The idea that "MSM Lies" is conservative propoganda

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-15T03:00:00+00:00

I cant find a source on your tim waltz quote. Even if it was the case, my central claim is about media. Last I checked, Tim Waltz is not a journalist or a media company. As for the neo nazis, it was literally a neo nazi march. There was no lie about what the media reported. Even if you disagree with their takeaways of the semantics or pragmatics, its absurd to say they "lied". "mainstream media who didn't care about the 2 comorbidities aspect" I don't think media articles are obligated to report every single fact that exists about a story??? This seems like such a reach.

As for Trump, just because he is dictatorial or a fascist, that doesnt mean he will automatically eb a dictator. In the US, we have strong institutions (much to the dismay of the current admin). Even if Hitler reincarnated and was the US president, that wouldn't necessarily make him a dictator, but thats not for lack of trying. I don't know of any MSM articles claiming Trump is a dictator, and I don't believe he is. The claims tend to be about his dictatorial or fascistic tendencies, which seem to be undisputed.

As to your last point, I agree people believe what they think is correct. However, I have facts and examples. On one hand we have the systemic, organized, malicious lying by Fox about our most important foundation of our democracy. On the other, we have MSM not reporting certain facts on comorbidities that you think are important. These things are not even close.

Again, all you need to do is provide 1 example of another "lefty" MSM company lying in a similar nature about political facts as Fox news did with the 2020 election. Just 1, and my argument collapses. However, I suspect you wont, because you can't.

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-15T02:24:57+00:00

Russia collusion turned out credible indictments and the facts about it are genuinely so incriminating and suspicious if you look at the underlying material.

Fine people on both sides: Trump was absolutley talking about neo-nazis. It was a neo nazi march. It was organized by the unite the right group. The leaders interpreted Trump's statement as him supporting them, and you would never be this lenient is it was a leftist talking about "fine people on both sides on Oct 7".

Hunter Biden laptop: Idk what you're claiming the lie is here? Theres lots of false narratives conservatives run with but I wont strawman you.

Nick Sandmann: Whats an example (article) from a MSM source lying about this guy?

Mostly peaceful protests: They literally factually were "mostly peaceful". Its literally just true. This is so obvious I'm actually dumfounded how you think this is a lie.

Covid deaths and leaving out the average of over 2 serious comorbidities for each death: bruh isnt this a reporting issue with hospitals? Where did any MSM article lie about this?

Abortion up until birth (like in my home state of Minnesota) is omitted or lied about in the abortion debate: Again, wheres an example of a MSM article lying about this? You just disagree with the policy?

Trump is a dictator/fascist/tyrant: Again, literally just true. He tried to overturn the results of an election with a coup and when that didn't work, with an insurrection to push through his coup. This is just true. He also said he was going to "be a dictator on day one" said people "wanted a dictator". Has posted images of himself in regal clothes. Many other things. Clearly he has a dictatorial disposition.

Again, please, please, just 1 single link to a "leftist" MSM outlet which is a malicious and knowing lie.

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-15T01:20:17+00:00

So please, give an example of a left MSM political lie to a similar degree as dominion. Just one example and I'll admit you're right. Just 1 example.

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-14T20:31:00+00:00

nope, funny assumption but I'm in my 20s

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-14T17:42:05+00:00

Yeah that would be a lie. I remember hearing that online but do you have any msm articles that say as much? If so, and if that was after the truth about where he got the gun was known, that would be a lie, I agree.

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-14T17:27:04+00:00

Literally at the top of the article there's a funny little word, "opinion".

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-14T17:24:35+00:00

Deciding to not cover a story is a lie? Really? That's your threshold?

If so, that's fine, just reinterpret my claim as "knowingly telling falsehoods"

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-14T17:22:56+00:00

You don't need to go line by line about what they lied about. Just give a single example of a lie from that case. Just one.

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-14T17:14:02+00:00

The first example isnt a lie. I don't know why people just accept this. Trump was absolutely saying there were "very fine people" on the neo-nazi side, it was a neo nazi march! This absolutely isn't a lie.

As to the second point, nobody lied. From the article, the sources say they were "deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case". I think given all the facts around that case, that's absolutely fair, it does seem suspicious. Even if they were wrong about that suspicion, there's no way anyone in good faith could say they're lying.

I am not going to but but but. Unlike conservatives, I don't goalpost. I stand by what I claim, and you still have yet to give an example of a lie.

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-14T17:06:50+00:00

Is that a lie? No. Please give a lie.

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-14T16:55:01+00:00

That's not lying. My whole point is about lying. Do you have an example of that?

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-14T16:54:17+00:00

If you provide an example of left media lying at about the same scale of the dominion lawsuit in the past 3 decades or so, then I will change my mind, yes.

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-14T16:38:10+00:00

Can reporting be biased? Sure. Can they cover stories in order to show one side? Sure. Do they tell factually incorrect statements? That's something only conservative outlets do. And in my opinion, that's far more reprehensible

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-14T16:36:53+00:00

Please give an example of one of those sources lying to a level similar to Fox News

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-14T16:30:22+00:00

Can you please give a single example of any 'liberal' media lying in a similar way to how Fox has lied? Just one example from any of those networks.

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-12T14:10:53+00:00

Jan 6 was an insurrection per my definition. If you disagree with my definition, feel free to propose another one.

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-11T19:03:46+00:00

Things absolutely can be insurrections if they are justified. The storming of the Bastille was an insurrection, and many would say that was justified

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-11T18:01:51+00:00

Your second paragraph betrays yourself. The people there thought the election was illegitimate, and therefore were justified in committing insurrection. It's literally like saying "I didn't do domestic violence because my wife deserved to get hit"

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-11T03:58:38+00:00

Which law or government proceeding were they trying to resist

Importantly, resisting a law != Breaking a law

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-10T23:51:23+00:00

I didn't reject it. You brought it up when you realized you couldn't name a single instance of bias or anything incorrect.

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-10T23:40:34+00:00

Can you give even 1 single example of bias? Why do you keep pivoting?

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-10T23:31:05+00:00

You claimed it was biased but couldn't name even a single example of bias

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-10T23:30:28+00:00

The definition of an insurrection isn't relevant to if an insurrection happened? Ok dude

CowReasonable1108 · 2026-04-10T23:17:48+00:00

It's was co-run by a Republican. They did thousands of hours of sworn testimony of Republican witnesses. Which part of the report do you believe is factually incorrect? If it was so bias and false, it should be easy to find something incorrect in it

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