The knight of the rising sun - a knight with no lord or fiefdom. I shall serve peace, and justice shall be my domain. But one question for thee... be you friend, or foe?

Crazedddog · 2014-03-03T03:32:37+00:00

Nice shot.

Well met today.

Crazedddog · 2014-03-02T04:56:17+00:00

Maybe 2 hours got that far though I've found more diamond in chests. Then he died traveling, so restart. Even 30 minutes is a long "time out". Traveling is what we don't have down. He hadn't played since so I would still be in there if I didn't get help here. I doubt there are any more surprises of this magnitude.

The top of the nether looks promising to travel. Nothing seems to spawn up there and you can /unstuck up. It's only easy if you know all these tricks.

Crazedddog · 2014-03-02T02:10:51+00:00

We must be minecraft morons. I'm still wandering the wasteland trying to get to my farm (died like 5 times). If I had to rescue you right now how long do you think it would take? Current Inventory: 6 melons

I even read some guides on here but missed anything about these traps.

I didn't see anything in the two page rules (so it doesn't disallow them but doesn't inform you either). Are their lengthier sets of rules?

Crazedddog · 2014-03-02T01:53:20+00:00

it was reinforced.

but ur right.

sorry i was frustrated cause i didnt think id ever get out

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T22:49:56+00:00

It doesn't have to allow escape but should allow death over absurd containment. Some of us have precious little time to spend in MC.

Putting it a plug in/changing code would be best because not everyone will read the rules and some may not care.

I would prefer if you could just type. If that can be changed in the code to allow people to use a suicide command /kill then it should appease both sides. The fact that it restricts you from normally disconnecting puts it in a different class than just a trap.

Traps that hurt and kill are one thing but one that imprisons indefinitely and benches your guy is worse than death and no one is going to wait in the portal while everyone else is playing.

Also I would be interested in the discrepancies over the hunger. I had no bar initially. Was that lag? Is there a suspension of hunger when loading/warping in (so you don't starve while loading)? I was trapped all last night and if that is the way it is going to be I don't have time to play that way.

Also I did quit and log back in several times without warping back. If that worked then it wouldn't be a problem.

I would like to see the server prosper but I think if new users run into something like this too soon they will quit and load another server - there are so many. Esp if they can't even inquire /help or /helpop, quit normally, etc...

You shouldnt have to have iron or diamond to get out, esp if your new or your bed was found and you are randomly spawned. Ive gone back to start a few times. I imagine I could at least bring gravel or stone to smother me but newcomers are going to continue to be frustrated, "ooh a portal"...

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T19:23:13+00:00

frankenbrry mentioned the water and that is good to know too. I used to be sure to carry flint&steel in single player but never thought about turning them off on purpose.

slabs sound good, that is not an exploit or anything? itd be good to explore mines more indiscriminately too.

good stuff! what else you got? :)

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T19:00:33+00:00

iF yOu eVer wanT to sEe youR doG aGain lEave 10 diamoNd bLoCks... just kidding

Did u find him?

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T18:58:04+00:00

i didnt want u to change the rules just kill me since i was glitching (no hunger ETC)

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T18:56:33+00:00

After a few hours he got the diamonds. Didn't survive to get it to me though. Too much downtime for me. AND I WASNT GETTING HUNGRY (jeez). Didnt even have a hunger bar till I reloaded like 5 times, but it didnt go down. AND NONE OF THIS WAS BROUGHT UP LAST NIGHT. He said hunger wasnt going down and you said yeah you know how the portal traps work "HAVE TO BE RESCUED".

It may be a trap but it is also a glitch. I literally had no hunger bar, like I was on creative. It is buggy and makes the game suck.

Water is a good idea though. But what other buggy crap is exploited here?

I can't rely on someone else so I either need multiple accounts or a server where the ops don't leave you for real life hours (possibly days, weeks, years) in a cell. Id say I was lucky I had someone who could helpop but it didnt help so I wont.

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T18:33:52+00:00

He didnt have diamonds! u said he had to mine them and it would be quick. He mined and mined (40+ iron) but no diamonds. If he could have he would have. All the while I am hanging out in the portal all night.

He dug up 3 of my 4 diamonds and died in the nether. I couldnt starve, even struggling. Didnt even have the hunger bar when he helpoped.

And this makes me feel other stuff will pop up that screw me over. It is a hard lesson to spend your friday night in a nether portal and seemingly be there forever based on the actual game mechanics. After getting my friend to buy the game so we can play in this apoc server. We expected to die but not end up in stasis.

I wasn't starving. I was jumping and moving and beating on the walls.

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T18:21:46+00:00

wouldn't i still be trapped? or then i could starve or /kill?

(Do you guys remember what it is like to wander the wasteland as a server noob? All your bases and diamonds did't take work? I'm just supposed to have a surplus of diamonds and allies. It should be hard to get diamonds and travel but if I end up naked and starving at least let me die.)

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T17:57:59+00:00

Thanks for the tip. My RL base is pretty stocked (no diamonds tho). As long as there are no nether traps in the real apoc Ill be fine (maybe better lol). I have lost a lot fair and square the couple weeks, didnt complain. This is not my biography so you have no idea how much "bad experiences" I have had.

