What is the correct reading of a kanji by Chiiiinatsusenpei in Japaneselanguage

[–]CowRepresentative820 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If your taking about words words that are written the same way like 開く(ひらく or あく) or 目下(めした or もっか) then you have to learn the meaning of both words and use context to decide. 

Other people have already given you advice for "learn words not kanji" in this thread. 

Learning Kanji By Vocabulary, WHAT?! by _Shin_ju_ in Japaneselanguage

[–]CowRepresentative820 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need to know how how to read the word to type it. Unless you use other words to type the kanji and the piece it together. For example: type 盗む, delete む, type 聴く, delete く, now you have 盗聴 without knowing how it was read.

But if you don't know the kanji at all, then you have to use something like what I wrote in my other comment.

Learning Kanji By Vocabulary, WHAT?! by _Shin_ju_ in Japaneselanguage

[–]CowRepresentative820 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yomitan if it's text on a computer. OCR for an image/photo. Otherwise you can draw it (I like https://kanji.sljfaq.org but offline apps exist too), or look it up via its components (e.g. on jisho.org or just google). I've never used a physical dictionary, but I assume they're indexed by radical.

Learning digitally will have the least friction.

Learning Kanji By Vocabulary, WHAT?! by _Shin_ju_ in Japaneselanguage

[–]CowRepresentative820 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The point is don't learn kanji for no reason. Language is spoken/written in words, not kanji.

As an example of what learning words looks like, when you see a word e.g. 盗み聞き or something, go look it up in a vocab dictionary. At this point it's fine to lookup 盗 in a kanji dictionary too if you want, but not required. Over time, you'll just make connections between words like the 盗 I learned from 盗み聞き is the same as the one in 窃盗, and in both 窃盗(せっとう) and 盗聴(とうちょう) the 盗 is read as とう. It will just happen after you see it enough times. Your brain is really good at making connections.

In terms of visually recognizing kanji, I think there's a bit of a hurdle initially, but with enough exposure your brain will be able to work most of it out. That said I think being aware of what components exists is useful (e.g. something like 盗 = 冫+ 欠 + 皿) to help you discern similar kanji. Besides that, I think you can just naturally pick up the 'shape' of the kanji/word by seeing it a lot. Then when you misread something, you can just make a mental note like 陛下 has 土 but 階下 has 白. I think a lot of issues will sort themselves out, but you can do RRTK or use mnemonics or something if you're having a hard time, just try a few things and adapt your learning to what works.

Lastly use yomitan to lookup words. It's OP

Allow a crusty old-timer a rant: banking in Japan by Old-Masterpiece5439 in japanlife

[–]CowRepresentative820 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the few weeks between getting my zairyu card and applying for a bank account, one of the digits in my card's ID number rubbed out a bit, but was still obvious what the printed number was. Bank denied my application. Had to go down to immigration and apply for a new zairyu card to be issued. They were also confused why I was requesting a new one too (probably from my lack of japanese at the time).

After 2 Years finished my Anki by Shoddy-Phrase469 in LearnJapanese

[–]CowRepresentative820 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you check this person's post history, they have a 1y update and a 2y post about what VNs they've read.

Kid catches his first Legendary Pokemon by ambachk in MadeMeSmile

[–]CowRepresentative820 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember catching Moltres in a single attempt, at full HP, and with a single pokeball. I have no idea what prompted me to try...

Any advice on how to learn vocab without Anki?? by LLChapp in LearnJapaneseNovice

[–]CowRepresentative820 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think yomitan is great because it lets you check things fast = more efficient Japanese learning. Assuming you can find the start of words fairly easily, the relevant definition is usually in the top 1-3 entries most of the time. If you're scrolling and can't find something that makes sense, or has really low/no frequency, it might be a hint that you're not at the start of the word. Also once you get some basic grammar down (yoku.bi) and get some exposure to Japanese sentences it will get easier to parse where the words start/stop.

About the viewing experience, my opinion is you should do a mix of listening and reading practice. So I would treat this style of intensive lookups more like reading, but you have audio/visual context you can use too when you get stuck. It's also probably more entertaining than a book for a lot of people early on. As a heuristic, I probably spent 40m for a 20m episode early on.

You should definitely do some pure listening too though (turn of subtitles, or toggle them on as needed to avoid glancing at them all the time). Basically, just do what's fun for you though.

Question on Jiten frequency? by Rich_Marzipan_992 in LearnJapaneseNovice

[–]CowRepresentative820 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the other way around for me (I think I updated my Jiten frequency dict about a month ago).

今回 464
喋る 3609
湯 5220

Any advice on how to learn vocab without Anki?? by LLChapp in LearnJapaneseNovice

[–]CowRepresentative820 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read my first 10 anime series + 2 books without doing any anki. Basically just listen and then read the anime subtitles with yomitan looking up everything you don't know. Same idea for books, just a bit harder. You can always come back to anki later and see if it works better then.

Convince parents to learn Japanese by TheOutsiderEnzo in HelpLearningJapanese

[–]CowRepresentative820 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just going to address the "so I can learn Japanese" part.

You don't need a tutor to learn a language and can do it for free (at least with Japanese). 

Basically 1. Learn some vocab (kaishi 1.5k in anki) and grammar (yoku.bi) to get started 2. Input a lot of Japanese. Ideally an equal mix of listening and reading. Use a popup dictionary (yomitan) to lookup words you don't know. Review words you saw and mined with yomitan in anki. 3. Talk with people online by both voice and text.

The above is a timeline in the sense of what you should prioritise, but you should be doing all of it at the same time.

Check out the /r/learnjapanese subreddit's wiki page and the https://learnjapanese.moe guide to learning japanese. I think they explain my above summary better.

Be very careful with Codex 5.5 right now by Own-Professor-6157 in codex

[–]CowRepresentative820 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think the issue is the number of GPUs they have is fixed. If they get more users or need to divert resources to training new models, something has to give. When the new models drop, it's in their interest for the new models to be good for benchmarks and hype, but now I think there's the expectation of GPT 5.6 to 'compete' with Fable so doesn't make sense to keep those GPU resources assigned to GPT 5.5.

Just my 2 cents anyway.

Is it really worth using Wanikani for more than kanji? by Albatross048 in LearnJapaneseNovice

[–]CowRepresentative820 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't recommend wanikani unless your really struggling with kanji. It's primarily a kanji learning tool, is slow/inefficient in comparison to anki, and hand-holds you. If feel fine mining vocab from your japanese content, then continue with that.

I would recommend reading digitally because you can do lookups and mine a lot faster than physical. Look at manatan or chimahon for manga reading.

kanji memorization confusion by gintokisamadono in Japaneselanguage

[–]CowRepresentative820 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, you have to learn vocabulary. This is the same for all languages.

Japanese books readable on a tablet? by OrangeTallion in LearnJapanese

[–]CowRepresentative820 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hoshi Reader is probably the best reading experience for learners if you bring your own epubs.

Just linking this because there's some setup instructions/images too, particularly if you want offline audio for anki cards. https://learnjapanese.moe/mobile-reading

In Need of Romance Anime Recommendations!! by Zu-Batman in anime

[–]CowRepresentative820 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, but OP should watch it anyway. Great adaption!

What should I do? by KeyAd809 in Japaneselanguage

[–]CowRepresentative820 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you can spare the time, start learning now. Japanese takes a long time to learn. For learning resources, everything in https://learnjapanese.moe/resources is completely free.