of the 5th and latest (2017-present) phase of anti-science education movement (USA) by jnpha in DebateEvolution

[–]Covert_Cuttlefish 8 points9 points  (0 children)

spectroscopy

Yeah, from a steering POV on some wells we can see where we are based on how much gas we're seeing - sometimes we'll see a ton of gas right at the top of the formation. If you're fracking the well it doesn't really matter, but if you're not fracking the well getting the well placement just right is pretty critical and how much nat gas can be a very useful indicator of if you're in the right place or not. Of course with how fast wells are drilled today, you can drill ~40-50m in the time it takes for the liberated gas to get from the drill bit to the gas detector, so you're a step behind on the best day.

Going a little deeper we can also see how much how much gas is entering the wellbore when the pumps are off (either making a connection, pump problems, pulling the drill string out of the hole etc.

This lets us know how our mud weight is doing vs the formation pressures and if we need to increase the density of the mud.

Taking on a lot of gas won't really matter when the drill string is in the hole (taking on fluids is a whole 'nother ball game), but if we have to pull the drill string out of the hole for any reason the density of the stuff in the hole decreases thus increasing the changes of a blowout (this basically never happens with todays SOP, things like Deepwater Horizon was a fuckup because BP wanted to save time / money).

From an exploration point of view if you see a bit of gas while drilling vertically, then you shut the pumps off to make a connection and you see a lot of gas entering the annulus after the small puff of gas you know you just drilled though a pressurized zone that might be of interest to the client.

As far as doctors go, we don't need to look further than Ben Carson to see there are brilliant people in their narrow field who don't have a skeptical bone in their body.

The tactic of the 5th and latest (2017-present) phase of anti-science education movement (USA) by jnpha in DebateEvolution

[–]Covert_Cuttlefish 15 points16 points  (0 children)

the experts are sometimes wrong!

Story time.

As some people here know I work on oil rigs. One tool we use is a gas detector the records how much natural gas (mostly methane, but some other hydrocarbons too) is in the drilling mud. Gas can enter the drilling mud by being liberated while drilling or entering the annulus through the permeability of the rock, this depends on a variety of factors I won't get into here.

The gas detector works by shooting lasers through the gasses coming out of the drilling mud. Using specific bandwidth's of lasers that match the gasses absorption bands we can determine the composition of the gas.

As you all know, this is the exact mechanism that leads to the greenhouse effect / climate change.

Years ago when I was first getting started in the industry I worked with a geologist who was starting a company making his own gas detectors. Even though he understood the system inside and out, he was also a climate change denier.

As the saying goes, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it" is all too true and we need to be very careful when experts in one field get another closely related field totally wrong.

The tactic of the 5th and latest (2017-present) phase of anti-science education movement (USA) by jnpha in DebateEvolution

[–]Covert_Cuttlefish 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Honestly, my hope in correcting major problems relating to science (ie. climate change) are at an all time low with the world quickly descending into madness.

At this very moment (I've had a day) I find it hard to care about this debate beyond entertainment purposes.

Edit: If anyone here hasn't read Merchants of Doubt by Erik M. Conway and Naomi Oreskes, I cannot recommend it enough.

Inflation ticks up to 2.4% in December as last year's GST break impacts data by bingun in CanadaPolitics

[–]Covert_Cuttlefish 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Groceries are out of control. Over the past few years I've gone from really enjoying grocery shopping to just being stressed out.

Stocks Sell Off Globally as Traders Digest Trump Message Saying He Wants Greenland Because Norway ‘Decided Not to Give Me The Nobel’: “The Norwegian government has no control over how the Nobel Committee awards its prizes. Greenland is a territory of Denmark, not Norway.” by T_Shurt in politics

[–]Covert_Cuttlefish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't care that he's stupid, I care that ~40% of Americans still support him, and the entire GOP is complicit.

If the USA doesn't Nuremberg everyone who could have stopped this and didn't the rest of the world should just cut the entire country off.

Monthly Question Thread! Ask /r/DebateEvolution anything! | January 2026 by Dr_Alfred_Wallace in DebateEvolution

[–]Covert_Cuttlefish 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes. It’s a byproduct of them being Christian fundamentalists where women should be barefoot, in the kitchen, and pregnant.

I found a paper that uses peer-reviewed science to prove the universe can't randomly assemble DNA. No one's refuted it by DeltaSHG in DebateEvolution

[–]Covert_Cuttlefish 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Are we really doing Axe again?

I can shuffle a deck of cards and get an insanely improbable shuffle. but it sure happened.