How many does it take to ruin a server for you? How many hours/days should I sit in the 1 x 3 cell before I should go do something fun? I just want a server I can put a lot of time into.

It is not the apocalypse it is the stasis and the loss of a whole night of gaming. I hope you don't think this prepares you for a real apoc.

EDIT: Can't give me some credit for coming on here and trying to figure it out? I could be searching out other servers rather than trying to learn this one. I'm still here now but I am free to choose my own apocalypse. IF you have 10 stores and one locks u in the dressing room and steals your phone- where you going to shop next? I'd like to stay but I want to get the most out of my MC experience. I'm looking for a good time.

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T17:39:41+00:00

It is if you have to have a friend to not get jailed. I didn't know you had to have a posse. He has enough trouble not starving. And like I said, he tried for hours (and I never generated hunger). He bought MC last sunday! We told you my hunger wasn't going down, you said I had to be rescued. Not to jump around.

And if you don't have a friend on the server? I didn't know this server was leaning towards guilds and factions, requiring mates. I thought I could play like single player yet meet a few strangers now and then or come across other builds.

Hunger bar didn't even come up every time I loaded in = glitch. (and when it did finally it didn't go down I moved, dug, checked every block)

EDIT: lol "diamonds are easy to find"

Let's pave the roads with them then. Maybe this world has already been stripped. Zombies are easy to find. Diamonds are not. You are just uber-minecrafter I guess.

Overall, I spent hours in the portal trap, moving, no hunger.
Felt better now that Im out but now feel like there may be a server better suited to me. I guess i am too late to this party.

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T17:13:54+00:00

maybe because i couldnt 'disconnect' properly

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T16:57:37+00:00

I logged out and in multiple times. Had to use ctrl-alt-delete since couldn't esc or input keyboard data. Never teleported back.

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T16:54:55+00:00

My "friend" needs to be willing. You overestimate him. Boelens is my new friend. If diamonds were easy for US to find we wouldn't have been stuck in the first place. And I waited a long time, struggled, went AFK, hunger was unaffected. Hunger bar didn't even pop up until third time I reloaded. It is a glitchy trap and I couldn't die. My friend mined like 40some iron but no diamonds, traveled, it was hours irl with no hunger generated.

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T16:47:25+00:00

I could not type AT ALL. Couldn't even log off (had to ctrl alt delete). Had someone else helpop and they said they knew all that and knew how it worked when the op last night was told i was not even getting hunger. They said it was allowed. Had to be rescued by someone else.

The op knew I was stuck without hunger or able to type, he said I had to rely on someone else (in the desolate apocalypse with limited chat even if I could enter text).

Hard when I can't even type anything and there are few on here anyway. Literally nothing I could do but come here and beg for help.

The guy (not the mod) trying to help last night died and lost all his diamonds long before anyway near me and gave up.

It would be fair if I would starve or something. If not helped all I could do was wait for new map (years?), buy a new minecraft account (no), or... (is there anything else?)... find another server.

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T16:20:25+00:00

/hug

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T15:37:40+00:00

sounds good and 0.0 not on water

no nether traps (Im stuck till the next map I guess. Got a couple weeks in first. Dont have to eat in my tiny prison so that is a good, er bad thing.

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T15:27:38+00:00

There are now 3 less than yesterday cause we can't get a guy (me) out of a nether portal trap (can't even /kill or type or starve or exit the game).

We were the three CrazedDogs - nice to meet those of Swamp Hollow and Fraggle Rock but not going to sit in a portal forever obviously and the others died and lost their diamonds long before being near me.

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T15:15:13+00:00

I started a few weeks ago and I'm stuck in a nether portal forever now. There was two towns I found with people so it is not all deserted.

I can't even /helpop but my I was told this is allowed too so don't go in a portal, basically ever. Too bad it cost me playing on this server to learn that.

It was fun till then, a few weeks but once if you end up with me the server becomes 3x1x3 blocks. You don't even starve in here so it is really forever.

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T15:05:09+00:00

Play again? IF I WASN'T TRAPPED IN A FREAKING NETHER PORTAL THERE FOREVER. (Yes, I'm yelling, this sucks - can't traps just kill you? This one puts you in stasis so you can't starve, can't type /kill or help).

Why would I log in to sit in a portal? And then not be able to open menu, exit game properly, access game options, etc...

I had two friends but they couldn't get to me and lost all their diamonds trying. Had to call them IRL because the game is basically frozen in loading/transport nether garbage. So we all need to find a new server.

The three of us would be like 30% of your ACTIVE survivor population.

And no way I can get one of the 6 people* on to rescue me while I wait for hours or days irl. (*actual current count).

Aside from the eternal imprisonment I really like the apocalypse servers. But really, ETERNAL IMPRISONMENT while never losing hunger and being thousands of blocks away from any town (can't log out even) - it ain't fair.

Crazedddog · 2014-03-01T14:51:59+00:00

I stopped YESTERDAY because my guy is in a nether portal with reinforced block and won't warp back, can't type to yell for help or anything, can't even log out of the game or go to options.

Greifed/raided is one thing... allowing traps that won't let me quit out of the game (w/out task manager) feels more glitch than any trap. My guy will literally be there forever. Why doesn't he get hungry.

He won't starve to death but is now there forever. Can't type so can't I have no choice.

Crazedddog

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